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01-09-2013 12:21 AM
cmoens
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Originally Posted by elclipo View Post
SO I went and test drove the Yellow Sport this morning and I am now 200% sure the black one was the right choice. Should be in my hands tomorrow
Good, where I come from, if you shake hands the deal is done. No backing out.
01-08-2013 11:18 PM
pcwolf I tried to give a $500 check to the woman who sold me my Rubicon to hold it for three days until the Credit Union approved my loan. She said she didn't need a check to hold it, we shook hands on the deal.

If you backed out on a handshake for a purty color we would all know just what your word was worth
01-08-2013 08:32 PM
elclipo My car now is black and I agree, for show quality detailing it is a pain but not impossible. However, the Jeep is a toy for me and waxing and making the paintjob showroom quality is not a concern of mine.

If the wife goes for the JK as a family vehicle instead of the Sequoia she wants, it will be a light color.
01-08-2013 08:17 PM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by elclipo View Post
The first one (black) is a private seller. The second one (yellow) is a dealer. The black one is also lifted with 33s while the yellow seems stock with about 30k miles more. The dealer is asking $1600 more than what I have to pay for the black one.
Black one seems like a win in all categories here...
Depending on what lift it has installed

However,
My first Jeep was black and I will never by a black vehicle again. I LOVED the color... when it was dirty. but if you ever wash it, let alone wax it, it looked TERRIBLE with every little scratch showing up. Not even just like gouge scratches, but fine scratches everywhere.
Needless to say, my current is silver and looks clean when its dirty. Yellow will probably will be similar
01-08-2013 08:04 PM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by Steve305 View Post

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A man is only as good as his word! Unfortunately, by reading some of these posts, some think that their word isn't worth much. Don't be that guy.
Well said. And no, I won't be that guy :-)
01-08-2013 06:55 PM
Steve305
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Originally Posted by Jeep Dad View Post
Do to others as you would want others to do to you. Follow this and most likely you will be able to live with your decision.
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A man is only as good as his word! Unfortunately, by reading some of these posts, some think that their word isn't worth much. Don't be that guy.
01-08-2013 05:29 PM
B4Real
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Originally Posted by Wattapunk View Post
There's no written etiquette in the used car business. I'll be willing to bet that he would sell the Jeep to someone else in a heartbeat if they offered a little more with cash in hand today. Get the Jeep you really want and use the other potential buy for more leverage.
x2
01-08-2013 05:24 PM
spenserb
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Originally Posted by elclipo View Post
I have always believed that a handshake declares a done deal. At this point I guess the thread is moot since I never went to see the yellow one and already received news the title is ready for the black one.

The lift is on the suspension, not the body. The tub is flushed on the frame, I did verify that. The only thing I don't know for sure is if there are spacers on the springs or a full 4" on the springs. The axle is not a 44, I did look at the end bell to see the shape. It is a 35. I didn't check the gearing itself on the plate as it may have been re-geared with the lift.

Im wanting to put a suspension lift and 33's on mine hope everything works out for you
01-08-2013 12:28 PM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by Jeep Dad View Post
Do to others as you would want others to do to you. Follow this and most likely you will be able to live with your decision.
Yeah I know I would have felt like a douche if I broke the deal I had already. I talked to him last night and reconfirmed the deal.
01-08-2013 11:42 AM
Jeep Dad Do to others as you would want others to do to you. Follow this and most likely you will be able to live with your decision.
01-08-2013 11:05 AM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by whiteyj View Post
Ahmen! You'll only ever own one black vehicle in your life. Spent more time washing and waxing than driving.....at least that's what it felt like!
This will be my third black vehicle
01-08-2013 10:56 AM
whiteyj
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Originally Posted by krisbman View Post
I disagree. Nothin looks worse than black paint that doesnt match!
Ahmen! You'll only ever own one black vehicle in your life. Spent more time washing and waxing than driving.....at least that's what it felt like!
01-08-2013 10:42 AM
elclipo SO I went and test drove the Yellow Sport this morning and I am now 200% sure the black one was the right choice. Should be in my hands tomorrow
01-07-2013 04:31 PM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by spenserb View Post
hopefully a dana 44 look up axle identification charts on here or anywhere else, also read about running 33's on a dana 35 if thats what it has... I think you'll be alright. You probably have a body lift have you drove the vehicle yet? If not drive it and drive it HARD! make sure there is no vibration issues......All these points that i have made you can search on the forum and find all kinds of info. Thanks for your service btw.
I have always believed that a handshake declares a done deal. At this point I guess the thread is moot since I never went to see the yellow one and already received news the title is ready for the black one.

The lift is on the suspension, not the body. The tub is flushed on the frame, I did verify that. The only thing I don't know for sure is if there are spacers on the springs or a full 4" on the springs. The axle is not a 44, I did look at the end bell to see the shape. It is a 35. I didn't check the gearing itself on the plate as it may have been re-geared with the lift.
01-07-2013 04:07 PM
spenserb hopefully a dana 44 look up axle identification charts on here or anywhere else, also read about running 33's on a dana 35 if thats what it has... I think you'll be alright. You probably have a body lift have you drove the vehicle yet? If not drive it and drive it HARD! make sure there is no vibration issues......All these points that i have made you can search on the forum and find all kinds of info. Thanks for your service btw.


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Originally Posted by elclipo View Post
I'm not sure.

He's not very mech savvy. I have to go see the Jeep again to get under the axle to see if I can at least verify the stock. The lift was done as a package at the dealership about two years after he bought in in 1999 and has no specifics as to brands or whether or not it was re-geared.
01-07-2013 01:54 PM
Patrick H Where I come from, a hand shake has a lot of value. Just sayin'. I guess you could talk to the guy about backing out on a verbal contract and see how he reacts.
01-07-2013 01:44 PM
ztman
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Originally Posted by elclipo View Post
And that's why I feel dirty just thinking about it



I like everything you said.

That said, I am still here and not looking at the yellow one and the more I sit here the more I know I shouldn't
then go talk to the fellow that owns the black one, and explain what your thoughts are. He may say go for it. For all you know, he may have changed his mind or have another buyer lined up, win win. If he says a deal is a deal, then go black
01-07-2013 01:44 PM
Wattapunk There's no written etiquette in the used car business. I'll be willing to bet that he would sell the Jeep to someone else in a heartbeat if they offered a little more with cash in hand today. Get the Jeep you really want and use the other potential buy for more leverage.
01-07-2013 01:25 PM
krisbman
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Originally Posted by elclipo

And that's why I feel dirty just thinking about it

I like everything you said.

That said, I am still here and not looking at the yellow one and the more I sit here the more I know I shouldn't
Lmao, " dirty" its not like your cheatin on yer wife!!!
01-07-2013 01:22 PM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by ztman View Post
Your motto is "semper Fi." I assume you know what the answer is
And that's why I feel dirty just thinking about it

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Originally Posted by NC Bear View Post
Well, in my book you shook hands, the deal is done.

Now, having said that, I'd still go black. It is less, has less miles, probably has never seen dirt or sand, (as the prev. owner does not know so much about it) and already has a good portion of the mods done that you want to have done.

Keep in mind this opinion is coming from a man who has a black TJ who really likes the looks of a yellow TJ, and would paint his if'n his wife would let him!
I like everything you said.

That said, I am still here and not looking at the yellow one and the more I sit here the more I know I shouldn't
01-07-2013 01:15 PM
NC Bear Well, in my book you shook hands, the deal is done.

Now, having said that, I'd still go black. It is less, has less miles, probably has never seen dirt or sand, (as the prev. owner does not know so much about it) and already has a good portion of the mods done that you want to have done.

Keep in mind this opinion is coming from a man who has a black TJ who really likes the looks of a yellow TJ, and would paint his if'n his wife would let him!
01-07-2013 01:02 PM
ztman Your motto is "semper Fi." I assume you know what the answer is
01-07-2013 12:59 PM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
Then it's good I mentioned it.

I vote black. I have no idea how well the modifications were handled so I'll assume it's not completely messed up. Even then, it's cheaper and has fewer miles.
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Originally Posted by krisbman View Post
Oohhh, you have some leverage with the dealer then. Id opt for the black one though. Already lifted wheels/ tires and less miles if it were me though. Opinions are like assholes though everyones got one. Its all about what you want!
The more I read and write on this thread the more I lean in that direction as well
01-07-2013 12:57 PM
elclipo
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Originally Posted by spenserb View Post
what kinda axle/gear set up is on the black one?
I'm not sure.

He's not very mech savvy. I have to go see the Jeep again to get under the axle to see if I can at least verify the stock. The lift was done as a package at the dealership about two years after he bought in in 1999 and has no specifics as to brands or whether or not it was re-geared.
01-07-2013 12:36 PM
krisbman
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Originally Posted by elclipo
The first one (black) is a private seller. The second one (yellow) is a dealer. The black one is also lifted with 33s while the yellow seems stock with about 30k miles more. The dealer is asking $1600 more than what I have to pay for the black one.
Oohhh, you have some leverage with the dealer then. Id opt for the black one though. Already lifted wheels/ tires and less miles if it were me though. Opinions are like assholes though everyones got one. Its all about what you want!
01-07-2013 12:32 PM
Imped
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Originally Posted by elclipo View Post
The black paint is still pretty glossy except for a few faded spots. I'm sure I can clean and cover them but in the end I think the whole tub will end up flat black anyways. Saying that, a yellow one will require me to be more diligent with taking care of the paint I think.
Then it's good I mentioned it.

I vote black. I have no idea how well the modifications were handled so I'll assume it's not completely messed up. Even then, it's cheaper and has fewer miles.
01-07-2013 12:29 PM
beardedbrethren Just because you've already ordered doesn't mean you can't look at the menu.
01-07-2013 12:29 PM
dropzone I had a similar situation come up when buying mine. I kept my word to the 1st guy...I was happy enough with the deal to begin with so it all boiled down to keeping my word. Sounds to me like the better "deal" in on the black one...but it's only a deal if You like it.
01-07-2013 12:23 PM
spenserb what kinda axle/gear set up is on the black one?
01-07-2013 12:14 PM
elclipo The first one (black) is a private seller. The second one (yellow) is a dealer. The black one is also lifted with 33s while the yellow seems stock with about 30k miles more. The dealer is asking $1600 more than what I have to pay for the black one.
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