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01-28-2009 10:00 PM
Joe Dirt I'm a huge 2nd amend supporter, but I couldn't support that type of bill because some states are plain crazy. I don't want criminals to have concealed guns. States that issue CCW's require that you don't have any felony. But, what about a misdemeanor from another state. In crazy states like CA, battery, brandishing a firearm, resisting arrest, sexual battery, and may other crimes are misdemeanors and would be felonies in other states. I think it sounds good on paper, but I work in the system and don't trust that it would work as advertised. If you hear "I'm from the government and I'm here to help", you should be scared.
01-27-2009 10:22 PM
jpdocdave
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Originally Posted by whiteyj View Post
Between the what 16 states that don't play well now and our new President's stand on firearms in the hands of citizens it will never happen.
yep
01-27-2009 09:39 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by chezuki View Post
When you commit a felony, you give up rights.
And your point is?


A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
01-27-2009 09:32 PM
afrats I enjoy having a Concealed Carry permit and carry everywhere I go. This bill would be nice so I don't have to figure out when I have to put it away when I am traveling.
01-27-2009 09:13 PM
chezuki When you commit a felony, you give up rights.
01-27-2009 09:03 PM
skeeter Violent felons shouldn't be on the street if they're still violent felons.
Fix the legal system rather than violate our constitutionally protected rights.
01-27-2009 08:56 PM
chezuki
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That issue was brought up before and there was discussion of issuing a permit to anyone who wanted the piece of paper or (better yet) your valid Drivers License or State ID card being proof enough that you were legal to carry.
Well, violent felons can still have a Drivers License or state ID card.
01-27-2009 08:50 PM
rallykid
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Originally Posted by Unheroic Hero View Post
There's only one problem with that bill. Two states don't require CCWs to carry concealed. With that bill, people in those states will be SOL. It is a good start, though.
That issue was brought up before and there was discussion of issuing a permit to anyone who wanted the piece of paper or (better yet) your valid Drivers License or State ID card being proof enough that you were legal to carry.
01-27-2009 01:39 PM
Unheroic Hero There's only one problem with that bill. Two states don't require CCWs to carry concealed. With that bill, people in those states will be SOL. It is a good start, though.
01-26-2009 09:49 PM
whiteyj Between the what 16 states that don't play well now and our new President's stand on firearms in the hands of citizens it will never happen.
01-26-2009 08:53 PM
JCS05Rubi Yea, it is an AWESOME bill (Won't pass, but still a great step), but it won't help anyone in Maryland, California etc. Any state that either doesn't allow a statewide permit, or like Maryland, allowed a permit but only to those people tied to politicians, have a large buisness, or have 3 death threats recorded by the police in one year, this bill doesn't help at all unless you are traveling to a CCW state.

Either way, it is a great step forward, and someone really had a pair to try this under the current administration. They certainly have my full support, but I will be devoting my time to my current Fd up states problems.
01-26-2009 08:49 PM
birdhunter That would be great

You are in Calif right?
Aren't laws there very restrictive
01-26-2009 08:36 PM
ccain
National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Bill Introduced

Saw this on another forum and thought I'd share. This is huge... If it passes.

Damn, I miss my concealed weapons permit!

National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Bill Introduced
NRA-ILA :: National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Bill Introduced
H.R. 197: National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

Friday, January 23, 2009 U.S. Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Rick Boucher (D-Va.), recently introduced H.R. 197-- the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009"--a bill that would provide national recognition for valid state Right-to-Carry licensees.

The bill would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if the permit holder meets certain criteria. In states that issue permits, a state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. In states that do not issue carry permits, a federal standard would apply. The bill would not create a federal licensing system; it would simply require the states to recognize each other's carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses.

Senator John Thune (R-S.D.) is expected to introduce the Senate companion bill in the near future. Rep. Stearns has introduced such legislation since 1995.

Please be sure to contact your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121, and urge him or her to cosponsor and support H.R. 197
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