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12-22-2008 06:44 AM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
My OE black roll bar covers and my brand-new Bestop fabric seats faded from the sun too. I hope you're not trying to say that new Bestop sport bar covers from Quadratec won't fade in the sun but the covers re-dyed black with the aerosol spray dye will.
No most items will obviously will fade. The point is the spray did not hold up well at all. The seats I sprayed were 18 years old. The spray did not hold up. Within one year they were noticeably faded and two years before they were right back to where they were. I would say that was not worth the effort.
12-20-2008 10:03 PM
KellyK
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Originally Posted by rrich View Post
I get suspicious when I see too much padding.
One day I was talking to a guy in a restaurant with a beautiful CJ he'd just bought that morning. It was on a trailer.
It was beautiful, nice paint, lots of chrome (obviously never been off road,) lots of "goodies." He paid a tall price for it too.

I leaned on the heavily padded cage - it moved! ???

The padding covered up the secret - the cage was PVC!

I don't know what happened when he took it back -.


Its for wheeling in the ball cage at mcdonalds....
12-20-2008 10:00 PM
rrich I get suspicious when I see too much padding.
One day I was talking to a guy in a restaurant with a beautiful CJ he'd just bought that morning. It was on a trailer.
It was beautiful, nice paint, lots of chrome (obviously never been off road,) lots of "goodies." He paid a tall price for it too.

I leaned on the heavily padded cage - it moved! ???

The padding covered up the secret - the cage was PVC!

I don't know what happened when he took it back -.
12-20-2008 09:59 PM
jdhallissey
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Originally Posted by JCS05Rubi View Post
Does anyone make pads for the newer (04/05+) thicker roll bars? I tore he top of my padding up a year or two ago and never did find a decent replacement that was less than $150 bucks. That was too much for me, some black electrical tape holds it together fine
You my good man sickin me to puking! Electrical tape? what were you thinking, we have the BLACK DUCK TAPE! Shame on you
12-20-2008 09:57 PM
4point
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Originally Posted by BLACKTOOTHGRIN View Post
I haven't seen "Real Tree" Camo Pads, but Quadratec does have some regular Camo Pads.
I tried to talk my MIL into making them for me, she's really talented in sewing things. She never brought up the issue again, so I figure she doesn't want to do it.
12-20-2008 09:48 PM
JCS05Rubi Does anyone make pads for the newer (04/05+) thicker roll bars? I tore he top of my padding up a year or two ago and never did find a decent replacement that was less than $150 bucks. That was too much for me, some black electrical tape holds it together fine
12-20-2008 06:16 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
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Originally Posted by 4point View Post
I want "Real Tree" type camo pads for my roll bar, does anyone make these?
I haven't seen "Real Tree" Camo Pads, but Quadratec does have some regular Camo Pads.
12-19-2008 11:32 AM
4point I want "Real Tree" type camo pads for my roll bar, does anyone make these?
12-19-2008 11:21 AM
Sb5551
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Originally Posted by MOz View Post
I took half of mine off - is that worse?
I think its only half as bad.
12-19-2008 10:08 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Neil F. View Post
Jerry,

The Duplicolor vinyl/fabric spray from the parts store going to hold up. I've used it before on seats in my Mustang. The top of the rear searts under the hatch were badly faded from the sun. I sprayed the seats and they did look good but within two years they were pretty faded.
My OE black roll bar covers and my brand-new Bestop fabric seats faded from the sun too. I hope you're not trying to say that new Bestop sport bar covers from Quadratec won't fade in the sun but the covers re-dyed black with the aerosol spray dye will.
12-19-2008 07:55 AM
MOz
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Originally Posted by Neil F. View Post
Jerry,

The Duplicolor vinyl/fabric spray from the parts store going to hold up. I've used it before on seats in my Mustang. The top of the rear searts under the hatch were badly faded from the sun. I sprayed the seats and they did look good but within two years they were pretty faded. My seat were sprayed the same color that they were. I'd say going from tan to black on the roll bars that are going to see direct sun, that they will fade fast. According to folks on other boards, the spray dye by SEM is supposed to be a much better product.

With that said, I did have some black Duplicolor spray around from another project and did hit my already black roll bar pads late this season. The seams were slightly faded and they do look better but I expect next summer they will be faded.
Anything that sets in the sun will fade. Paint, fabric...it's just a matter of time.
12-19-2008 07:51 AM
MOz
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Originally Posted by Sb5551 View Post
I took mine off. Is that bad?
I took half of mine off - is that worse?
12-19-2008 07:04 AM
Sb5551 I took mine off. Is that bad?
12-19-2008 06:01 AM
Neil F. Jerry,

The Duplicolor vinyl/fabric spray from the parts store going to hold up. I've used it before on seats in my Mustang. The top of the rear searts under the hatch were badly faded from the sun. I sprayed the seats and they did look good but within two years they were pretty faded. My seat were sprayed the same color that they were. I'd say going from tan to black on the roll bars that are going to see direct sun, that they will fade fast. According to folks on other boards, the spray dye by SEM is supposed to be a much better product.

With that said, I did have some black Duplicolor spray around from another project and did hit my already black roll bar pads late this season. The seams were slightly faded and they do look better but I expect next summer they will be faded.
12-18-2008 08:48 PM
whiteyj Jerry, You're splitting hairs....Aerosol dye is still a rattle can. Yes it is an option if you are willing to settle for the finish. A set of ten year old faded pads dyed up with aerosol cans or a new set. It's still about options. OP was for a "complete, good quality set". The Bestop set is just that.
12-18-2008 08:22 PM
Jerry Bransford Dying the fabric is exactly how the pads are made black from the factory and dying them black with an aerosol fabric dye is what is being suggested here. We're not talking about "rattle canning" them black with Rustoleum paint. $152 is what Quadratec is selling new pads for.
12-18-2008 08:16 PM
whiteyj
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Hmmm... let's see... $152 for new black sport bar covers or dye the covers black for $14 for two cans of aerosol fabric spray. Hmmm...
Well to each their own....Actually didn't cost the $106 is does today to replace the set, but much happier with the way they look.

Kind of like the folks on here that pay a shop to install their lifts rather than doing it themselves.

The beauty of the damn hobby is you have many choices to make. I much prefer the look of my new set of roll bar covers than something that has been rattle canned. However I did my own lift installation. Not to save a buck but so that if the day comes I bend or break something I know what goes where and how to fix it. It's all about how YOU wnat ot spend YOUR dollars.
12-18-2008 08:03 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by whiteyj View Post
or you can buy a new set of Bestop covers at Quadratec.
Hmmm... let's see... $152 for new black sport bar covers or dye the covers black for $14 for two cans of aerosol fabric spray. Hmmm...
12-18-2008 07:55 PM
activelydying
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Originally Posted by whiteyj View Post
or you can buy a new set of Bestop covers at Quadratec.

What!!!!

That's crazy talk

oh wait, I forgot you own a YJ. I guess crazy is already a given
12-18-2008 07:46 PM
whiteyj or you can buy a new set of Bestop covers at Quadratec.
12-18-2008 07:07 PM
activelydying
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Go buy a couple aerosol cans of fabric seat dye at your local autoparts store and go for it. Black is easy to get even.

That's what I did. It's holding up great.
12-18-2008 06:40 PM
Jerry Bransford They're not going to use water soluable dye, especially not for automotive applications. Get out of analysis paralysis and go buy some aerosol fabric seat cover dye from your local Autozone.
12-18-2008 06:16 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
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Originally Posted by chief100psu View Post
I used it on the door panels of my old camaro. I never looked quite even and took a lot of cans to finish the job. If (maybe some one can attest) the roll pads are washable, then I suggest the RIT dye. You really need to wash out the excess.

Remember when you had to wash new clothes separate? The dye needs to be completely be washed away. I would be hesitant to use the spray dye as I am not sure how it would react to water (stuck in a rain shower w/o the top)
VERY GOOD POINT CHIEF!
It's possible that the dye could run off your pads, (in a rain storm) and get into your carpet.

Anyone done this before?
12-18-2008 05:55 PM
chief100psu I used it on the door panels of my old camaro. I never looked quite even and took a lot of cans to finish the job. If (maybe some one can attest) the roll pads are washable, then I suggest the RIT dye. You really need to wash out the excess.

Remember when you had to wash new clothes separate? The dye needs to be completely be washed away. I would be hesitant to use the spray dye as I am not sure how it would react to water (stuck in a rain shower w/o the top)
12-18-2008 05:45 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Chicks don't dye stuff anymore, they don't know WTF they're talking about where dying is concerned nowadays. I had to dye a white t-shirt brown for a military thing years ago and I had to do it myself, my wife didn't have a clue how to do it. Go buy a couple aerosol cans of fabric seat dye at your local autoparts store and go for it. Black is easy to get even.
lol, that's true. I think what they were "trying" to tell me is that the Roll Bar Pad type of material wouldn't soak the dye up evenly. I've never dyed Jack Sh*t before, so I didn't know what to think about it.

I never thought about fabric spray on dye, that's a good idea. Has anyone ever used that before? Does it work good, or does it rub off relatively easy?

Which of the two methods do you think would work better. Spray ON, or Soak IN?
12-18-2008 05:33 PM
Jerry Bransford Chicks don't dye stuff anymore, they don't know WTF they're talking about where dying is concerned nowadays. I had to dye a white t-shirt brown for a military thing years ago and I had to do it myself, my wife didn't have a clue how to do it. Go buy a couple aerosol cans of fabric seat dye at your local autoparts store and go for it. Black is easy to get even.
12-18-2008 05:12 PM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
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Originally Posted by activelydying View Post
I just painted mine and the chicks love me.
There ya go!
12-18-2008 04:18 PM
activelydying I just painted mine and the chicks love me.
12-18-2008 04:17 PM
chief100psu
Note on the dye

I used black dye for pants for work before and it seemed to work well. I used the standard RIT dye that is sold at the grocery store. Just make sure you soak them 2-3x longer than recommended (can black be too black?) and wash them out well you should be fine.
12-18-2008 03:32 AM
BLACKTOOTHGRIN
Roll bar pads

I'd like to get a full set of Black Roll Bar Pads to replace my Tan ones. Does anyone know where I can get a complete, good quality set for a reasonable price?

(BTW, my Rig is a 98 Sahara)

The only complete set that I've found so far was $175. Jeeez, they're just pads for Heavens Sake! Others that I found are around $100, but I don't think they are the complete set because it only shows 1 bar in the picture.

I've even thought of just buying some fabric dye and dye my tan ones, but all the chicks say NO, it won't dye evenly. So, I dunno.

Would anyone like to donate some??? heh,heh.

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