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12-19-2012 09:01 AM
kappaknight I'm still a noob myself - but learn to use your tools before you head out. You don't want the first time using them be on the trail.
12-11-2012 06:02 PM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin View Post

Let the showboats and experts take the plunge. I've had several "Oh, hell, I can make this!" moments where I was the first up/down/in and regretted it later.

Denis
I like going up first!! And uselessly dont walk it first since we tend to go up things that you cant walk up. As far as mud holes go I avoid them like the plague.
Another pointer is allways try to keep one end of the jeep pointed somewhere that it can be tied onto for recovery. It sucks trying to get a jeep back that has the front ageist a wall and the rear is on a tree or something that wont move.
12-10-2012 02:14 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin

Let the showboats and experts take the plunge. I've had several "Oh, hell, I can make this!" moments where I was the first up/down/in and regretted it later.

Denis
My favorite saying" hold my beer. Watch this"
12-10-2012 02:12 PM
denisbaldwin
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Originally Posted by kurtz265 View Post
LOL I love the "never be first advice"... advice that I follow myself! Bad news is... someones got to be first
Let the showboats and experts take the plunge. I've had several "Oh, hell, I can make this!" moments where I was the first up/down/in and regretted it later.

Denis
12-10-2012 02:10 PM
kurtz265
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Originally Posted by denisbaldwin View Post
Plan for the absolute worst and have a way out of it. Never be the first up or down a hole or hill. Always walk the course first. Get line of sight. Work in groups with your fellow Jeepers. Take it slow. 4 Low is your friend. If you're stuck, try to back out of it.
LOL I love the "never be first advice"... advice that I follow myself! Bad news is... someones got to be first
12-10-2012 01:06 PM
denisbaldwin Plan for the absolute worst and have a way out of it. Never be the first up or down a hole or hill. Always walk the course first. Get line of sight. Work in groups with your fellow Jeepers. Take it slow. 4 Low is your friend. If you're stuck, try to back out of it.
12-10-2012 11:50 AM
kldavis722 Went wheeling yesterday with very experrienced jeepers and had a blast. There were many times at first I saw a spot and thought hell no until the jeep ahead took it easily and then I was all for it. I think trail guides are more valuable than any equipment you can buy but now I'm intimidated into into not going into the unknown without one.

I'm glad I had a winch, snatchblock, tow strap and big tires, too. I got to use them all to help others out. Told people it felt better to be an asset than a liability. Not sure if the terrain arround here warrrents a hi-lift but I'll ask around.

Thanks again, keep it coming!
12-10-2012 01:05 AM
mckey73 I forgot to add that in my experience running a 12.5" wide tire on a full size vehicle in sand there have been a couple of instances where I have needed to go below 18 psi in the tires. A couple of weeks ago I got stuck in a little sand in my stock JKU Sport with the 275/75R17's and "aired down" to 20 psi to get out. The worst part was digging out to get to the valve stem.
12-10-2012 12:31 AM
mckey73 The best advice I can give you right now is to buy a High-Lift jack, the 48" model will fit underneath the backseat of your JKU. After having 2 60" jacks stolen I opted to keep them inside (buy the vinyl cover!), the 48" can do just as much as a 60". On the high-lift website they have videos and manuals that explain almost all of the applications of the jack. Your imagination is your best friend with this machine, I have used it to get stumps out of my yard!

Even if you do have a winch, these things are priceless in the field. Oh, the handle is a very good weapon if things really go to caca.
12-10-2012 12:10 AM
Big Dutch Thanks to all sharing their experience from yet another upcoming noob...
12-09-2012 02:49 PM
Billynsuzanne Great question, awesome advice.

Thanks
12-08-2012 12:38 AM
hdb I dont know if this is the same on the jk but in my tj the steering wheel adjustment lever thing on the left side of the colum is great for smacking your kneecap against when youre on a bouncy trail, it really hurts so keep that in mind. Also, big flat looking areas with medium to tall grass can hide ditches and holes and things so dont assume its flat just because it looks it, be wary of what the grass can hide. Before you go down something think about whether or not youll be able to get back up. Get out and look at stuff before you drive over it. Most places ive gotten stuck I never expected to get stuck in because they looked relatively dry and I had been through them before but, once youre stuck and cant undo it youll really want a cellphone (if noones with you) bug repellant, heavy gloves and spare clean towels etc. these are just things I didnt see mentioned in other recovery/survival/tool kit posts
12-07-2012 09:04 PM
WatchThis!
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Originally Posted by stans1stjeep View Post
Go with experienced friends and have at least one good tow strap between you.

Don't do anything your gut tells you is stupid.

have a CB or FRS radio to talk to the others with you. The radio makes it both safer and more fun.

Your Wrangler is plenty capable as is. Just take it easy, enjoy the ride & be amazed at where your Jeep will take you.
Great advise for someone new to the game, but after you have been doing it a while you might end up doing somethings that your gut is screaming and hollering NOOO!!!! the first time you try them. This is when the real fun starts. ;-)

Now to get this thread back on track. Learn to use your brakes as little as possible, they can make you slide somewhere you dont want to go, lose your line, and even swap ends on slippery hills. Neve, never, never stomp on the brakes if you find yourself in a position that you think you are going to flip backwards or forwards. If you think you are going over you need to go to reverse if the front end is coming up (or press the clutch and roll back) or stomp on the gas if the back is going to go over.

Yeah you might smack into a tree or something but it beats the hell out of fliping your jeep.
12-07-2012 10:44 AM
ditchdoc0331 The advanced life saving i'm good on i'm a paramedic got my first aid kit lol, working on getting my other stuff right now
12-05-2012 03:05 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by kurtz265

Dont get me wrong, Im a staunch 2A supporter, and I have several out of state licenses. That said, I dont consider my firearms a "must have packed" item for any offroading I do, and the thread itself was geared towards tips and techniques for those new to offroading! How to hold a zero with a 308, or having a 45 vs a 9 just didnt enter my mind here
It was not about shooting it was about being cations of people. Not everyone is a nice guy. It can be a deadly rookie mistake. For the most part everyone is great. But all it takes is that one character and you can pay with your life.
12-05-2012 12:18 PM
kurtz265
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Originally Posted by Mitchness View Post
Plenty of marijuana growers like to grow their crops up in the mountains away from prying eyes. I've stumble upon a couple before, and I have heard of people being shot at that have done the same. Regardless of drug dealers you're out in the wilderness where large, wild animals abound. Better to have and not need, and all that...
Dont get me wrong, Im a staunch 2A supporter, and I have several out of state licenses. That said, I dont consider my firearms a "must have packed" item for any offroading I do, and the thread itself was geared towards tips and techniques for those new to offroading! How to hold a zero with a 308, or having a 45 vs a 9 just didnt enter my mind here
12-05-2012 12:10 PM
allblackedout
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc

Yea it was. We notice something wrong it was two escalades. One may have broken down and some guys in ranchero clothes waved us down. It was dark so they were close by the time we noticed they just didn't belong there I already had my 9 ready and I was riding shotgun in a Cherokee. When we got close he pulled a gun and we just started shooting at each other. We drove off as fast as he could drive the other escalade or suburban followed after we got a lead we stoped and I got out my 308 took one shot and they stopped. And we drove off and camped way off the trail that night no camp fire and firewatch that night.
holy shit man thats crazy
12-05-2012 12:05 PM
Mitchness
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Originally Posted by kurtz265 View Post
I think it's safe to say there are no pistol packing drug runners at most off road parks.
Plenty of marijuana growers like to grow their crops up in the mountains away from prying eyes. I've stumble upon a couple before, and I have heard of people being shot at that have done the same. Regardless of drug dealers you're out in the wilderness where large, wild animals abound. Better to have and not need, and all that...
12-05-2012 11:22 AM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by YJmaddness
The Boy Scout said it best, be prepared!
Ohh great, now I got everybody packing. Well you know what they say. Victims that shoot back live longer.
12-05-2012 11:12 AM
YJmaddness The Boy Scout said it best, be prepared!
12-05-2012 08:01 AM
Ianbeaulieu
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Originally Posted by kurtz265 View Post
I think it's safe to say there are no pistol packing drug runners at most off road parks.
Ya never know
12-05-2012 06:17 AM
kurtz265 I think it's safe to say there are no pistol packing drug runners at most off road parks.
12-04-2012 11:34 PM
Ianbeaulieu
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post

Yea it was. We notice something wrong it was two escalades. One may have broken down and some guys in ranchero clothes waved us down. It was dark so they were close by the time we noticed they just didn't belong there I already had my 9 ready and I was riding shotgun in a Cherokee. When we got close he pulled a gun and we just started shooting at each other. We drove off as fast as he could drive the other escalade or suburban followed after we got a lead we stoped and I got out my 308 took one shot and they stopped. And we drove off and camped way off the trail that night no camp fire and firewatch that night.
Dam talk about a adrenalin rush man, glad your okay
12-04-2012 11:21 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by Ianbeaulieu

really? Thats kinda scary haha
And bring a gun!
Yea it was. We notice something wrong it was two escalades. One may have broken down and some guys in ranchero clothes waved us down. It was dark so they were close by the time we noticed they just didn't belong there I already had my 9 ready and I was riding shotgun in a Cherokee. When we got close he pulled a gun and we just started shooting at each other. We drove off as fast as he could drive the other escalade or suburban followed after we got a lead we stoped and I got out my 308 took one shot and they stopped. And we drove off and camped way off the trail that night no camp fire and firewatch that night.
12-04-2012 10:55 PM
Ianbeaulieu
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post

I have ran into drug runners while doing a run from ridgecrest to Vegas and there was gun fire between us.
really? Thats kinda scary haha
And bring a gun!
12-04-2012 08:35 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by ditchdoc0331
thanks for this thread great advice
Apply to a advance life saving coarse, have first aid kit, fire extinguisher, spare tire that is close or same size as the rest. Water sanitizer pills, tow rope, rug, comealong, high lifting jack. Some dirt tool. I pesonaly like my e-tool. And small tool kit. When you go out have a overnight bag with food and water. As far as driving and airing down if you have a way of getting air back into the tire sure it will save your back and give you more traction, save the sidewalls from some punctures. But if you can't get air back in after leaving the trail within reasonable distance like five miles. Just air out if your need more traction. Or your tire can overheat and pop if driven at highway speeds. And in your tool kit have duct tape, bailing wire and several hose clamps. Don't think everyone is your friend out there. I have ran into drug runners while doing a run from ridgecrest to Vegas and there was gun fire between us.
12-04-2012 04:20 PM
ditchdoc0331 thanks for this thread great advice
12-04-2012 12:50 AM
beaker
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Originally Posted by kldavis722 View Post
HA! That's what I'm talking about. Stuff that isn't obvious or will keep me out of danger that's been learned through trial and error by others. Keep the wisdom coming!

If things work out right, I'll be heading out to an ORP with Houston Jeep People Sunday. I'm picking up my post mod jeep tomorrow evening and can't wait to get that sucker into 4wd.

Thanks again guys!

Thanks for inquiring!! I loved all the info and will hopefully get to the point soon where I can use it too.

Thanks to you all for all the advice.
12-03-2012 10:59 PM
kldavis722 HA! That's what I'm talking about. Stuff that isn't obvious or will keep me out of danger that's been learned through trial and error by others. Keep the wisdom coming!

If things work out right, I'll be heading out to an ORP with Houston Jeep People Sunday. I'm picking up my post mod jeep tomorrow evening and can't wait to get that sucker into 4wd.

Thanks again guys!
12-03-2012 08:25 PM
The Tonk
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Originally Posted by Mitchness View Post
Momentum is your friend. In almost all cases when traversing anything slippery or loose (mud, sand, wet rock, etc) stopping will be the death knell. But don't let that force you to keep going if you feel it will lead to an unsafe situation. Again, as told, this is something learned by experience.

Presuming you're unlocked, if you find yourself with both axles spinning freely apply slight brake while under throttle. It can add enough resistance to distribute some torque back to the static tires. Not a "cure-all" but it may make enough of a difference depending on the situation.

Power hopping is a big no-no, especially with the D35. If you're climbing a hill, lose momentum, and begin bouncing, let off the throttle! That is exactly how you snap an axle shaft.

If on a sidehill be very cautious when turning. Turning uphill can very quickly lead to a rollover. Sadly yet more experience needed to learn correctly.

Don't let your pride get in the way of safe navigation. We had a local guy roll his brand new JKUR by pressing the edge of the trail because he didn't want to scratch his paint on rosebushes on the other side. Instead of just scratches he ended up with a crushed hard top, bent doors, and plenty of scratched paint.
Lol. Love the sig especially on this thread.
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