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01-28-2013 04:37 PM
bluejohnson He is asking a little much for it. But i have a 78 cj5 with a 360, 3 speed with 4inchlift with 33's. i can do 65 easly on the highway. got it up to about 85(max on the spedo) just to see what it could do. I use mine as a dailey driver when its not winter due to no heat in it. But i have the old manual steering and it drives fine down the highway. It gets alittle bumpy inspots but nothing to crazy.
Also i have that leak and it is the window seal i am almost positive. I took a water bottle and dumped it in various places and found it was the weather seal.
01-26-2013 07:10 PM
faultymechanics The jeep is mine, I now have a CJ daily driver. The transaction wasn't exactly smooth I traded the car and then began to look at the jeep. Had some rust issues, nothing frame related. The person before the previous owner painted over some rust with the flat black paint so I was able to get another 1200 bucks added to cover any repairs so I think I did good. engine runs like a beast, I have to get the high lift shackles out before I take it places though.

The first change i want to make other than the shackles are disc brakes, any suggestions?
01-25-2013 10:26 PM
faultymechanics What are you views on wheel spacers to help prevent rollovers with a wider stance, this question is to anyone willing to give their opinion and back it up.
01-25-2013 07:29 PM
faultymechanics Yeah he said 2" body lift or something. I will just return the shackles to stock and then just leave it, im sure it's enough. Should be a fun ride though. I just wanna feel high up. I like that and am going from a sports car.
01-25-2013 06:40 PM
MTJeepTJ A spring over will not help stability. Even with the lift shackles removed. Those are lift leafs on there i see in that photo. With a spring over and those leaves it will be very tall, probably 7-8" lift. Just letting you know.
01-25-2013 04:27 PM
faultymechanics Needs a respray on the hood, previous owner just did a flat black. I figure that along with changing the shackles or hangers or whatever and the windshield seal are easy fixes. From there I have a very cleanly modded cj7. Hang onto it and baby it and it will appreciate value nicely.
01-25-2013 03:54 PM
faultymechanics He said I can just take the spring hangers off and ill be fine.
01-25-2013 03:35 PM
faultymechanics How much are the stock ones? Is what's on it sellable? Can I revert the shackles and do an SOA for a safer lift with the 37s?
01-25-2013 03:03 PM
MTJeepTJ It is a piece of rubber under the window i believe and its easy to replace when the top is off. And the spring hangers he was talking about are those long ass lift shackles on the ends of the springs. I highly recommend taking them off and getting some closer to stock length. I have done a shackle reversal and didnt really care for it very much. The theory behind reversing the shackles is that the tire moves backwards and up and supposedly makes it ride better and stuff. But all it did for me was cause problems. Long lift shackles screw up front end caster angles and make jeeps drive like crap. I would take them off and go with the 33" tires and that jeep will drive great in my opinion.
01-25-2013 12:05 PM
faultymechanics Was also told occasionally when it rains hard some water may trickle down the firewall. Is this normal for them, seems like it is. He said the windshield seal is a bit cracked so I figure that needs to be replaced but that should be just the price of the rubber right?
01-25-2013 11:27 AM
faultymechanics Well I think what my plan is right now is to go forward with the trade assuming I like it. Also I can't drive for two months after Jan 30th for reasons unrelated to driving (stupid laws), so I will leave it at home in CT. Then this summer I will enjoy it as is around town and when the time comes to come back up to VT I will lower it (current owner said change the spring this a hard thing to do?) and put the smaller tires on. The owner said I should get a reverse shackle kit for the leaf springs, is this a good idea?
01-25-2013 10:40 AM
MTJeepTJ CJ's are great, that being said I restored a 74' CJ5 for my father and it has stock suspension and little 29" stock sized tires and 65mph is a handful. But the jeep CJ is one of the most fun to drive of any Jeep. I would go test drive it and see how it feels to you. If you like it, get it!
01-25-2013 09:35 AM
faultymechanics Why if it has a hard top and hard doors what about the winter will make it suck?
01-25-2013 07:32 AM
TiltMaster Too much money for what it is and you're committing to it as your DD. Too many red flags for me. A CJ like that would make a good 2nd or 3rd vehicle but I think after that first 4 hour drive in the winter you'll be kicking yourself.
01-24-2013 10:34 PM
faultymechanics Well I believe he said it had power steering, I will ask tomorrow. I think I will trade and then over the summer I will work on making it a bit safer for the highway. I know it's doable I just can't do it right now. I don't need the car in Vermont anyways so it will probably sit this winter out. Any advise on how to make it a safer highway ride? I'm very happy that the owner put in racing seats and harnesses cause that adds a large amount of safety when lacking air bags.
01-24-2013 09:41 PM
Goofyjumper Going 65 on a highway with an old CJ with 35's or even 33's and 6 inches of lift will be a white knuckle ride. If you are really considering this trade then I would go there and drive it on the highway so that you know exactly how it will feel. Even stock, these CJ's didn't handle that great at highway speeds.

The Turbo 350 is a great transmission and will do fine on the highway, it is the suspension and steering components that you will have issues with. What you will see is that a little bit of play in the front shackles will translate into a lot of wander on the road.

Does this jeep have the old manual steering or has it been upgraded to power steering? With large tires the manual steering can be hard to control and the old steering boxes develop a lot of slop in them over time. (Which will also affect you on the highway.)

I hate to steer you away from a CJ. I absolutely love mine, but it's not my daily driver, I don't rely on it at all, and I literally have put 1,500 hours into it in restoration work and modernization parts.... not to mention LOTS of money.
01-24-2013 06:42 PM
faultymechanics It has a 6 inch lift, do I need to worry about wind going 65 mph? That is what I am afraid of, driving normally and still dying.
01-24-2013 06:22 PM
faultymechanics I just wanna know if I will be able to take it on the highway with its current modifications. What have you guys experienced with it on the highway?
01-24-2013 05:25 PM
faultymechanics Well technically speaking by the book my car is valued at 6k. Also I asked what he felt was rough about the handling and he said: "It almost wanders because of the big tires you have to pay attention when driving it if you hit a pothole or something." Now I obviously will pay attention but is that something being wrong or just the jeep itself?

He also said the previous owner took it on the highway frequently for work or something. ALso comes with 33" tires so those would definitely help out a bunch on handling I would presume. It also has a Turbo 350 Trans in it. I figure that could handle daily driving and if I really wanted to beat on it I would convert it to stick anyways.
01-24-2013 05:21 PM
bc3_Jeep Money is money..... whether as an asset (car) or in cash......still not a good deal.... if it is too expensive....
01-24-2013 05:17 PM
faultymechanics Oh also this may help you understand my situation more. I am trading my car for theirs so it isn't a cash thing where i could just get a YJ instead.
01-24-2013 05:15 PM
faultymechanics Well am I still not going to be able to go 65 on the highway
01-24-2013 05:12 PM
bc3_Jeep Exact same set of issues with a longer wheel base....... I concur with the YJ comment.... unless you are dead set on a CJ....... this is STILL kind of expensive....
01-24-2013 05:02 PM
faultymechanics Alright, well to respond to your questions I will not have kids in the back though maybe the occasional friend (I'm 20, too young for kids right now). I would like them to be safe though if possible haha.

It seems like an old cj5 may be a bad idea so I have looked into this 1985 CJ7, what do you guys think?

1985 cj7 - $6500 (Torrington)

That one has a gear ratio of 4.10. Also it has never seen salt and is never driven in the winter. I feel like this one may be a better bet on the highway for those occasional trips. I believe the CJ-7 has a wider wheelbase? Let me know what you guys think!

Thanks again for the quick replies and help, I really appreciate it!
01-24-2013 03:56 PM
idiot magnet 35's and 3.73's are not ideal with a 4 spd transmission and your gas mileage is going to suck.
Have someone that knows something about CJ's go with you. Tons of hidden areas too look out for especially northeast winter driven Jeeps. I wouldn't pay 6K for a CJ5 from that picture on his ad.
I'd buy a fuel injected YJ before I bought that Jeep especially if you are doing any highway driving.
That wheelbase with those tires won't be fun to drive and you won't have a rollbar to protect any passengers in the back. Will you be driving with kids in the back?
01-24-2013 03:18 PM
Goofyjumper Looking at the picture, it is a Pre-'71 CJ. This means it has a VERY short wheelbase at 80.5" and the narrow frame. These older jeeps are re-known for the frame cracking if they have been off-roaded a bunch and you will need to check the frame for rust being that it is a northeast jeep. Dana 20 transfer cases leak gear oil like it is going out of style.

$6000 is also a very high price for a jeep this old. I wouldn't spend over 3k for an early CJ unless it was in mint condition.

I bought my '74 CJ-5 last year in running condition for $2500 and I think I over paid for it.
01-24-2013 02:36 PM
faultymechanics Yeah I will definitely be taking it for a test drive. Another slight issue is the fact that it has no heat. Is that a big deal to put in?
01-24-2013 02:30 PM
bc3_Jeep ratio is good...... I would fear "hard to handle" coming from someone WANTING to sell you a vehicle.

Have you driven it yourself???? This handling issue could be "death Wobble" and THAT can kill you at speed...... and will not go away without modifications that can run 1000s if you cannot do it yourself.

You should take someone with you who knows what they are talking about.
01-24-2013 02:24 PM
faultymechanics 3.73 gear in axles, that is pretty low....ratio should allow me to go 70, no?
01-24-2013 01:49 PM
faultymechanics Alright here are the details. The driveshafts are tom woods custom drive shafts...he said the gears are what is inside the front and rear axle housing but I asked for the ratios. He did the motor swap with his boss at his shop and there is no rust, it is a fiberglass body. Whatcha think? Thanks again I don't wanna screw myself over.
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