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02-20-2014 11:08 AM
bhgant Picked up a new 2014 Unlimited Sport. The dealer had put the black wheels and BFGs on it which I really liked. It's an automatic with 3.73. I don't plan on going crazy with it but hopefully do a small lift, 35" tires/wheels, bumpers, etc., once these wear down. I smile every time I get in it! Pics to come.
02-20-2014 09:57 AM
jim9251 bhgant congrats on your license! What kind of Jeep and of course pics are mandatory! Have fun.
02-20-2014 09:23 AM
bhgant I am a relatively new Ham (Tech) and just bought my first Jeep about a week ago. Thankful for this forum as there is a wealth of information! Following the Ham threads as I will be installing my Icom 880H and Larsen antenna soon that I pulled out of my old truck. Looking forward to getting back on the air and hopefully one day figure out DStar.
02-18-2014 06:38 AM
W5KVV Hello Kalvin from five land! Nice radio. I have 2 of the 710's, both running Green Light Labs GPS 710.

Great radios. Enjoy your Jeep.
02-18-2014 12:44 AM
Kalvin Hi just wanted to introduce myself. KD0WSK here name is Kalvin. New HAM and new jeep owner, I have a Kenwood D710 and an AvMap Geosat 6 with APRS

73's
02-15-2014 04:27 PM
PapaZed Hi,
K8PZ here. Long time ham but new to jeeps. Another month and I should have a Jeep to start playing with. First mod will probably install a 2M/70cM radio. I'm curious to find out how much bonding it's going to take to make the Jeep a somewhat decent HF platform. I can always make 10 meters work, but if I don't get the Jeep soon, I'll have to wait another 11 or so years to talk to anyone on 10. Ha!
My screen name comes from my call, but you hams already know that...

Steve ..
12-19-2013 10:20 AM
sparky KK6HWC, for close in NAVIS works. They usually use 80M, with a dipole. At least it does not have to be high. 40 might work, again with a low antenna.

We've used it for field day, but I've never watched them do it. (My main job is on the antenna erection crew.)
12-18-2013 12:48 PM
jim9251 To KK6HWC, don't forget 146.520 simplex. You could install an HF rig, like a Yaesu FT857 or Icom 7000, and carry a 40 meter dipole and coax with you. In an emergency, throw the dipole up as high as you can get it and transmit away. Or one of those Buddipoles.
12-18-2013 12:40 PM
New Jeep
Looking for solutions beyond repeaters

KK6HWC here. I am trying to figure out how best to communicate when I am in the boonies. That is what the Jeep is for, but as you get into uninhabited areas the UHF and VHF repeaters seems to be few and far between. An example would be Death Valley where the nearest repeaters are in Trona, Ridgecrest and Bishop. Way further than you are going to reach with VHF and UHF gear. On top of that the land in that area is far from flat. Rarely will you have an emergency on top of a mountain. So the solution seems to be HF. I am looking to see what solutions others have come up with. You want to reach someone within a couple hundred miles typically. Someone in New York is not going to be as much help as someone in Bishop or Ridgecrest. Is the best solution NVIS to bounce off the atmosphere and hit the surrounding area? Looking for any experience that others might have.
12-16-2013 11:17 AM
sparky
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Originally Posted by nectoxicdragon View Post
What are you running for tires, exhaust, intake, and for that matter what type of rig? All things that make major differences with the noise levels in your jeep. the average high end ham rig has an audio output of less than a half watt. feeding an undersized speaker with very little dynamic range limits that output even more. Commenting just to see your words in print is an even bigger limitation.
AT tires, stock exhaust & intake, soft top all year long. Using a Yeasu FT-8100 to an MFJ speaker that sits in front of the shifter. It works quite well with plenty of volume even at highway speeds. I can hear it above the wind and road noise.

If you feel the need for an amplified speaker, go for it. For the average user, it's not needed.
12-14-2013 05:34 PM
Jerry Bransford Just a comment about one of the members being worried about posting our callsigns here. I don't see any difference in doing that vs. broadcasting them on the air every ten minutes as required by the FCC. Not to mention there are websites that post maps of where hams live. I looked at one of those maps once & saw every ham call sign within 20 miles of my home.

And while I have a nice HF rig at home and a 2m in my Jeep, I don't see me ever wanting to also install an HF into my Jeep Wrangler. The antenna requirements for an HF rig in a Jeep are demanding enough that I'll just stay with my 2m. Not to mention I enjoy HF for DXing which I'd rather do from the comfort of my den than from the driver's seat of my Wrangler.

N6TAY
12-14-2013 03:56 PM
HZ1YR
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Originally Posted by nectoxicdragon View Post
If you do a quick study of radiation patterns, you will find that the majority of radiation power from an antenna comes from closest to the feed point, when using a tuner, while the actual impedance is spread out across the entire length of the antenna, when using a tuned antenna such as the screwdriver, in your Jeeps pic. Another consideration, is due to the terrain we traverse as compared to that which you do, we subject our jeeps to substantially more hard jarring suspension movement, which causes massive antenna movement, and as such results in the antennas beating against the vehicles body. So as you can see its basically a matter of two things, first a more effective radiation pattern, and second the longevity of the antenna itself. The lifespan alone is why you don't often see screwdrivers on Jeeps here, the short wheel bases and type of terrain we have puts a substantial amount of strain on the NMO mount and eventually fractures it on the antenna itself. On longer vehicles where there is less rocking they are much more common. If Yaesu and Tarheel would come up with a physical mount with a separate RF connection, they would sell many more antennas to people with jeeps, Especially Yaesu, since the 857D will auto tune their antenna, and is an ideal rig for in a jeep.

73 and good DX!
I totally agree with you. Since 9K2MB's jeep was not built for rock crawling, as far as I can tell, he found such setup useful.
I personally haven't decided on an HF setup yet especially after reading your words, I'm reconsidering his.
12-14-2013 11:47 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by HZ1YR View Post
Hi Everyone,

HZ1YR here.


I noticed not much use bumper mounts for HF although mostly are having steel bumpers, may I ask you why aren't you using that kind of setup?

Personally, I'm thinking of having a setup like 9K2MB's


Greetings from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia de HZ1YR

73
If you do a quick study of radiation patterns, you will find that the majority of radiation power from an antenna comes from closest to the feed point, when using a tuner, while the actual impedance is spread out across the entire length of the antenna, when using a tuned antenna such as the screwdriver, in your Jeeps pic. Another consideration, is due to the terrain we traverse as compared to that which you do, we subject our jeeps to substantially more hard jarring suspension movement, which causes massive antenna movement, and as such results in the antennas beating against the vehicles body. So as you can see its basically a matter of two things, first a more effective radiation pattern, and second the longevity of the antenna itself. The lifespan alone is why you don't often see screwdrivers on Jeeps here, the short wheel bases and type of terrain we have puts a substantial amount of strain on the NMO mount and eventually fractures it on the antenna itself. On longer vehicles where there is less rocking they are much more common. If Yaesu and Tarheel would come up with a physical mount with a separate RF connection, they would sell many more antennas to people with jeeps, Especially Yaesu, since the 857D will auto tune their antenna, and is an ideal rig for in a jeep.

73 and good DX!
12-14-2013 11:21 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by sparky View Post
I think that is overkill. While Jeeps are noisy a standard unpowered external speaker works fine.

I have mine in the coin bin in front of the shifter. Plenty of volume even on the highway.
What are you running for tires, exhaust, intake, and for that matter what type of rig? All things that make major differences with the noise levels in your jeep. the average high end ham rig has an audio output of less than a half watt. feeding an undersized speaker with very little dynamic range limits that output even more. Commenting just to see your words in print is an even bigger limitation.
12-14-2013 11:10 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by macaw1us View Post
I just read this entire thread because I'm working on a HAM Ticket.
Boy, this thread sure died quick once you started posting..what a shame !?

To everyone else "73's"
Don't bother getting a ham license, you fit in better with the chicken banders, you prefer ignorance over being enlightened.
12-09-2013 08:24 PM
mt miner
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Originally Posted by Joe Dirt View Post
Scott,
I installed the Kenwood 2M in my JK today, with the exception of the antenna. I'm hoping to make it to the HRO store on Monday. I want to see what I'm buying. The internet makes it hard to size up antennas.
I mounted a Larsen nmo 150 with a terraflex tail light mount and it performs very well..had to customize the hole in the terraflex mount a little and make it bigger though. I like the nmo 150 because the long skinny whip is very flexible when dragging it through tree branches..
I posted pictures on my garage page.
12-09-2013 07:21 AM
gfiber For my 2004 Jeep Wrangler I am ordering a 1/2 wave Larsen NMO-150CHW. The all black version NMO-BHW is $20.00 more. I have a Terraflex mount I installed a Breedlove NMO Drop in mount #028 into by opening the hole to 5/8 inch in the mount. The current 2 Meter rig is a resurrected Icom IC-2000H I repaired the final in.

Gary K8IZ
12-08-2013 07:02 AM
wyotraveler
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Originally Posted by Joe Dirt View Post
Scott,
I installed the Kenwood 2M in my JK today, with the exception of the antenna. I'm hoping to make it to the HRO store on Monday. I want to see what I'm buying. The internet makes it hard to size up antennas.
You may want to look at NGP Verticals.

Congrats on license
73s, AC6CV
12-08-2013 02:11 AM
Joe Dirt Scott,
I installed the Kenwood 2M in my JK today, with the exception of the antenna. I'm hoping to make it to the HRO store on Monday. I want to see what I'm buying. The internet makes it hard to size up antennas.
12-06-2013 06:36 PM
Sccafire
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Originally Posted by Joe Dirt View Post
Hi guys. Im KK6CXJ. Im new to ham & putting a 2 M in my JK this weekend
Did you figure out an antenna?
12-06-2013 12:53 PM
Joe Dirt Hi guys. Im KK6CXJ. Im new to ham & putting a 2 M in my JK this weekend
11-25-2013 12:07 PM
W5KVV
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Originally Posted by macaw1us View Post
I just read this entire thread because I'm working on a HAM Ticket.
Boy, this thread sure died quick once you started posting..what a shame !?

To everyone else "73's"
Paranoia is a clinical illness.

Good luck on getting your ticket. Remember, study, don't just memorize the answers. It's a fun hobby. You'll enjoy it.
11-25-2013 11:12 AM
macaw1us
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Originally Posted by nectoxicdragon View Post
OMs & YLs/XYLs Just a word of caution. I would refrain from posting calls on the site. Remember, this isn't a secure net. One of our local repeater clubs had a number of it's members rigs "borrowed" without permission, recently. The only common link is the use of the repeater as the radios were stolen out of their mobiles, from wide spread locations, across 3 counties. When you post a call on the web you are literally giving name and qth via the fcc database... I'd advise only giving the call In private msg After confirming the person you are having the qso with is trustworthy. The airwaves are literally much more secure... they don't retain a copy of the qso indefinetly... 73 N9###
I just read this entire thread because I'm working on a HAM Ticket.
Boy, this thread sure died quick once you started posting..what a shame !?

To everyone else "73's"
10-23-2013 12:05 PM
sparky
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Originally Posted by nectoxicdragon View Post
I posted what I use in reference to the post about other speakers. The more complex the rig the less room in it for a good speaker. And in a jeep the ambient sound just makes it worse, I started with a heavy diecast enclosure mounted two way Stereo speaker and made a power amp with a small equalizer for it designed to match the speaker response and mounted that in the speaker, then mounted the speaker at the windshield tiedown footman loop. the volume is controlled by the radio just like normal. I hsve never had a radio that would work without an external speaker in any of my jeeps except my Grand Cherokees.
I think that is overkill. While Jeeps are noisy a standard unpowered external speaker works fine.

I have mine in the coin bin in front of the shifter. Plenty of volume even on the highway.
10-23-2013 02:54 AM
HZ1YR Hi Everyone,

HZ1YR here.

I'm new to Jeeps and still didn't get my 2013 JKUR yet, hopefully in a couple of weeks.
Almost no one uses CB here but a lot of off-roaders and hunters use VHF rigs (Mostly are non-licenses) which is illegal. Yet, amateur radio operators here are mainly on HF bands. Unfortunately UHF got banned two years ago but we surely hope they re-allow it one day.

I noticed not much use bumper mounts for HF although mostly are having steel bumpers, may I ask you why aren't you using that kind of setup?

Personally, I'm thinking of having a setup like 9K2MB's


Greetings from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia de HZ1YR

73
10-23-2013 02:00 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
For anyone using an yeasu 857d what are you using for ans external speaker? As soon as I start to move I can no longer hear or understand mine. My old radio gave me no problem.
I posted what I use in reference to the post about other speakers. The more complex the rig the less room in it for a good speaker. And in a jeep the ambient sound just makes it worse, I started with a heavy diecast enclosure mounted two way Stereo speaker and made a power amp with a small equalizer for it designed to match the speaker response and mounted that in the speaker, then mounted the speaker at the windshield tiedown footman loop. the volume is controlled by the radio just like normal. I hsve never had a radio that would work without an external speaker in any of my jeeps except my Grand Cherokees.
10-23-2013 01:51 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by sparky View Post
I use an MFJ-281, not on an 857, dual-band FM rig. Does not matter, you need something front and center.

Good selection here. Amateur Radio Speakers Mobile Speaker
For in a jeep there isn't a single mobile ham rig made that has a speaker that will be up to the job at all times. Being a ham, building an audio power amp is a non issue. The trick is finding a diecast housed two way Stereo speaker to mount above the rearview mirror by the footman loop for the windshield. using a couple Op-amps to tailor the audio, an LPOT to balance the output of the radios audio into the op-amp eq you just put together, feeding a simple FET amp, all of which can be put in the speaker, which can be used as the heatsink all that's left is adding some fiberglass insulation into the speaker to make the enclosure acoustically larger. Did this for my Yaesu 857D, louder and clearer than ANY speaker on the market
It is great to be an engineer...
10-23-2013 01:37 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by gfiber View Post
Gary Fiber K8IZ New to me 2004 Wrangler so maybe be installing a VHF rig. I have another vehicle 2009 Tacoma Double Cab which I have a full mobile installation. I can operate 80 through 1.2 including 900 MHz in that vehicle. If you have Icom Questions ask as I may know worked at Icom America from 1989 until 2001 and did some shows for then in the years after I left. Been a Ham for 38 years now.
Can you answer this one, Who was the IDIOT who named the IC-7000? when there was already a 7000 in the lineup? The one question that has plagued IC-7000 owners from day one...
10-23-2013 01:25 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by k2epm View Post
Howdid you rout the coax inside the vehicle?
Coax routing in a Jeep can be easy or can be hard, if you want it to be either one. There are grommets for wiring on both sides of the firewall under the dash. Commercial coax assemblies are typically of a design that you can unscrew the shell and collar from an insert that has the actual cable connected to it that is a minimal amount larger than the actual diameter of the cable itself. This makes it easy to push through the grommet (even if you need to put a cut in it and silicon it after feeding the cable through) when routed just screw it back together, make sure it is tight and you are good to go. I run it along the top side of the dash above the air ducts using up as much length as possible so there is no coiling and everything is as straight as possible to the radio doubling back with slow U shaped loops and no O loops to prevent creating impedance transformers, As all the dash panels are just trim covers in all jeeps this is an easy since the CJ7 this is an easy job the true metal dashed Jeeps are a bit more of a challenge but not difficult. One other thing, Use wire ties liberally on any cables being run under the hood. Especially to anything mounted to the hood. This is to ensure long life of the cables, keep them in a decent slope but at the same time don't let them sag...
10-23-2013 01:06 AM
nectoxicdragon
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Originally Posted by W5KVV View Post
New member here, W5KVV QTH McAlester, OK. EM24cv.


I encourage anyone interested in Amateur Radio to study, not just memorize the practice tests & get on the air. I've made countless friends all over the world in less than 3 years with radio.

As for posting your call on the net, it's already there. All over the internet. All they have to do is look. I'd like to meet the scumbag that tries to steal one of my mobile rigs. He better have a complete assortment of tools & 6 hours to work at getting it out of the truck because that's how long it's gonna take.

73
W5KVV
Matt
Matt, your call may be all over, but until you associate it with what you drive, what equipment ins in your rig and other tidbits of information the malcontents love, you are relatively safe. as for removing equipment, they only need a pair of dykes and two prybars, they don't care about how much damage they do to the vehicle when they remove your radios, even a full on in dash mounting can be removed in a few minutes just by destroying the dashboard. This is why many insurance companies have riders excluding aftermarket stereo and communications equipment from coverage. as well as consequential damages from the theft of it.
Also it is just as interesting that matt can mean Herbert A James... So when you don't post an honest call sign it doesn't mean a thing other than the fact that you are full of Bullshit.
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