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Today 12:17 PM
Mojeaux As stated... a can of worms.
Today 12:13 PM
Ljcrawler05 It's actually left me stranded a few times here lately before I figured out the solenoid is bad in it... Therefore draining my jeep after 15 mins to 20 mins... unhooked all my lights, rewired the fan, and then got to the winch and discovered it was the problem. So it's not always the best 70lbs to have hanging off the front of your jeep haha
Today 11:54 AM
eton Gotta say I really like having the winch...worth its weight!
Today 10:09 AM
brandon. You guys that say you don't need a winch bc you have other people just haven't hit the right situation. I know of trails around here where I've had to winch myself out bc the vehicle I was with couldn't maneuver to pull me out and I've had to anchor to trees and use the winch to pull someone else out bc I couldn't safely do it with a strap. I don't mind the front weight either, helps to prevent the front end from unloading on steep climbs and counter balances the tire and all the crap I have in the back.
Today 08:49 AM
Raiders1901
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Originally Posted by DirtyRob View Post
I agree. I am in no way a guru or any authority on Jeeps, It is strictly opinion.
I would like to note that My $300 winch is much more valuable than any tire combo. I take my stock XJ (daily driver) with 235/75/15 tires with front locker and winch, places heavily modified Jeeps have a tough time going. (I have 18 acres of muddy trails here)

I was commenting due to some of the pics in previous pages where people were stuck in ruts with stock looking Jeeps. I always try to offer advice to new wheelers, that is my only intent
I have no desire to offend or open any can of worms
I really want a winch, but feel as if the front of my Jeep is already unbalanced and leaning towards the front (front passenger side is really where it is leaning, thanks gas can). In a perfect world I would get my bumpers, winch, then a lift, and then tires, but those all cost a pretty penny (for what I want to get at least). Since I go off-roading with this fine group at WranglerForum I never go it alone and feel like that expense wouldn't be justified as much as a lift and tires. A lift and tires benefits are three fold, they help you not get stuck as easily in mud (you definitely will still get stuck), they increase your approach, departure, and break-over angle so you can get over larger obstacles, and they make your jeep look pretty bad ass.

That being said, I will probably end up getting bumpers and a winch before a lift since it wont affect my warranty and I can go wheeling whenever I want without having to worry so much about getting stuck (between a winch and a hi-lift jack, I should be able to get out of almost anything)
Today 08:27 AM
Raiders1901
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Originally Posted by Kimano View Post
Morrisville. Raiders, was that you in front of me at the Sheets car wash an hour or two ago?
HAHA, yeah that was me. I was on my way to a Bachelor Party and was trying to get a little more mud stains off the Jeep before I went. Not gonna lie, I was a little jealous of your muddy Jeep after I pulled in. Made me feel like a mall crawler for getting a carwash on a non muddy jeep haha (there is still plenty of mud under it though that I desperately need to go power wash out)
Yesterday 08:27 PM
ESP It's probably a swamp.
Yesterday 06:37 PM
johnwj if anyone really likes mud, i bet breckenridge is a blast right now after the monsoon that came through morrisville today
Yesterday 06:17 PM
DJL2 Anyone going out this week to enjoy the rain and what not? I have a few days off and might be able to link up for something.
Yesterday 04:45 PM
DirtyRob
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Originally Posted by Mojeaux View Post
I think this is another one of those "can of worms" issues, but I'll add some pennies to the well.
{Comments below this line are strictly my opinion}
Unless you are an avid or hardcore off-road goer, I cannot justify the price of winch, nor the unnecessary added weight to the front end (especially if it is a DD). If you wheel alone, yeah, you should probably look at investing in one. In most situations around here (as John noted), a winch isn't really necessary, as a tow strap is enough. I see way too many people that buy these strictly for the looks and nothing more, zero intent to ever use it.
As for many going straight to a lift/tire combo, that is one of the easiest ways to get a more aggressive look on your Jeep, as well as tackle some trails. Experience does come into play here, and someone that has been wheeling for a long time would probably get a recovery mechanism as their first mod. But with the rise in Jeep purchases lately (JKs), there's a newer generation to off-roading now, and also that lack of experience.

Me personally, I would say that if you're planning on getting a winch and replacing the front bumper, do that first before you install your lift. It is much easier to adjust the rake with the weight already there. That is, of course, if you want your Jeep level or not. Hundreds of variables to this scenario, and everyone will have their own advice and opinions.
I agree. I am in no way a guru or any authority on Jeeps, It is strictly opinion.
I would like to note that My $300 winch is much more valuable than any tire combo. I take my stock XJ (daily driver) with 235/75/15 tires with front locker and winch, places heavily modified Jeeps have a tough time going. (I have 18 acres of muddy trails here)

I was commenting due to some of the pics in previous pages where people were stuck in ruts with stock looking Jeeps. I always try to offer advice to new wheelers, that is my only intent
I have no desire to offend or open any can of worms
Yesterday 11:33 AM
packpride
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Originally Posted by mojeaux View Post
i think this is another one of those "can of worms" issues, but i'll add some pennies to the well. {comments below this line are strictly my opinion} unless you are an avid or hardcore off-road goer, i cannot justify the price of winch, nor the unnecessary added weight to the front end (especially if it is a dd). If you wheel alone, yeah, you should probably look at investing in one. In most situations around here (as john noted), a winch isn't really necessary, as a tow strap is enough. I see way too many people that buy these strictly for the looks and nothing more, zero intent to ever use it. As for many going straight to a lift/tire combo, that is one of the easiest ways to get a more aggressive look on your jeep, as well as tackle some trails. Experience does come into play here, and someone that has been wheeling for a long time would probably get a recovery mechanism as their first mod. But with the rise in jeep purchases lately (jks), there's a newer generation to off-roading now, and also that lack of experience. Me personally, i would say that if you're planning on getting a winch and replacing the front bumper, do that first before you install your lift. It is much easier to adjust the rake with the weight already there. That is, of course, if you want your jeep level or not. Hundreds of variables to this scenario, and everyone will have their own advice and opinions.
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Yesterday 07:24 AM
Mojeaux
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Originally Posted by DirtyRob View Post
Count me in for the next get together east of Raleigh.
I do have one question on the pics I keep seeing in this thread.....Why is there so many people that neglect to buy a winch?

I am not trying to start anything, I just know that there are a lot of people that read these forums that have no experience
I build custom parts and install/build lifts for people all the time and I always recommend that they buy a winch before tires and lift as the first mod.
Maybe I say this because I got a phone call from two "friends" at 2am today that were barely stuck with big lifts and tires and no winches. I got them out easily with my small winch. just my .02
I think this is another one of those "can of worms" issues, but I'll add some pennies to the well.
{Comments below this line are strictly my opinion}
Unless you are an avid or hardcore off-road goer, I cannot justify the price of winch, nor the unnecessary added weight to the front end (especially if it is a DD). If you wheel alone, yeah, you should probably look at investing in one. In most situations around here (as John noted), a winch isn't really necessary, as a tow strap is enough. I see way too many people that buy these strictly for the looks and nothing more, zero intent to ever use it.
As for many going straight to a lift/tire combo, that is one of the easiest ways to get a more aggressive look on your Jeep, as well as tackle some trails. Experience does come into play here, and someone that has been wheeling for a long time would probably get a recovery mechanism as their first mod. But with the rise in Jeep purchases lately (JKs), there's a newer generation to off-roading now, and also that lack of experience.

Me personally, I would say that if you're planning on getting a winch and replacing the front bumper, do that first before you install your lift. It is much easier to adjust the rake with the weight already there. That is, of course, if you want your Jeep level or not. Hundreds of variables to this scenario, and everyone will have their own advice and opinions.
07-20-2014 06:32 PM
johnwj
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Originally Posted by DirtyRob View Post
Count me in for the next get together east of Raleigh.
I do have one question on the pics I keep seeing in this thread.....Why is there so many people that neglect to buy a winch?

I am not trying to start anything, I just know that there are a lot of people that read these forums that have no experience
I build custom parts and install/build lifts for people all the time and I always recommend that they buy a winch before tires and lift as the first mod.
Maybe I say this because I got a phone call from two "friends" at 2am today that were barely stuck with big lifts and tires and no winches. I got them out easily with my small winch. just my .02
I will run a winch later on. I ran one on my tj and in all honesty probably used it three times. Two of the times, the jeeps I was trying to pull were two stuck for me to get with the winch alone. The other time, we probably could have pulled it with three guys on a tow strap but I wanted to use my winch since I never had before.

I typically don't wheel alone and I feel that the driver is more important than the vehicle when it comes to offroading and I feel fine in my skill level. But one day, I will get one, if for nothing else than because it's a safety net.
07-20-2014 06:14 PM
DirtyRob Count me in for the next get together east of Raleigh.
I do have one question on the pics I keep seeing in this thread.....Why is there so many people that neglect to buy a winch?

I am not trying to start anything, I just know that there are a lot of people that read these forums that have no experience
I build custom parts and install/build lifts for people all the time and I always recommend that they buy a winch before tires and lift as the first mod.
Maybe I say this because I got a phone call from two "friends" at 2am today that were barely stuck with big lifts and tires and no winches. I got them out easily with my small winch. just my .02
07-20-2014 04:54 PM
ESP
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Originally Posted by johnwj View Post
yes. You would be very surprised at what a stock jeep can do
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07-20-2014 04:04 PM
johnwj
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Originally Posted by drspec View Post
I would like to try a little off roading as well Is a stock Sport S practical?
Yes. You would be very surprised at what a stock jeep can do
07-20-2014 04:02 PM
drspec I would like to try a little off roading as well

Is a stock Sport S practical?
07-20-2014 03:55 PM
djtorchio
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Originally Posted by Kimano View Post
To be more specific, this is it here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/21...3ad9d3c8a59279

It's a pretty good place to go solo, as long as you stay away from the 3-4 bigger ruts.
Hey...I just jumped on this Wrangler Forum as I bought my first Jeep recently ('14 Wrangler Unlimited 4DR. I've been playin' around with my son taking him a bit off roads/light mudding out in Wake Forest. I'm 47 and didn't know if there are any groups, clubs or people that just get together to go off-roadin' with Jeeps. I love my Jeep but really want to get out into the off-roads to explore and have fun 4x4'ing. Any suggestions? Someone (maybe it was you) google-mapped a spot at the end of Louis Stephens Dr. in Morrisville. I may check that out next weekend with my boy. Also, I kind of want to go with someone or a group in case I got stuck or in a pickle and needed to be pulled out if needed.
07-20-2014 11:25 AM
johnwj
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Originally Posted by gel04tj View Post
When is anyone doing a meet & greet/ trail ride day?
I say the sooner, the better
07-20-2014 11:22 AM
gel04tj When is anyone doing a meet & greet/ trail ride day?
07-20-2014 08:44 AM
johnwj
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Originally Posted by thopki01 View Post
I haven't made it there with my jeep. How is it?
it was my first time out there. I hit 5000 miles as we were on the beach. It's so much fun. It's a lot different than being on a trail in the mountains. But still a great way to spend the day.
07-20-2014 08:29 AM
thopki01
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Originally Posted by johnwj View Post
Yep
I haven't made it there with my jeep. How is it?
07-20-2014 08:21 AM
ESP Pictures of the beach just make you go mmmm....
07-20-2014 07:11 AM
gel04tj Thanks for the info. Would like to check it out sometime.
07-20-2014 07:10 AM
johnwj
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Originally Posted by thopki01 View Post
Looks awesome dude. Corolla?
Yep
07-20-2014 06:26 AM
thopki01
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Originally Posted by johnwj View Post
Not a bad way to spend a Friday.
Looks awesome dude. Corolla?
07-20-2014 12:34 AM
johnwj Not a bad way to spend a Friday.
07-19-2014 10:15 PM
Kimano
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Originally Posted by gel04tj View Post
Where is Breckenridge?
To be more specific, this is it here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/21...3ad9d3c8a59279

It's a pretty good place to go solo, as long as you stay away from the 3-4 bigger ruts.
07-19-2014 05:51 PM
Kimano Morrisville. Raiders, was that you in front of me at the Sheets car wash an hour or two ago?
07-19-2014 03:27 PM
gel04tj Where is Breckenridge?
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