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08-02-2013 09:03 AM
insylem With me it's the clutch.
My cobalt Clutch has alot more resistance then my JK Clutch
08-02-2013 08:07 AM
crypple My 2 cents? For all the postulating about leaving the pedal stock, I've had mine on a single spring system for almost 12 months now and it's awesome. Drives so much smoother and there's no problems whatsoever offroad. Why people think that almost everything on the Jeep is able to be modified except a gas pedal is beyond me. Pull the inner spring out, you'll enjoy the difference.
08-02-2013 07:58 AM
okie I know it has been a few months back since anyone posted in this thread but I figured I'd chime in.

Someone mentioned a sprintbooster earlier but that doesn't exactly fix this problem. I have a flashpack installed on my 09 jk along with a sprintbooster. The jeep responds a lot better with both installed but it doesn't solve the stiff pedal. The sprintbooster tricks the computer into thinking you have pushed the pedal down farther than what you actually did. Even at that its still a pain to drive around town.

I'm thinking about pulling the spring out tonight because mine is still driving me nuts. Maybe I won't have but one extra part when I get finished lol.
02-01-2013 08:39 PM
MichiganJeepster I had the same issue with my girlfriends Ford Fusion. Jumped in it after my Jeep and dumped an iced tea on her lap from the soft pedal leading to rabbit launch. LOL
01-30-2013 11:08 PM
JeepLifeYall
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Originally Posted by courtney123 View Post
I've had it a month and just cracked 500. Yeah, I gotta get out more...
I think I hit 500 in a week lol. I went on drives late at night just because I enjoyed driving it.
01-30-2013 10:10 PM
baddandy Awesome write-up! This just fixed the one thing I hated about my JK vs my TJ. That has now been rectified. Only took me less than an hour, start to finish.
01-09-2013 06:54 PM
JKASS Did mine tonight, much better taking off with the 6 speed now. Feels like my old YJ I used to have. Props to SDSKPA on the 30 minute install. I was about an hour and a half. Gotta lose some weight, trying to get my fat ass under the dash was a pain!
01-08-2013 10:08 PM
SilverSport
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Originally Posted by Con Artist View Post
I wish you would have taken some photos. I was gonna look into it but I dunno which panels to remove, how to remove them, etc.
I didn't have time to take photos; I was busy polishing walnuts.

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Originally Posted by GREEN-MACHINE View Post
go to my post #51 in this thread,, it shows what panels to remove and at what angle you need to get your ratchet extension swivel at ,,, remember 10mm socket 1\4 drive 18 inch extension,,, oh and put swivel between the socket and extension,
The only thing I did different was go in thru the opening where the panels were removed to access the top nut. Still used the u joint on the extension.
01-08-2013 06:59 PM
JKWrangler2012
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Originally Posted by Con Artist

It's near impossible to start off smoothly, and what I find myself doing is having to depress the gas pedal, then feather out the clutch, keeping the revs at about 1,500-2,000 RPMs or so.
:shocked face:

Do you smell burning clutch?!
01-08-2013 12:04 PM
Con Artist
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Originally Posted by GREEN-MACHINE View Post
go to my post #51 in this thread,, it shows what panels to remove and at what angle you need to get your ratchet extension swivel at ,,, remember 10mm socket 1\4 drive 18 inch extension,,, oh and put swivel between the socket and extension,
Will do! Thanks!
01-08-2013 11:53 AM
GREEN-MACHINE
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Originally Posted by Con Artist View Post
I wish you would have taken some photos. I was gonna look into it but I dunno which panels to remove, how to remove them, etc.
go to my post #51 in this thread,, it shows what panels to remove and at what angle you need to get your ratchet extension swivel at ,,, remember 10mm socket 1\4 drive 18 inch extension,,, oh and put swivel between the socket and extension,
01-08-2013 11:46 AM
Con Artist
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Originally Posted by SilverSport View Post
I did the spring yesterday just for the hell of it. Removed the smaller OEM spring and substituted one I had laying around the garage. Same diameter and length but finer wire. I vote Win Win for this mod!
I wish you would have taken some photos. I was gonna look into it but I dunno which panels to remove, how to remove them, etc.
01-08-2013 11:29 AM
stretch05 This is a useful discussion. I test drove two new Unlimiteds yesterday (one auto, one manual) and this was my biggest concern. I almost thought I COULDNT get a new Jeep.
12-18-2012 06:12 AM
M5ivan It shouldn't move around as it's inside the larger spring just like the original spring was.
Not sure about the diameter and length, but the picture I posted gives you some idea. I bought the spring at Home Depot in a package with a few other compression springs.
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Originally Posted by SilverSport View Post
What's to stop your new inside spring from flopping around?

BTW what diameter and length was the new spring before you modded it?
12-17-2012 12:51 PM
SilverSport I did the spring yesterday just for the hell of it. Removed the smaller OEM spring and substituted one I had laying around the garage. Same diameter and length but finer wire. I vote Win Win for this mod!
12-17-2012 08:28 AM
Con Artist
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Originally Posted by crypple View Post
Yes, mine is auto and I would hope this wasn't an issue on the manuals. I agree about the spring fatigue. I think the happy medium is between the removal of one spring and the fatigue of the stock system. I'm going to purchase a replacement pedal and shorten & stretch the small spring. It's slightly too soft right now but I think I can get it ideal that way.
With the manuals, it seems like it's "all or nothing." Initial depression of the gas pedal is stiff, but once there's some "fuel response," it's smooth sailing. It's just that you really have to give it a good mash off the get-go.

It's near impossible to start off smoothly, and what I find myself doing is having to depress the gas pedal, then feather out the clutch, keeping the revs at about 1,500-2,000 RPMs or so.
12-17-2012 08:22 AM
Con Artist
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Originally Posted by crypple View Post
It's worth a shot, you can always go back. There are instructions on page 1 of this thread
Guess I missed'em!
12-17-2012 08:16 AM
jliu
sprintbooster

That is always another option.
12-17-2012 07:58 AM
crypple
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Originally Posted by Con Artist View Post
Sounds like I may wanna try removing it. How do I remove the spring?
It's worth a shot, you can always go back. There are instructions on page 1 of this thread
12-17-2012 06:35 AM
mflint1513
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Originally Posted by Con Artist
Nearly 10,000 miles on mine and the gas pedal is pretty firm. Not to mention, I simply can NOT get off to a smooth start, no matter what (manual transmission). I've been driving manuals for nearly 12 years and haven't had any problems with any of my manual vehicles until this one. It's impossible to feather the gas and I feel like I always have to rev the engine to about 2,000 RPMs to keep the damned thing from stalling.

...Maybe it's the electronic throttle?
Same here but with 35,000 miles. My pedal is light though. I was used to my TJ where I had to apply pressure to the gas pedal and the friction point on the clutch was much lower. In the JK, it's a pain because the friction point is WAY higher and the gas pedal shoots my RPM to 2,000 just by thinking about it. Gas is a lot more sensitive than I want it to be.
12-17-2012 05:59 AM
Con Artist
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Originally Posted by crypple View Post
Depends on what kind of driving you're doing. I understand that some jeep owners prefer the factory dual spring setup in the gas pedal to avoid 'bouncy throttle' on rough trails. That does make sense. If you're more of a city/mountain trail driver you'll find that removing the center spring from the assembly will make your life much easier.

If you're on the fence, after removing the middle spring I compared my gas pedal to a Mercedes e350, Lexus es300, & Nissan murano. Chances are you'll have had some experience with a vehicle in one of these categories as they all use the same drive by wire components as their sibling models. The modified jeep pedal is still more stiff then any of those.

So it's still a firmer pedal then most sedans or SUVs, but requires much less effort to engage. For me it's resulted in a much smoother and enjoyable driving experience and I've had no difficulty on the trail whatsoever. The caveat being that I'm not driving a jacked up rock crawling rig, nor do I intend to be doing that kind of driving.
Sounds like I may wanna try removing it. How do I remove the spring?
12-16-2012 02:02 PM
crypple
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Originally Posted by crypple

So it's still a firmer pedal then most sedans or SUVs, but requires much less effort to engage.
*than stock
12-16-2012 01:29 PM
crypple
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Originally Posted by Con Artist
Nearly 10,000 miles on mine and the gas pedal is pretty firm. Not to mention, I simply can NOT get off to a smooth start, no matter what (manual transmission). I've been driving manuals for nearly 12 years and haven't had any problems with any of my manual vehicles until this one. It's impossible to feather the gas and I feel like I always have to rev the engine to about 2,000 RPMs to keep the damned thing from stalling.

...Maybe it's the electronic throttle?
Depends on what kind of driving you're doing. I understand that some jeep owners prefer the factory dual spring setup in the gas pedal to avoid 'bouncy throttle' on rough trails. That does make sense. If you're more of a city/mountain trail driver you'll find that removing the center spring from the assembly will make your life much easier.

If you're on the fence, after removing the middle spring I compared my gas pedal to a Mercedes e350, Lexus es300, & Nissan murano. Chances are you'll have had some experience with a vehicle in one of these categories as they all use the same drive by wire components as their sibling models. The modified jeep pedal is still more stiff then any of those.

So it's still a firmer pedal then most sedans or SUVs, but requires much less effort to engage. For me it's resulted in a much smoother and enjoyable driving experience and I've had no difficulty on the trail whatsoever. The caveat being that I'm not driving a jacked up rock crawling rig, nor do I intend to be doing that kind of driving.
12-16-2012 03:31 AM
Con Artist Nearly 10,000 miles on mine and the gas pedal is pretty firm. Not to mention, I simply can NOT get off to a smooth start, no matter what (manual transmission). I've been driving manuals for nearly 12 years and haven't had any problems with any of my manual vehicles until this one. It's impossible to feather the gas and I feel like I always have to rev the engine to about 2,000 RPMs to keep the damned thing from stalling.

...Maybe it's the electronic throttle?
12-16-2012 01:54 AM
Lusus_Naturae
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Originally Posted by ArticCat View Post
Believe it or not the second you hit 1000 miles the jeep comes alive. It's hard to explain but you are in for a surprise and a pleasant one at that. Seems like they have some kind of breakin procedure pre programmed.
I was enjoying my firm gas pedal actually. I could rest my foot a bit while driving without worrying I was putting too much weight on the pedal for once, then I got over 1000 miles... yeah... it loosened up and my shift points in the transmission changed too. I am now at about 2000 miles and it's the same, I wish I could go back to the first 1000 miles on it.
12-08-2012 08:08 PM
SilverSport
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Originally Posted by M5ivan View Post
Well I finally did this as I've voiced my opinion of the "hard" gas pedal since day one. I completely understand why it's built this way, and I'd prefer the stiffer pedal for off-road, but 99% of the time I'm not off-road I tried removing each spring separately and either way the pedal was much too soft. I went to Home depot and bought some small compression springs. In the picture below, the thicker spring is the smaller spring in the pedal assembly. I replaced it with a cut version of the spring next to it. I just cut it to the same approximate length and the OEM spring and voila, it's perfect (for me)
What's to stop your new inside spring from flopping around?

BTW what diameter and length was the new spring before you modded it?
12-08-2012 06:32 PM
1Chance75 I just did my pedal this afternoon. I had been having some hip pain from a cycling injury and the stiff pedal was making it worse. Took the inner spring out and it's nice and soft now. Thanks for the procedure write up.
11-13-2012 03:55 PM
JeepHerz Subscribed.
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11-13-2012 12:53 PM
Cascadian
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Originally Posted by chim-chim7 View Post
Gas pedal hard to push, man card rejected.
11-13-2012 12:15 PM
GREEN-MACHINE well i did find some picture, one is the angle of the ratchet .
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