|12-31-2012 08:49 PM|
This is crazy. Sorry to hear about your problems.
I thought mine was bad because I had to rebuild the ECU to get it to pass emissions
|12-31-2012 08:02 PM|
You got a 13 year old jeep with a salvage title for a decent price.
It looks good,drives straight runs ok. Spend 2K for a body shop to try to straighten the frame? now thats crazy talk.
You did fine. Do some more research before messing more with the shims,looks like with some know how you could get things fitting good enough so only a close examination would show problems.
Drive it have fun and stop getting upset over it. Looks decent, if the price was right Id buy it even knowing everything you showed.
|12-29-2012 02:43 PM|
|krisbman||Copy. Would be unfortunate if it were to sustain severe damage in a tragic wheeling accident!|
|12-29-2012 02:29 PM|
The shims were between the hood hinge and the body bracket (I guess that's what you would call it) that the hood mounts onto.
|12-29-2012 02:14 PM|
|krisbman||Bummer dude. Id still peddle it and move on, and quit dumpin stop leak in yer radiator. Its just gonna EFF other stuff up also. Where exzactly were those shims, were they between the hood and the hood hinge?|
|12-29-2012 01:58 PM|
Here's a video update of everything:
Lifted 2000 Jeep Wrangler TJ Sport Update - YouTube
|12-29-2012 12:30 PM|
|UFOtestpilot||If the tub is racked too it seems like a 2.5 with mechanical issues for $3-5k might be a halfway sane idea. Take what you need to swap, part out and scrap the rest. Prolly end up costing $2-3k plus a good chunk of your time and some skin.|
|12-29-2012 10:19 AM|
|12-29-2012 09:45 AM|
|jherrington||Frames run about 2k if I'm not mistaken. Now, transferring everything, although I've heard it wasn't that hard, looks like it would be a bitch.|
|12-27-2012 11:52 PM|
I wasn't stupid when I bought it. I had it inspected, checked over, etc and everything checked out. I just never thought to have a body shop look at it. The shop that inspected it checked the frame like I asked and they said it looked fine. I'm not really mad or pissed off since I know I got it fairly cheaper than what most stock Wrangler's are going for around here. I would be lucky to find a Jeep with this low of mileage with a hard and a soft top for under $12,000. I'm more bummed than anything just knowing this will set me back some more.
Thanks for all of the advice and words of encouragement so far. I've considered looking for another frame/body but I want to see how much it will be to fix it as it sits before I really start searching.
Biggest thing for me right now is to get my truck sold to get some of this debt off my back before I start digging myself deeper.
|12-27-2012 09:35 PM|
|tbensor||man that sucks but I agree. If it runs good and drives straight keep it and have fun|
|12-27-2012 09:32 PM|
|JGreen06TJ||You've got some good advice here from people with much more experience than I have... I may be crazy, but if the motor runs well and if it's tracking straight down the road, I would probably live with the fitment issues, drive it and hope for the best. It still looks like a better vehicle than some my friends and I had in high school/college. Years ago we drove some not so great vehicles because that's what we could afford at the time. Just remain vigilant on parts wearing early or unevenly.|
|12-27-2012 09:04 PM|
Perhaps after you get the estimate for repair you can find a TJ that has absolutely nothing going for it, maybe one without a motor and/or trans, etc. just drive your twisted jeep and hunt for a theft recovery that has been fully stripped. Buy the frame and tub and get to know your new jeep very intimately.
The feelings will go away long before they turn to "good" on a deal like this, you just gotta find the most solid plan you can to make the best of it. Dust yourself off and roll with it. Easier said than done, yet possible. Good luck.
|12-27-2012 09:02 PM|
|12-27-2012 08:49 PM|
|12-27-2012 08:44 PM|
|dale 3||How long have you owned it?Bought at used car lot? Private sale?Any legal recourse? I got porked on craigslist private sale for my son.Payback will be soon!Got BALLS for payback?|
|12-27-2012 08:51 AM|
|Rolly32||Sorry about your jeep man.. I have had little experience in these types of cases but not in my jeep thankfully. If I were you, I'd pull that winch out, lights, and possibly the bumper and sell the rest of the jeep with the idea of purchasing another jeep to stick those parts into. You will probably rack up a large bill at the body shop and will probably leave you with big headaches in the end. It might just be easier to sell it and purchase a new tj|
|12-27-2012 07:58 AM|
|krisbman||Copy that, yeah. Hard way to learn a lesson.|
|12-26-2012 11:10 PM|
|KILRIK||No, the guy at the auto body shop was the one that felt bad for me.|
|12-26-2012 07:03 PM|
|krisbman||What guy felt bad? The guy that sold it to you, cmon!|
|12-26-2012 06:59 PM|
Took it over to the body shop today and had them look at it. They looked the whole thing over and said that it definitely had been in a front end wreck and had been hit a decent amount. They said it looks like the front end has been bent up from the impact. They didn't want to say it was diamonded but said that could be a possibility. The guy felt bad for me for having found this issue after buying it so he gave me a deal on having the measurements done and everything. I'm dropping my truck by there tomorrow to have a cable replaced in the door so while I'm there he said to go ahead and talk to them about scheduling something.
They said once they have it up on the frame machine is when they'll be able to have a better idea of how bad it is.
|12-23-2012 11:05 PM|
|UFOtestpilot||He means knocked into a parallelogram. As in the two frame rails are still parallel to each other, but the passenger side got knocked back a couple inches.|
|12-23-2012 09:23 PM|
If this was the case, would I just have to get all the other stuff fixed to make everything fit correctly or would I still have to have the frame fixed?
|12-23-2012 08:12 PM|
|krisbman||If its diamoned it will drive fine, which is the way im leaning by the looks of the sheet metal.|
|12-23-2012 08:07 PM|
I'm not necessarily trying to talk myself into keeping it, I'm just trying to see if it's worth saving since it has everything I've been looking a long time for and it's already in my driveway so I'll have to deal with it one way or another.
The body shop I'll be taking it to are a great shop that have very nice people working for them. We've taken multiple vehicles to them and have no complaints. I'll probably take it over there after the holidays and have them look at everything and price everything out.
The thing that confuses me is that it drives perfectly straight without any problems driving it down the highway. You think if the frame was as bent as it sounds, I would be driving sideways down the road?
|12-22-2012 11:38 PM|
|krisbman||It could cost thousands to fix it properly. Frame rate is somewhere in the $70 per hour range with a set up & measure fee around $150-200 most likely, then theres the body labor rate of around $50 per hour for panel alignment, mechanical rate if any hard parts need replacing, i.e control arms suspension components etc. honestly dude your trying to convince yourself to keep it. If the frame isnt square it isnt square, it will never be right unless it gets put on a rack and gets pulled around. It could be " diamoned" it could have a " banana" in it. Its hard to say without crawling under it and looking for buckles and putting a set of gauges on it. Hows the wheel base from side to side? Like i said before ive been in this trade for 18 years.your jeep was totalled and has been reconstructed. Either have it repaired right by a good body shop and try to get some sort of recourse on the people you bought it from or the insurance co. , or turn it and move on. With the latter being my choice. Sorry man|
|12-22-2012 11:14 PM|
You can see that someone has tried to align everything as much as possible with adjustments. You need to know what's tweaked exactly and how bad first. Secondly, you need to either be a good body/frame guy with proper equipment or be very close friends with someone who is. To drop it off at a shop and have them "fix" it would be salt in the wound to be honest.
This of course is from someone who is not a body/frame guy and hasn't seen the jeep in person. You shot some decent video if the lines though and I've seen enough "off-track scenarios" and the results enough to draw the conclusion I did.
|12-22-2012 11:04 PM|
There is no fixing. Fixing would mean replacing the frame, then replacing the tub and body.
We aren't trying to freak you out. Or make you think that you bought a POS. If its stable and the frame is in good shape (good non broken welds, no cracks) then I don't see why it wouldn't work for you.
It's just that since it has frame damage, it could potentially be a hazard to your health and break in you / not protect you like it was designed to in a crash. Or in your case, shit won't fit right.
If it is sturdy and everything checks out okay, I don't see why you would need to sell it. But that only if the frame is in good condition. I think most people are just worried about everything being out of wack from the wreck and parts starting to fail.
Wish you the best of luck!
|12-22-2012 10:48 PM|
|KILRIK||Talked it over with my parents and they said to wait until after the holidays and have it checked out by a body shop. I can live with small issues but anything major I'll have to see whether or not it will be worth it.|
|12-22-2012 09:35 PM|
If I went the route of fixing it, how much would we be talking?
This really sucks...
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