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10-12-2012 08:07 PM
Moose5
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Originally Posted by Derp

Regardless, all cops are still human beings and no matter how much of an asshat they can be, when it comes down to it those guys that strap on their badge gun and attitude every morning and put their lives in harms way to protect unappreciative people like you. Either way, you need to stop with the whole pig references.

As far as i'm concerned your the pig sitting your fat arse on your couch. I don't see you jumping out of your seat to go get shot at, protect and serve the public. Until that day comes please keep your snide remarks to yourself.
I dot want to make this a "I hate cops" convo but from my area very few cops go in harms way. They play big shot and only give out parking tickets and summons to kids on the beach after dark. A lot of my dads friends are cops. I here they're stories. Very few of them have ever had to use their gun. Maybe it's just my area, but cops are more of a nuisance than heros
10-12-2012 12:36 PM
Dew
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Originally Posted by Moose5 View Post
I think jeeps are safer than the credit they get, but they are most certainly not the safest vehicles on the road. Maybe the word "durable" is a better adjective rather than "safe"
I think you hit the nail on the head. The jeep is "durable!"
10-12-2012 03:42 AM
Derp
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Originally Posted by XJ Knight
Im glad you might be one of the few good ones. To bad most are not like you. Manny earn the term I used every day they strap on there gun, badge, and attitude. Didn't mean to offend but I hate cops in general with a sick twisted passion as most are bad, while having a high apprecition for those that do it right. My favorite teacher in HS was a full time teacher/part time police officer. Amazing guy. Right now my interaction count is at 5 good cops to dozens of ones who are less then addiquate human beings

You keep fighting for the good ones and I'll keep hating every day that the bad ones give you guys a bad name.
Regardless, all cops are still human beings and no matter how much of an asshat they can be, when it comes down to it those guys that strap on their badge gun and attitude every morning and put their lives in harms way to protect unappreciative people like you. Either way, you need to stop with the whole pig references.

As far as i'm concerned your the pig sitting your fat arse on your couch. I don't see you jumping out of your seat to go get shot at, protect and serve the public. Until that day comes please keep your snide remarks to yourself.
10-12-2012 02:43 AM
Phil.Dye The only question I see that needs to be asked is do you still run without doors?
10-11-2012 11:41 PM
Border Dave
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Originally Posted by Nomadarmy View Post
...I have yet to see anything about the wrangler being safe...actually the safety ratings are for Sh!*
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/sugg...se-159967.html
10-11-2012 09:59 PM
Moose5
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Originally Posted by Dew

but not in an infiniti either...

didn't you just say the jeep was safe?
I think jeeps are safer than the credit they get, but they are most certainly not the safest vehicles on the road. Maybe the word "durable" is a better adjective rather than "safe"
10-11-2012 08:44 PM
Dew
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Originally Posted by Moose5 View Post
Maybe airbag wise it's bad, but I witnessed an accident in which the Infiniti was absolutely shattered and the jk only had a dent in the bumper. Both drivers were fine thank god. I think the overall structure of the jeep makes it safe, where the metal is positioned.
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Originally Posted by Moose5 View Post
If I had young kids, I would most certainly not put them in a jeep. That's when I would sacrifice and get "the armored car" (Volvo if you are still wondering)
but not in an infiniti either...

didn't you just say the jeep was safe?
10-11-2012 04:09 PM
Moose5
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Originally Posted by Nomadarmy

I agree with that looing at it you think it should be a pretty safe vehicle..... the problems that Jeeps have is the back seat passangers heads will be hitting the door metal....my daughter has a car/booster seat that is good up to 100 lbs and offers side and rear head protection only way I could still get it!!! thankfully she like sitting in it as she sits up higher and can see everything
If I had young kids, I would most certainly not put them in a jeep. That's when I would sacrifice and get "the armored car" (Volvo if you are still wondering)
10-11-2012 03:28 PM
Nomadarmy
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Originally Posted by Moose5 View Post
Maybe airbag wise it's bad, but I witnessed an accident in which the Infiniti was absolutely shattered and the jk only had a dent in the bumper. Both drivers were fine thank god. I think the overall structure of the jeep makes it safe, where the metal is positioned.
I agree with that looing at it you think it should be a pretty safe vehicle..... the problems that Jeeps have is the back seat passangers heads will be hitting the door metal....my daughter has a car/booster seat that is good up to 100 lbs and offers side and rear head protection only way I could still get it!!! thankfully she like sitting in it as she sits up higher and can see everything
10-11-2012 10:56 AM
PaulRevere1991
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Originally Posted by Nomadarmy View Post
...I have yet to see anything about the wrangler being safe...actually the safety ratings are for Sh!*
wranglers also score a 17/100 on the consumer reports scale. Guess they are the worst cars in existance.
10-11-2012 08:37 AM
Moose5
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Originally Posted by Nomadarmy

...I have yet to see anything about the wrangler being safe...actually the safety ratings are for Sh!*
Maybe airbag wise it's bad, but I witnessed an accident in which the Infiniti was absolutely shattered and the jk only had a dent in the bumper. Both drivers were fine thank god. I think the overall structure of the jeep makes it safe, where the metal is positioned.
10-10-2012 06:02 PM
Nomadarmy
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Originally Posted by CaelinT View Post
I can just see it now, some d*** outlawing jeeps because of this.. even though they prove to be safer then some other vehicles.

...I have yet to see anything about the wrangler being safe...actually the safety ratings are for Sh!*
10-09-2012 11:16 AM
97_wrangler
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Originally Posted by Rolly32 View Post
Show up to court in the doorless jeep





i second that!
10-09-2012 11:12 AM
Neal5280
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Originally Posted by Turbostixxx View Post
Been to both, Cali won me on beaches (only because I didn't go see Texas beaches) other than that, Texas wins between the 2, overall it's Alaska then Colorado THEN texas
Colorado is where it's at! I've been all over this wonderful nation and I have and will always call Colorado my home. 4 seasons to offer a different test to our beloved Jeeps.

I think that this has been blown out of proportion. LE is a job that offers little compensation but has a lot risk involved. There are "bad apples" in every type of job because there are "bad apples" in the human race. The officer was doing his job warned and then cited seems fair, I don't agree with the law. I have to follow rules at work that I don't agree with everyday. If it is more important that the law is corrected do something about it or move to somewhere where it doesn't exist.
10-09-2012 09:56 AM
G-LOVE Sorry to hear about the "No Doors" violation. You can always have fun with it, by making yourself a couple of clear doors from Plexi Glass...maybe that's pushin' it.

-Jim
10-09-2012 09:24 AM
s14sh3r
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Originally Posted by Lil Red JK View Post

So what kind of vehicle IS specified under this subchapter....That's my question!

Subchapter 175.61 specifies vehicles covered:
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175.61. Application of subchapter.
Equipment standards set forth in this subchapter apply to passenger cars and
light trucks driven on highways.
75 Pa.C.S. § § 102 defines passenger cars:
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"Passenger car." A motor vehicle, except a motorcycle, designed primarily for the transportation of persons and designed for carrying no more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and primarily used for the transportation of persons. The term includes motor vehicles which are designed with seats that may be readily removed and reinstalled, but does not include such vehicles if used primarily for the transportation of property.
67 PA Code § 175.2 defines light trucks:
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Light truck—A truck having a registered gross weight of 11,000 pounds or less.
10-09-2012 05:28 AM
Jsboening It's all about easy revenue.
10-09-2012 12:12 AM
Kewrock
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Originally Posted by Jsboening View Post
Why don't motorcycles need doors and seat belts? Wtf.
That always pissed me off. In NY I got a $150 seatbelt ticket years ago. I'm driving a car surrounded by steel and crumple zones and fully padded inside, yet it's mandatory that I wear a seatbelt. But two wheeled death machines are legal. No protection from anything, power ratio is probably 10x the average car, and all they need is a helmet(I guess so the family can have an open casket after scraping the driver off the pavement). I don't get it.

No offense intended to any bikers on the forum. But you got to admit, it's odd that the nanny government still allows them with the inherent danger they pose.
10-08-2012 11:15 PM
eagle223 I interpret it to mean that if a vehicle has no roof or side it does not need doors. And seeing as a wrangler has tops not roofs, I feel that you can drive with no doors on it. Especially since it was manufactured without a roof and is made to take the doors and top off and directions are given in the owners manual.
10-08-2012 10:07 PM
Lil Red JK Greenhead, I would sure like to know where that officer hangs out, I would like to avoid him as much as possible! I am from the Pittsburgh area.
10-08-2012 10:03 PM
Lil Red JK [QUOTE=A_Jeeper;2816479](f) Doors.A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with doors of a type used as original equipment. The doors shall open and close securely unless the vehicle has been manufactured or modified to the extent that there is no roof or side. Tailgates, except on vehicles where the tailgate gives access to the passenger compartment, may be replaced with wood planking, nets or other material that will prevent loss of load. Tailgates may be removed when optional equipment, for example a truck camper, is added.


So what kind of vehicle IS specified under this subchapter....That's my question!
09-21-2012 05:00 PM
AZJ33PN
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Originally Posted by BigGreenMachine

Wow! Fender flares can exceed three inches? Doesn't say they are required though. I'm never moving to PA.
I got pulled over for tires exceeding the flare by 1/4" here in PA. $220ish fine, so I fought it. Got it dropped, thank god. Glad I'm getting my Arizona plates soon!
09-21-2012 04:48 PM
BigGreenMachine
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Originally Posted by greenhead17

Section F
Wow! Fender flares can exceed three inches? Doesn't say they are required though. I'm never moving to PA.
09-21-2012 04:04 PM
A_Jeeper (f) Doors. A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with doors of a type used as original equipment. The doors shall open and close securely unless the vehicle has been manufactured or modified to the extent that there is no roof or side. Tailgates, except on vehicles where the tailgate gives access to the passenger compartment, may be replaced with wood planking, nets or other material that will prevent loss of load. Tailgates may be removed when optional equipment, for example a truck camper, is added.


The first sentence states you must have doors and they must be OEM type. The second sentence doesn't apply to Wranglers since they are manufactured WITHOUT roofs. Hardtops and softops are not ROOFS. You still have to have doors but they don't have to open or stay shut. How f'ed up is that?

I kept reading this trying to make the second sentence negate the first on a Wrangler but my mind has wasted away from years of working in parts and I just can't do it.
09-21-2012 12:17 AM
Dew
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Originally Posted by DeepSouthJeeper View Post
My vote for best state goes to Louisiana we just have one..tiny problem.


Tell me about it, in Louisiana, they call mosquitos the State Bird!

California was once a great state. Now its just a shadow of its former self.
edit: case in point, sigh...
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f55/ab1...ad-188379.html
09-20-2012 11:33 PM
sp33dfr33k Texas over Cali... Ca. has some very skewed ideas regarding gun laws... Louisiana was nice too... But Alaska, really, too damn cold for my butt, It's freakin' gorgeous though !
09-20-2012 11:18 PM
DeepSouthJeeper
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Originally Posted by JKRookie

Oh no...no nope no no no no....I don't do bugs of unusual sizes..nope nope nope lol
I tried to go fishing the other day, then they swarmed. Almost stayed, but they finally ran me off. Oh well, decided to go wheeling instead, only normal sized mosquitoes on the other side of the property
09-20-2012 11:13 PM
JKRookie
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Originally Posted by DeepSouthJeeper

Haha oh I'm sure. It's not TOO bad on the cities. But you try to go near the woods and nothing can save you, they get so big and just laugh at our puny bug spray.. Some are almost the size of small horse flies.
Oh no...no nope no no no no....I don't do bugs of unusual sizes..nope nope nope lol
09-20-2012 11:05 PM
DeepSouthJeeper
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Originally Posted by JKRookie

Lmao!! Texas also that small, minor problem lol
Haha oh I'm sure. It's not TOO bad on the cities. But you try to go near the woods and nothing can save you, they get so big and just laugh at our puny bug spray.. Some are almost the size of small horse flies.
09-20-2012 11:01 PM
JKRookie
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Originally Posted by DeepSouthJeeper
My vote for best state goes to Louisiana we just have one..tiny problem.
Lmao!! Texas also that small, minor problem lol
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