|12-06-2013 08:38 PM|
The VW's stick is spot on. The wrangler is nice but I scratched the hell out of 6th gear a number of times.
And as someone pointed before I have the click on third gear. It's as if something's crunching a syncro and such... So weird, I never got that before until the gear box was ruined. And it's doing it on a brand new car.
Don't even get me started on the USELESSNESS of the wrangler gear ratio. It's like a bunch of monkeys got together to design it. And don't even try to back up a manual on a steep grade without 4WD on. Did that and the clutch stank like hell.
Enough of my rant.. Jeep on !
|12-06-2013 05:28 PM|
|12-06-2013 05:02 PM|
After 25 years and zero clutch replacements I can see how taking my advice is CRAZY! So maybe I should rethink. Let's see. My way at idle let the clutch to the friction point. Take right foot from brake and give a little gas while releasing the clutch the rest of the way OR while the hill start assist is still holding brake pressure you increase RMP while releasing the clutch until what seems like an eternity that the computer lets the brake go. Nope still don't get why letting the clutch out at 800 RPM is worse than letting it out at 2000+ RPM!
|12-06-2013 08:47 AM|
|12-06-2013 08:19 AM|
"1 - hill assist sucks ass! OFF! If you know how to drive a stick than you know let clutch out to friction point and you can sit there all day on a decent incline."
I strongly recommend that no one does this, unless you want to replace the clutch really soon.
|12-06-2013 07:18 AM|
|12-05-2013 10:17 AM|
I also notice that from 5th to 6th you have to pull down and slightly to the right, it's not just a straight downward pull from 5th.
The first day I owned it I had issues finding 5th and 6th because I was used to a traditional silky-smooth Honda 5-speed. But I've really come to like this trans. It makes driving the 300 yards to work an adventure.
|12-04-2013 11:09 AM|
|12-04-2013 10:46 AM|
|12-04-2013 05:00 AM|
|12-04-2013 12:15 AM|
|ramp4ge||I like my NSG370. It's kind of clunky and makes the Jeep feel like a piece of industrial farm equipment, but I like that. Oddly enough it makes me feel connected. Kind of makes up for feeling completely unconnected to the throttle..|
|12-03-2013 08:41 PM|
|swanson||I don't think history will remember the NSG370 kindly. It was welcomed with unquestioning acceptance for years, but finally there are articles like this - Manual Meltdowns - Jeep Transmissions We Love To Hate - Jp Magazine that call it out for its unreliability. For a trade rag to call out a transmission in a *current production vehicle* like that is practically never seen these days. Maybe Chrysler greenlit it as their way to spur more Jeep sales when they introduce a new transmission. I thought they were ridding themselves of their Mercedes sourced stuff anyway. Does anyone know if you can get an AX-15 or Terminator installed on a JK? I find it depressing that, like the axles, if you want a reliable new Jeep you must deal out additional $$$$ because of the transmission.|
|12-03-2013 08:18 PM|
|12-03-2013 05:50 PM|
|ramp4ge||Mine's a 2010 and I'd also like to know how to turn the HSA off. I'm also seriously thinking about getting something to improve throttle response. The latency kills me.|
|12-03-2013 05:03 PM|
I have the same jeep as u
|12-03-2013 01:06 PM|
|skihoser||I must presume that an auto will down shift automatically on the same hill someone is trying to go up in 6th with a 6-spd. Please remember, 5th is direct drive, that is 1.00 ratio, and 6th is overdrive, almost .80. 1-4 are all under-drive gear ratios, so let your Jeep breath and never hesitate to shift it into 5th going up a long hill. It will love you for it LOL. By the way, when I merge on an interstate, I shift into 6th at 65. Still under 3k RPM Remember, this engine produces more torque at 1900 RPM then the 3.8 at any RPM. And, as far as shifting, I have had little problems. Many have said all the right words about getting used to our tranny and thats it. Its a Jeep. I love mine and oh yea, I'll be 72 next month.|
|12-03-2013 11:19 AM|
|12-03-2013 11:04 AM|
|baddandy||I hate this tranny, Definately not my TJs NV3550 anymore. Of course I won't go auto though. I can't shift it naturally, I have to think every shift. I've hit reverse going into 6th more times than I can count. Ditto not totally getting it into gear when shifting into reverse. Aaannnnd, I just can't seem to match rpm with clutch release to prevent a thunk 1-2, 4-5, and 5-6. At least I'm good enough to modulate the clutch to never stall it on takeoff! BTW, I removed one throttle spring after I bought it and that helped tremendously. Whenever I do make it from point A to B cleanly, I feel like I conquered something.|
|12-03-2013 09:23 AM|
|12-03-2013 08:42 AM|
|Gonzos Wrangler||Been driving mine for a few months now and no problems so far. 5th to 6th can be scary in the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it. I have not put it in reverse going from 5th to 6th yet. I guess the trick is to put some pressure to the right, but not too much.|
|12-03-2013 04:27 AM|
All is better now, I think. After a couple of weeks, I seem to be used to everything.
|12-02-2013 07:32 PM|
Alright got to drive the Jeep home in the snow today. That's one of the big reasons I bought a manual. Complete control when in the slick stuff.
Although the ESP is a bit much... c'mon I wanna kick the back end out!
|12-02-2013 07:17 PM|
|2013 gecko||Been driving manuals for over 30 years, turn that stupid hill assist off and these things are one of the easiest manuals to drive IMO.|
|12-02-2013 07:07 PM|
don't get the wrong idea here
|12-02-2013 04:45 PM|
I would have to say I am not a fan of the manual. I actually prefer my 99 TJ to my 13 JK. But this is what I think....
1 - hill assist sucks ass! OFF! If you know how to drive a stick than you know let clutch out to friction point and you can sit there all day on a decent incline.
2 - light pressure to passenger side and smooth as butter to 3rd
3 - larger tires make 1st feel better otherwise starting in second is the same.
|12-02-2013 03:55 PM|
|Vt rider||I had a shifting problem for about a week after getting my Jeep. I figured that I'd get used to it. Easy on the throttle, and easy on the clutch and not shifting at high RPM makes a difference. For me, what made the most difference is how far back my seat was. If it was too far forward, it was easy depressing the clutch (for starting), but shifting tended to be too abrupt. I moved my seat further back so that my leg is FULLY EXTENDED when starting up the vehicle so that the clutch switch is operated. It also allows for (at least for me) easier shifting because my leg isn't bent so much.....and I think that was what made shifting between gears so awkward or abrupt. So it's a little "stretch" starting the motor, but a lot smoother going thru the gears. Give it a try.|
|12-02-2013 01:48 PM|
The manual shifter and gas/clutch does have a learning curve in these things. I've driven sticks all my life and finally now that I'm over 1k on my 14 I'm feeling ok.
1. turn off HSA
2. either start off in 2nd or be 2500 + RPM when shifting from 1st to 2nd. Synchro's seem to work better at higher RPMs (and also consider a double clutch when cold)
3. It's really not a "blip" of throttle. Instead it's more like a resistor. Turn it on some then some more as you go. Not like my old Rx7 or eclipse, that's for sure.
4. Shift from 5-6 is not straight back. Instead pull with a slight \ angle. I've yet to hit reverse, but have hit the gate between 4 & 6th. Just takes a trial/error approach.
5. As others have said learn from your mistakes. 1 - 2 is the shift that bothered me from the go... now not really.
|12-01-2013 09:22 PM|
|jmmcw91||I have found for shifting back and forth between 5th and 6th at that 55-65 mph range if you bring it back to center first it goes in smoother..if that makes sense|
|12-01-2013 09:12 PM|
My neighbors always seem to be out when I do this and must think I'm a complete idiot. lol
|12-01-2013 07:38 PM|
I have ZERO problems with reverse in my auto and the 5 speed pulls hills very well in cruise. I am assuming that your Jeep that you had problems with Death Wobble was lifted as your current Jeep. Death Wobble is an problem associated with solid axles and is made worse by screwing with the original design parameters (ie...lifting it). Get rid of the solid axles and Death Wobble is no longer an issue...but who wants an IFS Wrangler? DW is also common with poorly designed or installed lifts or worn parts. Can't really blame Jeep for something caused by parts that they didn't install.
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