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12-06-2008 08:19 PM
4point I find it amazing that someone would think the economy and trouble over seas would hinder congress and the president from addressing other issues. They (congress)do their dirtiest work when the people (citizens) are distracted by these issues.
12-06-2008 07:21 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by txjustin View Post
If you truly believe this you are nuts. Also, I find it hard to believe that Obama is gonna come into the White House and worry about gun control/bans when the economy is the way it is and the upcoming troop buildup in Afghanistan and withdrawal from Iraq. Now, if he makes a 2nd term...maybe so.
If you truly believe Obama won't do everything he can to restrict guns you're the one that's nuts.
He's made no secret of his anti gun positions.
It takes little time or effort for him to sign executive orders or legislation passed by a majority gun grabber controlled congress.
12-06-2008 07:09 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by stevens243 View Post
Yeah, the story is from yesterday. I can't really decide why. This "happened" early this year. Maybe it's just the fact that the rule that has been in force since February are now "final"?
No, this "happened" yesterday. Read the news release. They began working on the issue back in February but it wasn't approved until now.
12-06-2008 07:04 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by jupiterboy View Post
What was the regulation previously? Could you carry in a national park with an out-of-state permit?
No, you couldn't carry in national parks at all.
12-06-2008 05:47 PM
jpdocdave i agree, i'm in his lovely home state, and everytime the word gun came up in anything, its time for more gun control, and if there were more bans on guns this wouldn't have happened. i get to listen to it every day on the news.
12-06-2008 05:43 PM
2much
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Originally Posted by txjustin View Post
If you truly believe this you are nuts. Also, I find it hard to believe that Obama is gonna come into the White House and worry about gun control/bans when the economy is the way it is and the upcoming troop buildup in Afghanistan and withdrawal from Iraq. Now, if he makes a 2nd term...maybe so.
I beleive that Obama is as liberal as they come. Liberals have an agenda. He will try to enact that agenda on all fronts.
The economy is a huge problem, but to think that the President of The United States is only going to do one thing at a time when in office is a little out there.
12-06-2008 11:50 AM
05GT-O.C.D. I love how when the anti-gun crowd talks about "common-sense gun laws" they mean not allowing people to have guns.
12-06-2008 09:40 AM
stevens243
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Originally Posted by amy View Post
How is this old news? It was just released on Friday, Dec. 5, 2008. That was yesterday.
Yeah, the story is from yesterday. I can't really decide why. This "happened" early this year. Maybe it's just the fact that the rule that has been in force since February are now "final"?
12-06-2008 09:29 AM
jupiterboy What was the regulation previously? Could you carry in a national park with an out-of-state permit?
12-06-2008 09:29 AM
txjustin
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Originally Posted by whiteyj View Post
Don't worry....It won't be that way for long. Our new president will see to it that his secret service contingent are the only ones with any weapons in the US very quickly.
If you truly believe this you are nuts. Also, I find it hard to believe that Obama is gonna come into the White House and worry about gun control/bans when the economy is the way it is and the upcoming troop buildup in Afghanistan and withdrawal from Iraq. Now, if he makes a 2nd term...maybe so.
12-06-2008 02:08 AM
amy
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Originally Posted by stevens243 View Post
Pretty old news to discuss here...
How is this old news? It was just released on Friday, Dec. 5, 2008. That was yesterday.
12-06-2008 01:34 AM
whiteyj Don't worry....It won't be that way for long. Our new president will see to it that his secret service contingent are the only ones with any weapons in the US very quickly.
12-06-2008 12:12 AM
stevens243 Pretty old news to discuss here...
12-05-2008 10:47 PM
skeeter
CCW in national parks

U.S. Department of the Interior - News Release - Interior Announces Final Firearms Policy Update

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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty today announced that the Department of the Interior has finalized updated regulations governing the possession of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located. The update has been submitted to the Federal Register for publication and is available to the public on U.S. Department of the Interior Home Page.
Existing regulations regarding the carrying of firearms remain otherwise unchanged, particularly limitations on poaching and target practice and prohibitions on carrying firearms in federal buildings.
"America was founded on the idea that the federal and state governments work together to serve the public and preserve our natural resources," Laverty said. "The Department's final regulation respects this tradition by allowing individuals to carry concealed firearms in federal park units and refuges to the extent that they could lawfully do so under state law. This is the same basic approach adopted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the United States Forest Service (USFS), both of which allow visitors to carry weapons consistent with applicable federal and state laws."
On February 22, 2008, Interior Secretary Kempthorne responded to letters from 51 Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, as well as from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee, urging him to update existing regulations that prohibit the carrying of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. In his response, the Secretary directed Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty "to develop and propose for public comment by April 30 Federal regulations that will update firearms policies on these lands to reflect existing Federal laws (such as those prohibiting weapons in Federal buildings) and the laws by which the host states govern transporting and carrying of firearms on their analogous public lands."
Changes in the final regulations from those originally proposed in April were developed as the result of public comments. In particular, comments expressed concern about the feasibility of implementing regulations which directly linked the carrying of concealed firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges to the ability of an individual to carry a concealed firearm on analogous state lands. The final regulations remove that potential logistical hurdle.
The existing regulations, as currently in effect, were adopted in 1981 for national wildlife refuges and in 1983 for national parks. Since that time many states have enacted new firearms policies. Currently, 48 states have passed legislation allowing for the lawful possession of concealed weapons.
"The Department believes that in managing parks and refuges we should, as appropriate, make every effort to give the greatest respect to the democratic judgments of State legislatures with respect to concealed firearms," said Laverty. "Federal agencies have a responsibility to recognize the expertise of the States in this area, and federal regulations should be developed and implemented in a manner that respects state prerogatives and authority."
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