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01-28-2013 07:15 AM
Imped
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post


Imped, I read your build thread over on jeepforum (nice rig by the way!) how long did it take to get the control arms adjusted the way you wanted/needed them? Or was there really no trial and error?
I have set process I go through. It takes a couple hours working slow to get everything dialed in--caster, pinion angles, axles square and centered, bump stops aligned. Through that entire process, I don't measure arm length. I measure what's important.
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Originally Posted by BLK00TJ View Post
Plenty of big rocks out here at Rausch Creek. Have I hit my axle, yes. Driver error of forgetting what was in front of me or not paying attention to what I'd just run over and what line my rear end was taken. I've just not gotten stuck because of my axle.
I know, just giving you a hard time.
01-28-2013 04:24 AM
BLK00TJ
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
You need to find some bigger rocks.
Plenty of big rocks out here at Rausch Creek. Have I hit my axle, yes. Driver error of forgetting what was in front of me or not paying attention to what I'd just run over and what line my rear end was taken. I've just not gotten stuck because of my axle.
01-28-2013 01:37 AM
jordorunway
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
You need to find some bigger rocks.


Imped, I read your build thread over on jeepforum (nice rig by the way!) how long did it take to get the control arms adjusted the way you wanted/needed them? Or was there really no trial and error?
01-27-2013 04:38 PM
Imped
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Originally Posted by BLK00TJ View Post
In all the times I've been wheeling I have never gotten stuck on my axles.
You need to find some bigger rocks.
01-27-2013 03:46 PM
GlocksandJeeps
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Originally Posted by 2003 wrangler
Ok cool. I havent put mine on yet but i think they will be nice. By the way glocks and Jeeps is a good username. lol
Haha thank you, I only own the best!
01-27-2013 03:02 PM
2003 wrangler
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Originally Posted by GlocksandJeeps View Post
I have the Rancho's, love them. I run them 4 up front and 3 in the back, rides very well. Setting 1 all the way around was too soft.
Ok cool. I havent put mine on yet but i think they will be nice. By the way glocks and Jeeps is a good username. lol
01-27-2013 01:59 PM
GlocksandJeeps I have the Rancho's, love them. I run them 4 up front and 3 in the back, rides very well. Setting 1 all the way around was too soft.
01-27-2013 08:19 AM
JeepAddOns-Chris The Ranchos are a great shock. We've got a great deal on them as well. Also, BDS tuned Fox 2.0 shocks are an excellent way to go if you're going with a top end suspension like that.
01-27-2013 08:11 AM
2003 wrangler
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post
So I take it you have the currie 4" lift? What shocks do you have? Cause I know since I'm getting the currie lift, it doesn't come with shocks. Can anyone recommend good shocks?
I dont have the kit yet but I have it ordered. I have the rancho rs9000xl shocks with the rancho steering stabilizer. These shocks are 9 way adjustable, made in usa, and have limited lifetime warranty. I have no prior expierence with them so I bought just based on reviews.
01-27-2013 12:43 AM
Jeffreybomb
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Originally Posted by gus54 View Post
I suggest looking at the Goodyear Duratrac for decent off road capability with excellent on road manners, or the Goodyear MTR-k for excellent off road capability and yet very decent on road manners.
I have 33x12.50 Duratracs, too. I'm a big fan. I asked for some tire advice last year and received some good advice.

I liked the MTR-k, too. Being new to wheeling, though, I decided to go with a less expensive tire. I'd be a little less upset about screwing up a less expensive tire than I would be about screwing up something with a bigger price tag.
01-26-2013 11:24 PM
jordorunway
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Originally Posted by 2003 wrangler
Yeah and then you can put the lift on and not have to worry about it and it should be good for a long time. Good decision thats what im doing my lift should come in soon. And Imped correct me if im wrong you were saying that you dont worry about greasing your jj's on your controll arms and after 2 to 3 years you just take them apart and grease them? And this is how I look at it if i do what imped does, as he has more expierence in jeeps than me, and grease them every 2 or 3 years by taking them apart, this would be pretty much the first time having to screw with the lift components after the install hopefully and when you think about it some lifts sag after probably 2 to 3 years. Correct me if im wrong. So the way i look at it one could buy a rc lift and I could buy my currie lift and by the time im just doing maintaince on my lift in 2 to 3 years by taking the jj's apart and regreasing them, their lift may have already sagged and they would be replacing the shocks because they ride bad I have heard and the springs because they have sagged. This would save me more work and i will have a good suspension setup from the start. So thats my theory on it correct me if im wrong on any of this stuff. Thanks, Joey.
So I take it you have the currie 4" lift? What shocks do you have? Cause I know since I'm getting the currie lift, it doesn't come with shocks. Can anyone recommend good shocks?
01-26-2013 10:08 PM
2003 wrangler
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post
Ok dang, i must not have done enough digging/research on lifts, granted i never really looked at a RE kit, nor did i read any reviews on them, i just knew they were HOLY S*** expensive and I don't really want a long arm kit anyway. However after reading all of that, yea RE wouldnt be on my list of choices after that.

I basically decided a couple days ago that i would just go ahead and save up my money and get the Currie 4" lift. The way i finally figured i might as well do it right the first time instead of going with something else and doing this >>
Yeah and then you can put the lift on and not have to worry about it and it should be good for a long time. Good decision thats what im doing my lift should come in soon. And Imped correct me if im wrong you were saying that you dont worry about greasing your jj's on your controll arms and after 2 to 3 years you just take them apart and grease them? And this is how I look at it if i do what imped does, as he has more expierence in jeeps than me, and grease them every 2 or 3 years by taking them apart, this would be pretty much the first time having to screw with the lift components after the install hopefully and when you think about it some lifts sag after probably 2 to 3 years. Correct me if im wrong. So the way i look at it one could buy a rc lift and I could buy my currie lift and by the time im just doing maintaince on my lift in 2 to 3 years by taking the jj's apart and regreasing them, their lift may have already sagged and they would be replacing the shocks because they ride bad I have heard and the springs because they have sagged. This would save me more work and i will have a good suspension setup from the start. So thats my theory on it correct me if im wrong on any of this stuff. Thanks, Joey.
01-26-2013 12:38 AM
jordorunway
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Originally Posted by 2003 wrangler View Post
Yeah thats why i ordered the currie 4 lift. Here is some reading if you want to do some op.
rubicon express vs currie enterprises - JeepForum.com
Ok dang, i must not have done enough digging/research on lifts, granted i never really looked at a RE kit, nor did i read any reviews on them, i just knew they were HOLY S*** expensive and I don't really want a long arm kit anyway. However after reading all of that, yea RE wouldnt be on my list of choices after that.

I basically decided a couple days ago that i would just go ahead and save up my money and get the Currie 4" lift. The way i finally figured i might as well do it right the first time instead of going with something else and doing this >>
01-25-2013 05:51 PM
BLK00TJ Axle clearance is overrated. In all the times I've been wheeling I have never gotten stuck on my axles. Learn how to drive by putting your tires on the big stuff and your axles will magically rise in the air and go over the obstacle. Belly clearance is where it counts because when you drive over the obstacle with your tires, you get hung up on the skid plate.
01-25-2013 04:52 PM
techflork I know I've said this a lot in other threads but think about this, I was going to do a lift a run 33's and I was going to buy the savvy currie lift but I wasn't a fan of all the work and extra stuff I had to buy just to run it right. After research and reading and cost I found metal cloak fenders. They are mighty expensive, basically as much as the lift I wanted but they are 100% bolt on and I can run 33's without any other mods to make it work. I like the way they look and I get to run the tires I wanted. I can slowly work the sye, tummy tuck, then eventually an ome lift if I feel the jeep needs some better flexing. Just another way to go.
01-25-2013 03:01 PM
Imped
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Originally Posted by 2003 wrangler View Post
Yeah thats why i ordered the currie 4 lift. Here is some reading if you want to do some op.
rubicon express vs currie enterprises - JeepForum.com
One of the better threads of last year. If you want to learn some stuff, read through it with your glasses on.
01-25-2013 02:45 PM
GlocksandJeeps In regards to 4" lifts, I've noticed everyone is going to say every lift is junk unless its a 4" currie lift, which is probably very true. Currie seems to make some great stuff. That said, I ended up doing a pro comp 4" lift, Rancho 9000XL shocks, SYE kit, and RE adjustable track bar. I'm very happy with my kit, but I also am not much of an off roader. If I was, I would have went with the currie brand. It was just too expensive for a jeep that doesn't see the trails. I eventually plan on upgrading to their adjustable control arms down the road, but thats when money is more plentiful.

I've heard a lot of bad things about rough country though, so be careful. RE also have some bushing issues with their control arms, as do my pro comps (or so I've read, no issues yet). Rancho seems to get decent remarks. Those DPG kits get great reviews as do the Zone kits. I just did not want to do a body lift. Everyone will tell you something different, they are just trying to help and don't want you to end up with a junk kit. Take everyone with a grain of salt, me included, and when your shaker is full make your decision. Good luck!
01-25-2013 02:27 PM
2003 wrangler
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
And you know what's funny? The end result would be hardly any better than your original plan of using RC parts.

RE is junk, research.
Yeah thats why i ordered the currie 4 lift. Here is some reading if you want to do some op.
rubicon express vs currie enterprises - JeepForum.com
01-25-2013 01:54 PM
DevilDogDoc
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
And you know what's funny? The end result would be hardly any better than your original plan of using RC parts.

RE is junk, research.
Exactly what I thought when I read that.
01-25-2013 01:34 PM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
And you know what's funny? The end result would be hardly any better than your original plan of using RC parts.

RE is junk, research.
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01-25-2013 07:47 AM
Imped
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post
Well if I was gonna go that route and pay over $2000, I could just pay little extra money and get Rubicon Express lift.
And you know what's funny? The end result would be hardly any better than your original plan of using RC parts.

RE is junk, research.
01-25-2013 02:45 AM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by Dextreme View Post
While I agree that not everyone is made of money...we don't want to waste money either.

In deep mud/ruts/snow/sand, I would rather have a ~3" Spring Lift with no TC drop than a 4" Spring Lift with a 1" TC drop.
and yet a 4" with a TC drop will have the same belly height as the 3" no drop, but more articulation. The difference is, I can eventually buy a SYE down the road and gain it back, the 3" lift will have to change lifts. I fabbed my own TC drop, so it cost me some wknd labor and maybe a few bolts?
01-21-2013 06:03 PM
jordorunway
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Originally Posted by gus54

Whatever you want. I was just answering your above question on what I would do if I was in your shoes.
Yea I know, but hey, I do wish I had the funds to do that though lol.

I'm running 31" duratracs right now, I'm probably gonna move to a different tire they don't clean them selves as good as I thought they would, but they are still a pretty good tire, but I was thinking the MT/R like you said.
01-21-2013 05:28 PM
au97jeep I just installed moog cc784 coils up front and teraflex 2 inch rear spacers. This is on my 2002 6cyl manual tj. I used stock jk shocks. Total lift was 2.5 inches front and 2 in the rear. I have a slight vibration around 40mph now. I am going to lower the t-case with washers until the vibration stops. If you added a body lift on top, it would easily clear 33s. Here is a pic of the front coils compared to stock. These have the same specs as the bds front 2 inch coils.

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01-21-2013 05:26 PM
G54 As for tires, there is obviously always some trade off for on road wear etc when you choose a good off road tire. I suggest looking at the Goodyear Duratrac for decent off road capability with excellent on road manners, or the Goodyear MTR-k for excellent off road capability and yet very decent on road manners. Of the two Id choose the MTRk
01-21-2013 05:07 PM
Dextreme
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Originally Posted by K.wag View Post
because bigger tires and springs lift the lowest hanging part: the axles. That being said, the t-case drop is only an inch or so. you are still gaining 2-3" of lift.

And above all, not everyone is made of money. Not everyone can afford to spend the $600 on top of the lift to do SYE when a t case is a much cheaper option to get started and is easy to remove when funds are available for a SYE
While I agree that not everyone is made of money...we don't want to waste money either.

In deep mud/ruts/snow/sand, I would rather have a ~3" Spring Lift with no TC drop than a 4" Spring Lift with a 1" TC drop.
01-21-2013 04:47 PM
G54
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post
If you were in my shoes, what kind of kit would you be looking at? I'm open to anything at this point lol
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post
Well if I was gonna go that route and pay over $2000, I could just pay little extra money and get Rubicon Express lift.
Whatever you want. I was just answering your above question on what I would do if I was in your shoes.
01-21-2013 04:42 PM
jordorunway Well if I was gonna go that route and pay over $2000, I could just pay little extra money and get Rubicon Express lift.
01-21-2013 04:35 PM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by jburl View Post
Did you notice you have to drop the Transfer Case with this lift? Not sure why you would want to add longer springs and bigger tires just to loose all that clearance by dropping the TC? The non-adjustable LCA's don't do much for me either.
because bigger tires and springs lift the lowest hanging part: the axles. That being said, the t-case drop is only an inch or so. you are still gaining 2-3" of lift.

And above all, not everyone is made of money. Not everyone can afford to spend the $600 on top of the lift to do SYE when a t case is a much cheaper option to get started and is easy to remove when funds are available for a SYE
01-21-2013 04:25 PM
G54
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Originally Posted by jordorunway View Post
If you were in my shoes, what kind of kit would you be looking at? I'm open to anything at this point lol
Good friend bought RC and totally regretted it. I agree with giving Dirk a call at DPGoffroad. IMO, go with the OME 2.5" lift with 1.25 JKS body lift motor mount lift. NO t-case drop. Easily fit 33s. The BL will allow you to go with a high clearance tcase skid eventually as well as a better higher clearance gas tank skid. Once you lift the tcase though you will need the SYE/CV, if not before....depends on your jeep. Good skids should be high on your priority list if you plan to offroad it. His packages also include adjustable trac bars to center your axles, which will be off center after lifting. The high end package includes JKS control arms, although I prefer Rokmen CAs, JKS are pretty good. Here is a link to the best package, and it goes down in stuff and price from there. Old Man Emu Super Ultimate TJ/LJ Wrangler Kit | dpgoffroad.com
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