|01-23-2013 02:53 PM|
|01-23-2013 02:11 PM|
There are federal regulations that all manufacturers have to follow, I'm pretty sure that includes a weight sensor for passenger front seat.
|01-23-2013 11:10 AM|
Allowing someone to turn them off was a nice idea, but how many people thought about turning them on again if an adult was sitting there? I think the liability was the reason they got rid of them.
That's also the reason all the visors say to put kids under 12 in the backseat. My son weighs about the same as my wife's friend and is within an inch of her in height, he just turned 13 a few months back as well and is bigger than my mom. I would imagine my wife's friend was a lot smaller at 12. My mom was 5'3" and 107 or so. I would want the airbag going off if they were sitting up front. I think there needs to be some common sense taken when thinking about who's sits up there but how many people have that? Keep the little kids in the back, if they are the size and weight of a small adult they should be ok up front.
Lawyers are there to protect the company.
|01-23-2013 09:37 AM|
|01-23-2013 07:40 AM|
|WXman||Kids? What about those women you see sitting in the passenger seat with their feet propped up on the dash? What do you think is going to happen to them if the bags deploy? Their body is going to get folded up like a lawn chair. I don't think any of them think about that.|
|01-23-2013 07:35 AM|
|Scott in Houston||
|01-23-2013 12:40 AM|
|ibwile||Thanks for shining a light. I am digesting the manual and stumbling across a few "now where did they move this to?" moments as I am into the first months in a JK. Mostly I try to avoid comparisons to the TJ functions, but this one occurred to me the other day. I was looking in the EVIC to make sure I hadn't inadvertently turned off an alert/light related to the bags.|
|01-23-2013 12:19 AM|
It is always on...unless parameters in the collision determine that it is safer not to blow the bags.
There are too many factors to put into a warning or advisement. All of the vehicle's sensors combine to determine how/when to blow the bags.
In other words, the bags will not blow if there is a toddler up there or someone is leaning forward.
|01-23-2013 12:15 AM|
Sounds like the lawyers got behind the wheel. Lotsa "MAY's in there!
|01-22-2013 11:24 PM|
The owners manual has some good info. I believe this explains why you can't turn it off:
The Advanced Front Air Bags have a multistage inflator
design. This allows the air bag to have different rates of
inflation that are based on several factors, including the
severity and type of collision.
This vehicle may be equipped with driver and/or front
passenger seat track position sensors that may adjust the
inflation rate of the Advanced Front Air Bags based upon
This vehicle may be equipped with a driver and/or front
passenger seat belt buckle switch that detects whether
the driver or front passenger seat belt is fastened. The
seat belt buckle switch may adjust the inflation rate of the
Advanced Front Air Bags.
|01-22-2013 10:34 PM|
|Scott in Houston|
|01-22-2013 10:11 PM|
|01-22-2013 09:51 PM|
|ibwile||I've been wondering about this as well. In the TJ you could manually disable the passenger airbag for just this reason. Seems strange that it was a safety feature before and now gone- or am I misunderstanding how this is functioning now?|
|01-22-2013 06:44 PM|
|01-22-2013 06:23 PM|
She thanks you as well!
|01-22-2013 06:11 PM|
|kik||There hasn't been a weight sensor for the air bags since 2007. The driver's and passenger air bags are always on.|
|01-22-2013 05:52 PM|
|Scott in Houston||
I was able to make it to where mine no longer chimes, but just lights up. I can't remember where I read it on here, but it was some weird combo of turning the Jeep on and off again, latching and unlatching belts, etc. Now, no more chime.
That has no effect on airbag, but thought you'd like to know if it scares the dogs and becomes a hassle.
PS.... I found the link. Here's what I did...
|01-22-2013 05:40 PM|
|panthermark||There is some kind of weight sensor, but I agree, I don't know how it interacts with the airbags. All I know is that my wife's 8.75 pound dog plus her bed is just enough weight to screw up the seatbelt warning chime. Which of course makes the dog start to shake and get scared (loud beeps really scare her). I've starting latching the seatbelt, but I'll check on the airbag light in the future.|
|01-22-2013 05:33 PM|
|01-22-2013 05:30 PM|
|Scott in Houston||
I can't believe no airbag weight sensor in the 2013 JKU's ...
For long trips, I'd never have my 10 year old in the passenger seat, but around our neighborhood, I'd like to, but the airbag doesn't shut off. Really? On a 2013? No weight sensor? I know there's a sensor for whether or not there's a passenger because the seatbelt light will come on if the belt isn't latched, but if a light-weight is put in the front seat, there's no airbag light. By all accounts, it appears to be active. Am I reading this right?
Now, as I type this, there's something I haven't tried. If my kid is in the seat, and I unfasten the seatbelt, will the seatbelt light come on? Not sure, but if it doesn't, that means the airbag wouldn't be 'active' because it's not sensing anyone in the seat worth 'dinging' the seatbelt chime for.
On the way to work, I put my backpack in the seat, and it didn't ding at me like other cars do when you put a heavy bag in the seat. Maybe that means there is a weight sensor, but it only trips when there's heavier passengers, so if it's a light passenger, it doesn't activate the bag...
I dunno... anyone else with better information?