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02-05-2013 08:02 PM
ives
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Originally Posted by sr7376 View Post
Keep it and drive it. fix what needs to be fixed. It is safe and does not seem like it will fall apart.
This is the only posting that should have been on this thread. He's young, he's learned. Keep it. When/if you get a new one; swap over parts and sell whatever's left over.
01-31-2013 07:25 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by KILRIK
Should that be everything I need?

Also, since I'm having to replace the right shaft, I might as well ask. How much more would it be to upgrade to the chrome shafts everyone refers to?
I'm not 100% that its all you'll need, but it's a start and if it is all the parts, it's under 200 for them, have your mechanic give you a written estimate with exact parts and labor and then research will be easier.
Chrome-Molly shafts are pretty pricey, I think like 600+ for the pair, but they are nice, it's on my list.
01-31-2013 06:20 PM
KILRIK
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Originally Posted by JVLemur View Post
Should that be everything I need?

Also, since I'm having to replace the right shaft, I might as well ask. How much more would it be to upgrade to the chrome shafts everyone refers to?
01-31-2013 05:55 PM
JVLemur Check this out

Master install kit:http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-126...it-master.html

Carrier:http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-129...r-3-73-up.html
01-31-2013 05:25 PM
cntryboy232 That's good
01-31-2013 05:17 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by KILRIK
Talked to my mechanic today. Here were the problems with the axle:
Bearing are shot
Needs a new front carrier and the right side of the axle is done for. He said the gears are fine though. He's talking to someone to get parts from before he gives us a quote. I found someone parting out a Jeep and got most of the parts for all the other stuff I was needing for almost half what the shop was going to charge me. Now the whole axle thing won't hurt as much...
It's rebuilding your front, not too bad, if your right shaft is bad, you can just upgrade them from the oem.
01-31-2013 03:42 PM
KILRIK Talked to my mechanic today. Here were the problems with the axle:
Bearing are shot
Needs a new front carrier and the right side of the axle is done for. He said the gears are fine though. He's talking to someone to get parts from before he gives us a quote. I found someone parting out a Jeep and got most of the parts for all the other stuff I was needing for almost half what the shop was going to charge me. Now the whole axle thing won't hurt as much...
01-31-2013 12:31 AM
cntryboy232 I destroyed mine where it was cut the gears bad. It was slow get to speed but once it got rolling was good. I got a kit front and rear off eBay from a specialist in Las Vegas for 300 and were superior gears an then 300 to install them front and rear. Look online that will save you so much money then getting them to get the part and then install it. They will charge Msrp instead what they got it for. It could be your spider gears or what ever they are the smaller ones. You might as well open it up yourself look at them and see how bad it is. I got away with mine being like that for 6 months and was in rear. It might be shavings from gear change while back that never go all flushed out.
01-31-2013 12:11 AM
JVLemur Another route is rebuilding your axle, if its the innards it shouldn't be too expensive as long as the housing is ok.
01-31-2013 12:05 AM
KILRIK Just checked local and surrounding cities on Craigslist and I'm not finding anything. Closest I found was one with leaf springs that needed a ring and pinion for $250.
01-30-2013 11:36 PM
cntryboy232 I read the whole thing. My opinion is sell the soft top an hard top. You will like the rampage a lot better can be turned into bikini top. And frees up some cash for repairs. Most jeeps are like Legos. That's why I had 6 so far and I'm only 24. I love them. And best not to part things out takes while but I you find a cheap good d30 you can scrap your old one or sell it to someone needs the parts off it.
01-30-2013 11:31 PM
KILRIK Yeah, I know about some of the shady shops and the things they will pull. This guy is a good friend and a very reputable mechanic around here. I'll double check though. He said he was going to inspect it some more and see what the extent of the damage is before putting a quote on it. If it's a lot, I'll start searching for another Axle...
01-30-2013 11:01 PM
SeVeReDiStOrTiOn
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Originally Posted by KILRIK View Post
Correct, I have a Dana 44 rear, 30 Front.
Where can I get a 30 for $150-$200? That'll save me a crap ton of money. I was thinking I was out a good grand...
The mechanic said one of the gears is pretty much shredded (can't remember what gear exactly he said) and there were a few problems in the axles itself because of this. He said he wanted to look at it some more first but he's thinking the axle is shot.
If I can pick one up for $200, that would REALLY save me!
I'd ask him details and physically have him show you the damage. Differentials are a big money maker for shops and some shops aren't as honest as they should be.
01-30-2013 10:44 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by KILRIK
Correct, I have a Dana 44 rear, 30 Front.
Where can I get a 30 for $150-$200? That'll save me a crap ton of money. I was thinking I was out a good grand...
The mechanic said one of the gears is pretty much shredded (can't remember what gear exactly he said) and there were a few problems in the axles itself because of this. He said he wanted to look at it some more first but he's thinking the axle is shot.
If I can pick one up for $200, that would REALLY save me!
Check Craigslist, I've seen them around my area a lot and almost for free in decent condition, any year TJ or certain xjs will work, specially good are xjs since they're hp D30s

Example:http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/3576602700.html
01-30-2013 10:39 PM
KILRIK
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Originally Posted by JVLemur View Post
Hey man it's not too bad, you probably have a 30 front or is it a 44?
Either way a 30 will hold up and you can find them for about 150-200 ready to bolt in.
Correct, I have a Dana 44 rear, 30 Front.
Where can I get a 30 for $150-$200? That'll save me a crap ton of money. I was thinking I was out a good grand...
The mechanic said one of the gears is pretty much shredded (can't remember what gear exactly he said) and there were a few problems in the axles itself because of this. He said he wanted to look at it some more first but he's thinking the axle is shot.
If I can pick one up for $200, that would REALLY save me!
01-30-2013 04:37 PM
JVLemur
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILRIK
Sadly, I'm updating this thread once more.
Called my mechanic today to ask him if he could work with putting in air bags out of a Jeep that was being parted out. He said that would be fine but he went on to tell me that when he checked all of the fluids like I asked, he found shavings in the front differential and basically said that the front axle is toast. He said that one of the gears is pretty much shredded.

I guess most of you can finally say it now, "I told ya so!"
Hey man it's not too bad, you probably have a 30 front or is it a 44?
Either way a 30 will hold up and you can find them for about 150-200 ready to bolt in.
01-30-2013 04:33 PM
KILRIK Sadly, I'm updating this thread once more.
Called my mechanic today to ask him if he could work with putting in air bags out of a Jeep that was being parted out. He said that would be fine but he went on to tell me that when he checked all of the fluids like I asked, he found shavings in the front differential and basically said that the front axle is toast. He said that one of the gears is pretty much shredded.

I guess most of you can finally say it now, "I told ya so!"
01-24-2013 07:04 PM
tbensor good luck
01-24-2013 06:30 PM
KILRIK Hopefully the last update on the Jeep.
Took it over to our mechanic to have him give us quotes for the seals and everything because I don't have a lot of time right now to do it all myself. He looked everything over and to replace the right axle seal, rear transfer case seal (we thought it was the transmission but it's the transfer case), water pump (which decided to go out all of a sudden) as well as reshim the hood and fix the gas gauge (ended up being the sending unit in the tank) it was going to come out to $1,400.

One thing I didn't include in all of that is the air bags. We thought that the passenger air bag was missing when it was actually missing both air bags. He's pretty much going to fix everything on the Jeep that was messed up (minus the frame and tub). He tested the hard top and said the defrost and wiper were working.

He did notice one thing that really stood out to him, there's no inspection sticker. He couldn't find an inspection sticker anywhere on the car. Parents called the state and they are getting a full history of the vehicle and we're going to go from there to get back to the owner that rebuilt it and find out if it was even inspected to begin with. It's going to be a long process but at least we can get some of the money back...
01-21-2013 09:41 PM
sr7376 Keep it and drive it. fix what needs to be fixed. It is safe and does not seem like it will fall apart.
01-18-2013 08:52 PM
KILRIK
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Originally Posted by wrangler2326 View Post
I think your in luck man, sell the jeep with everything on it and just get out of it, if your parents will let you, I'd try and find one at daveys jeeps. Buy its super cheap, he has a 98 Over there now I've had my eyes on he's asking 2,800 for. After about $3,000 - $7,000 in mods or even more, depending on what your plans are with it you could have a bad ace jeep. Way more capable than the one you have now.
I bought mime 3 years ago, woke up one day and pulled the motor and trans. Pulled all the interior components and stripped this baby naked, now a year later I just accomplished pulling the tub and started on an ultimate frame upgrade to reinforce all major sections. Then it's gotta be sitting on some dana 60's sorry to brag I'm just super siked. But I'm a nut and in a year when it's finished I'll roughly have $35k in this thing. Some people like to buy and some like to build. If you are once a keeper your always a jeeper. Just sold my stock h1 hummer which would go anywhere my built tj will go and further dragging 5 tj's out behind it at the same time. But there was no fun in that anymore. Build or buy. Decide and then make the leap either way you can't go wrong with a jeep. Oh yeah.. And the whole frame ordeal, you don't have to do a complete swap - they sell sections. Welding shop would prob charge you $300 bucks to fix your frame. Taking the tub off took us 40mintes. Good luck
Not sure exactly which Jeep you're referring to from Davey's but I can't seem to find it. Also, Almost all of the Jeeps they sell are Salvage title Jeeps. If I get another Jeep, it will have to have a clean title to get more out of it if I'm ever forced to sell it. Maybe you haven't read most of the thread but I'm planning on keeping the Jeep and swapping parts over to a new Jeep when funds allow me to buy a new one. If I sell the current Jeep, I take a loss, lose all the parts and I have to start from square one (finding a D44 Rear Axle on a Wrangler around here is hard especially with my budget).

I never thought of having a weld shop split up the frame and weld back in sections. If the frame ever becomes a huge problem I MAY consider that but until then, I'll drive it like it is. As long as I can put tube fenders, bumpers and a top on it, I'll live...
01-18-2013 08:01 PM
wrangler2326 I think your in luck man, sell the jeep with everything on it and just get out of it, if your parents will let you, I'd try and find one at daveys jeeps. Buy its super cheap, he has a 98 Over there now I've had my eyes on he's asking 2,800 for. After about $3,000 - $7,000 in mods or even more, depending on what your plans are with it you could have a bad ace jeep. Way more capable than the one you have now.
I bought mime 3 years ago, woke up one day and pulled the motor and trans. Pulled all the interior components and stripped this baby naked, now a year later I just accomplished pulling the tub and started on an ultimate frame upgrade to reinforce all major sections. Then it's gotta be sitting on some dana 60's sorry to brag I'm just super siked. But I'm a nut and in a year when it's finished I'll roughly have $35k in this thing. Some people like to buy and some like to build. If you are once a keeper your always a jeeper. Just sold my stock h1 hummer which would go anywhere my built tj will go and further dragging 5 tj's out behind it at the same time. But there was no fun in that anymore. Build or buy. Decide and then make the leap either way you can't go wrong with a jeep. Oh yeah.. And the whole frame ordeal, you don't have to do a complete swap - they sell sections. Welding shop would prob charge you $300 bucks to fix your frame. Taking the tub off took us 40mintes. Good luck
01-18-2013 07:44 PM
JVLemur Very cool mate.
01-18-2013 06:28 PM
Toplessnlovinit Been following all of this since day one, also. Glad you get to keep it!
Happy Jeeping!!
01-18-2013 05:59 PM
SeVeReDiStOrTiOn RIGHT ON!!!! I'm happy for you man...that's one badass jeep.
01-18-2013 05:31 PM
KILRIK
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Originally Posted by cwalker84 View Post
Woohoo! Congrats man!
01-18-2013 05:30 PM
Kevinm2467
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Originally Posted by KILRIK
I GET TO KEEP IT

Drove the Jeep over to a body shop the 4X4 place recommended and the guy we talked to was a fellow Jeeper. He visually inspected the frame pretty much said as long as it drives straight and there aren't any noticeable bends, he would just drive it. We told him about the bend going throughout the frame and he said that it should be fine. As long as the tires are wearing evenly and everything drives fine, he said it would be safe and not a problem. He showed me his stock Jeep and offered my mom a ride in it if it would make her feel better about letting me drive mine. He said that his stock Jeep bangs around, makes noises and when he hits a bump in the road it sounds like a wooden roller coaster.

That made my mom feel a lot better knowing all the noises she was hearing are just a Jeep thing.

I talked to him about putting the MetalCloaks on and he said he didn't see a problem with that and worst case scenario I would have to widen a hold or redrill a hole to fit. I told him that I was planning on selling the hard top since it does fit and he offered to buy it once I'm ready to sell so I may give him a call if he truly wants it. Now I just need to reshim the hood, sell the hard top and buy the soft top hardware.
I have been following your thread since day one. Congratulations also!!!
01-18-2013 05:28 PM
cwalker84 Woohoo! Congrats man!
01-18-2013 05:19 PM
KILRIK I GET TO KEEP IT

Drove the Jeep over to a body shop the 4X4 place recommended and the guy we talked to was a fellow Jeeper. He visually inspected the frame pretty much said as long as it drives straight and there aren't any noticeable bends, he would just drive it. We told him about the bend going throughout the frame and he said that it should be fine. As long as the tires are wearing evenly and everything drives fine, he said it would be safe and not a problem. He showed me his stock Jeep and offered my mom a ride in it if it would make her feel better about letting me drive mine. He said that his stock Jeep bangs around, makes noises and when he hits a bump in the road it sounds like a wooden roller coaster.

That made my mom feel a lot better knowing all the noises she was hearing are just a Jeep thing.

I talked to him about putting the MetalCloaks on and he said he didn't see a problem with that and worst case scenario I would have to widen a hole or redrill a hole to fit. I told him that I was planning on selling the hard top since it doesn't fit and he offered to buy it once I'm ready to sell so I may give him a call if he truly wants it. Now I just need to reshim the hood, sell the hard top and buy the soft top hardware.
01-17-2013 10:46 PM
JVLemur Again, if you're planning on doing the 2.5, the manual trans missions will be either an ax5 or an nv1500 or nsg370 or the auto will be the 30rh or 42rle depending on the year. Only ones compatible are the 42rle auto or the 6speed nsg370 I believe.(something to keep in mind)

Also the spiderweb shade is awesome for the summer, reason I have my old soft top still, and run the spiderweb shade in the summer with no top or doors(I leave the SWS with the soft top in the winter)
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