|Yesterday 05:47 PM|
|Yesterday 05:06 PM|
This thread may be getting a little old, but it was of great value to me as it ended my 6 month study and search of the ideal front bumper. No, I donít think the Rampage full width is the perfect bumper (it doesnít have Hi-Lift jack points, for instance), but it is as close to perfect for me as Iím going to find for my 2013.
I ordered mine from Morris 4x4 on this Monday and it arrived by Fed Ex two days later on Wed! Today I installed it. I must say that I am extremely satisfied with this bumper. Iíll clear up right away that Iím a Jeep newbie and donít have a lot of Jeep knowledge, so Iíll openly admit some stupid errors I made that may help someone else. Despite my satisfaction with this bumper, here are some problems I had.
My shipping box wasnít damaged and the bumper itself was well wrapped inside the box. There were no scratches on the bumper, but the sharp ends both had a small area on the very tips which had the powder coat removed. The base coat or primer remains. I already anticipated something like this so I previously bought some spray bedliner and Iíll just dab some on the ends after degreasing them. This damage is very small and Iím not surprised those points would to lose the paint in shipment. Iím pretty particular about such things and I donít think itís an issue.
For anyone doing this work with just a basic socket set, youíre going to be challenged. I didnít have an air ratchet (actually, I couldnít find mine) which would have helped a lot. It turns out I needed a variety of extensions and even a swivel headed ratchet that had a joint in the handle (harbor freight). Some of those places are tight, especially between the fog lamp and the vacuum pump. A standard 18mm socket worked for removal but installation required a deep 18mm. I did damage one fog lamp mount a little by not first removing the driver side lamp as I tried to loosen one bumper mounting nut. Then I did more damage to that lamp by not realizing the lamps are removed by squeezing the base (told you I was going to admit my stupidity).
More damage was done as I tried to remove the plastic piece behind the original bumper. I knew the fasteners were plastic, but no amount of care avoided stripping the plastic screw heads. I think if I had lifted up on the plastic piece as I very gently turned the screw it may have worked. As it was, I had to use a Dremel with a cutting wheel to cut a slot into the ruined plastic screw head and then use a flat screwdriver to remove it. The other was so damaged I cut and ripped it out. Oh, and I advise getting an auto upholstery or plastic fastener removal tool to help remove the wiring loom from the original bumper.
The bumper came with instructions about as complete as ďtake your old one off and put this one onĒ. But honestly, installation really was so straightforward that you donít need much instruction. I easily put the new one on without anyoneís help by laying the bumper on a plastic bin about the right height, then added a 2x6 board on top of the bin to get it even closer to the right height. I just slightly lifted one end to push a stud in place, added a nut to hold it, then did the other end. The only real complaint I have is that the supplied fog lamp hardware (apparently stainless) is not adequate for the factory fog lamps. The tiny washers they provide are too small to avoid having the mounting bolt pull through the mounting tab. Adding another larger washer solved the problem, but since I didnít have stainless washers around the house and I live to far from town, I had to use plain steal.
I didnít weigh the bumper, but the shipping paper from Fed Ex says the package was 70 pounds, which includes the heavy ľ inch winch plate. I would say the box felt about that heavy too. To me, I donít think thatís necessarily a heavy bumper. Iíve heard of others going 140 and even 160 pounds. Nonetheless, I can detect a small difference in how the Jeep rides, but itís pretty insignificant. Now I AM concerned about adding the weight of a winch on top of this, which was my plan. I wanted steel cable since I almost always encounter lots of mud and water, and some internet sites say synthetic line doesnít only require careful washing, but also must be dried , but I still may go synthetic to save weight.
I know this was long winded, but I would have liked to have known some of the above info before I started.
|Yesterday 04:18 PM|
|Yesterday 03:32 PM|
So this bumper doesnt require any pump relocation correct? Didnt see any mention of it needing to be done but wanted to ask as a double check.
|10-27-2013 11:41 AM|
|10-26-2013 07:59 PM|
|MFaust||Oh well. No way to short cut it. I had to disassemble the winch from the winch plate to get that one bolt on. Lesson learned.|
|10-26-2013 06:35 PM|
|MFaust||Anybody have any tips on how to get that screw in the back of the winch plate on with the winch in the way? Thanks in advance.|
|10-20-2013 09:20 AM|
Helps a little...I guess
(And yes, that plate is zip tied on lol!)
|10-19-2013 08:03 PM|
|10-18-2013 10:50 PM|
|10-16-2013 12:24 PM|
|10-15-2013 10:59 PM|
I just saw this thread, read the OP's question and skipped to the end, so I apologize if this has already been covered.
I had the same problem after installing my Mass Art and I didn't like the gap in between the bumper and the grill. Instead of flipping the stock mud catcher around like several other posters have I actually cut notches in the leading edge of the stock mud catcher with a jig saw and re-installed it that way.
|10-15-2013 03:01 PM|
|MFaust||I finally got my Engo Winch E10000 yesterday which I want to install this weekend. My winch plate on my rampage bumper is countersunk on the bottom (correct side). I saw a couple of links on here in regards to the flat head bolts that I could use but was still unclear. Can anyone kindly clue me in on the exact bolt that they used to fit the winch to the winch plate? Thanks again in advance.|
|10-14-2013 10:02 PM|
So true people think you will lose travel or get hung up with a big bumper , but the way the bumper is made it does not have a issue
Big rock looks close in the picture but I had plenty of room
|10-14-2013 01:36 PM|
Otherwise- no drilling as mentioned. Easy install. Keep the small plastic trim piece off your stock bumper for use as a filler. (see Page # 1 or #2).
I really love this bumper- so many people shrug off mid-width bumpers for fear of losing articulation or clearance. Bullcrap. And its held up extremely well- I've used it to clear brush and move trees. LOL.
|10-14-2013 11:42 AM|
|10-14-2013 10:39 AM|
|jeepergirl12||Got my bumper installed. Couldn't be happier with it. So far I've got 1/4" height loss on my front springs. Going to drive around a while and see if I get more compression.|
|10-06-2013 04:49 PM|
It was a direct, bolt-on installation for me.
There have been one or two people in this thread that had to grind/flatten the front edges of their frame but that takes like ten minutes with a grinder.
|10-06-2013 09:17 AM|
Bolt on no alterations to your Jeep, sweet.
|10-06-2013 08:22 AM|
|Knuckles65||I didn't have to drill anything to get my bumper on. It was a direct fit.|
|10-06-2013 07:19 AM|
|ADee1||I like it a lot, read reviews, some say there's drilling etc to get it on others say no. Is it a direct replacement, requiring no drilling etc. or not? Thanks.|
|10-05-2013 09:43 PM|
|Damooch||If you have a hawse fairlead on your winch I used the rocdog fabrications license plate holder. It works really well. They also make it for the roller fairlead|
|10-05-2013 04:55 PM|
|Knuckles65||No need to drill if you are going to have a winch with a fairlead... Rugged Ridge Roller Fairlead License Plate Mounting Bracket - 11238.05|
|10-05-2013 01:37 PM|
|10-05-2013 07:52 AM|
The skid is on the heavy side when laying on your back and working from under the Jeep. A second pair of hands would make it much easier as you line things up.
I installed this skid within two weeks of buying my Jeep. I couldn't stand the plastic "air dam" as it offers NO protection - especially on a Rubicon where the electronic sway bar disconnect is right there out front. Not knowing what bumper I was going to wind up with, this was the only skid I was able to find that didn't attach to a bumper.
I have no reservations of recommending this skid to anyone looking for better protection.
|10-04-2013 11:18 PM|
|10-04-2013 08:21 PM|
|10-04-2013 08:21 PM|
You can just about see it in this pic. It does not mount to the bumper.
|10-04-2013 03:04 PM|
|jeepergirl12||Just got mine in today in textured black. Thanks sooo much for all the info and pics on the thread. Made the decision easy. Very excited to get this installed on my 2012 unlimited.|
|09-22-2013 01:30 AM|
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