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02-21-2014 09:49 AM
DallasJKU
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Originally Posted by JK LOL View Post
Dallas, if you do go that route, please post your findings - I am in the same boat as far as, I know I want RS9000 shocks, but I thought I wanted the AEV 2.5 lift, too. Too bad you can't just get that lift without shocks - but I get it.
There are days I'm really happy with the lift. I just know it could be a lot better. I will probably change suspension to EVO Enforcer soon so I just have to weigh out what I really want to do. The AEV is fine for what I do daily.
02-21-2014 09:06 AM
JK LOL Dallas, if you do go that route, please post your findings - I am in the same boat as far as, I know I want RS9000 shocks, but I thought I wanted the AEV 2.5 lift, too. Too bad you can't just get that lift without shocks - but I get it.
02-21-2014 12:52 AM
DallasJKU I think I will be testing out the Rancho's when they go on sale again with my AEV. I like, but don't love my AEV ride quality. I run a pretty light Jeep though. I like the idea of being able to adjust the shocks though.
06-29-2013 10:13 PM
Phaedrus
Another Update

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
AEV said "no way" should I go with a different shock on the 2.5" lift kit. The Bilstien's were specially tuned for that lift on their test track. They told me to re-torque all bolts with the Jeep on the ground. The bolts were torqued on the ground at installation and twice after that. I have now installed Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks and I am "shocked" at how much better the ride is. Not only is the ride improved, but the handling and controllability are much better. Most remarkable is how much better rebound dampening is. That was an unexpected surprise. After crossing a dip or going over a hump my Jeep levels out immediately, without the extra rebound hop that I experienced with the Bilstein shocks. I am in love with my Jeep again!!! The Rancho 9000's can be bought with a $100 rebate through the end of June.
In addition to the advantages of the Rancho 9000's I posted above, I found the following advantage today. We drove about 40 miles of hilly and winding gravel road that was badly wash-boarded. On this same road in the past, with the Bilstien shocks, the Jeep rear end was constantly breaking loose and sliding out sideways. I would have to take my foot off of the accelerator completely to regain control. With the Rancho 9000's the rear tires stayed firmly planted on the road with no issues of controllability. The difference was remarkable.
06-26-2013 10:37 PM
MrOutlier
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Originally Posted by COStrider View Post
The AEV lift kit works best with more weight on it. It was designed for a front bumper and winch, rear bumper carrier, rock sliders, and gear. I've been slowly adding these components and it just keeps getting better. Is it perfect? No, but all around its the best ride in a lifted vehicle I've had. When I tow, it's mind blowing how good it rides too. I have not run it with the 9000's though. I feel I'd always be fiddling around with the shock settings if I had that option and for how varied my loads are that would be exhausting. I'm stoked with the AEV and Bilstein 5160's combo.
I'm running the 3.5" lift with 35's and 5160's. Also have a lot weight added with accessories and agree, the ride just gets better. AEV dialed it in perfect.
06-25-2013 10:29 AM
COStrider The AEV lift kit works best with more weight on it. It was designed for a front bumper and winch, rear bumper carrier, rock sliders, and gear. I've been slowly adding these components and it just keeps getting better. Is it perfect? No, but all around its the best ride in a lifted vehicle I've had. When I tow, it's mind blowing how good it rides too. I have not run it with the 9000's though. I feel I'd always be fiddling around with the shock settings if I had that option and for how varied my loads are that would be exhausting. I'm stoked with the AEV and Bilstein 5160's combo.
06-23-2013 02:03 PM
Phaedrus
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Lol... "No way"
I read that as "buy our shocks only"
I'm sure that is exactly what AEV meant. It did not help their credibility with me.
06-23-2013 09:37 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
AEV said "no way" should I go with a different shock on the 2.5" lift kit. The Bilstien's were specially tuned for that lift on their test track. They told me to re-torque all bolts with the Jeep on the ground. The bolts were torqued on the ground at installation and twice after that. I have now installed Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks and I am "shocked" at how much better the ride is. Not only is the ride improved, but the handling and controllability are much better. Most remarkable is how much better rebound dampening is. That was an unexpected surprise. After crossing a dip or going over a hump my Jeep levels out immediately, without the extra rebound hop that I experienced with the Bilstein shocks. I am in love with my Jeep again!!! The Rancho 9000's can be bought with a $100 rebate through the end of June.
Lol... "No way"
I read that as "buy our shocks only"
06-22-2013 10:20 PM
Phaedrus AEV said "no way" should I go with a different shock on the 2.5" lift kit. The Bilstien's were specially tuned for that lift on their test track. They told me to re-torque all bolts with the Jeep on the ground. The bolts were torqued on the ground at installation and twice after that. I have now installed Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks and I am "shocked" at how much better the ride is. Not only is the ride improved, but the handling and controllability are much better. Most remarkable is how much better rebound dampening is. That was an unexpected surprise. After crossing a dip or going over a hump my Jeep levels out immediately, without the extra rebound hop that I experienced with the Bilstein shocks. I am in love with my Jeep again!!! The Rancho 9000's can be bought with a $100 rebate through the end of June.
01-26-2013 04:15 PM
Phaedrus
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Originally Posted by RICHINBOCA View Post
I would call the guys at AEV to discuss with them. They are really helpful and since you are already have an AEV set up
it certainly wouldn't hurt.
Btw is the shop that installed an approved AEV shop? If not.... That may be the problem.
Good idea. I have spoken to the guys at AEV a few times and they are very helpful. In fact I checked with them to make sure the shop that would be doing the install was qualified. AEV was familiar with the shop and recommended them.
01-26-2013 01:45 PM
RICHINBOCA I would call the guys at AEV to discuss with them. They are really helpful and since you are already have an AEV set up
it certainly wouldn't hurt.
Btw is the shop that installed an approved AEV shop? If not.... That may be the problem.
01-26-2013 11:29 AM
COStrider
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Originally Posted by paleh0rse
I was just picturing the canyons and trails I wheeled in northern NM (near Silver City). Those were definitely more rocky and rough than simple fire roads or dirt trails.

If I'm wrong, and the trails are mostly flat where he's going, then yes the AEV could handle them.

I just can't picture wheeling in the Southwest without rocks and a more capable kit, though...
Rocky and rough is a good definition of Teluirde and Ouray and Silverton. After all we are talking near maximum vertical elevation in the Rocky Mountains. Black Bear trail/pass 12,840

CAPABLE is subjective. Lol

Would I take the AEV where I took the TeraFlex 6" LCG MAX, no, but that is the difference between rock crawling and trail riding in the southwest (Colorado). There are many trails in Colorado, and the AEV is quite capable of tackling them. Is it capable of a boulder field, not sure if I'd even try and it really depends on the lines available. The RK kits is probably geared for that from what I have seen and read.

Heck, the stock rubicon setup is very capable on the Rubicon Trial even. I saw many stock wranglers running it with hard doors and hard tops, not sure that's the brightest idea but works for some!
01-26-2013 10:51 AM
Phaedrus
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Originally Posted by Moabite View Post
I've had Rancho 9000's on several vehicles and have always thought they were fantastic. However, I have the AEV/Bilstein setup on the JK and at this point, don't see a real need to change...but I only have 1200 miles on it so far. I had a Teraflex 4-inch lift with Teraflex shocks on my TJ and finally got tired of it beating the crap out of me so I installed the Ranchos. It was like getting a new vehicle...completely different...much better. Personally, I don't think you could go wrong with the 9000s. If I do switch shocks, it will definitely be to the Ranchos.
Thanks for the feedback! I've got about 6000 miles on the AEV lift now. I thought the ride was pretty good to begin with. With some miles under my belt, I'm still pretty happy with it, just not as happy as I was in the beginning. It is not bad by any means (better than stock) but I think it could be better, for differing conditions, with adjustable shocks. I'll guess I'll spend the money and see.
01-26-2013 09:56 AM
Moabite I've had Rancho 9000's on several vehicles and have always thought they were fantastic. However, I have the AEV/Bilstein setup on the JK and at this point, don't see a real need to change...but I only have 1200 miles on it so far. I had a Teraflex 4-inch lift with Teraflex shocks on my TJ and finally got tired of it beating the crap out of me so I installed the Ranchos. It was like getting a new vehicle...completely different...much better. Personally, I don't think you could go wrong with the 9000s. If I do switch shocks, it will definitely be to the Ranchos.
01-26-2013 09:55 AM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by COStrider View Post

Isn't RK more of a Rock Krawler kit (sp intentional)? And AEV more for trail riding like never2old said he'd be doing? Those trails in Ouray/Teluride are more trail riding than rock crawling? That's the way I remember them from the year before last.

Why do you recommend the RK based on his needs?
I was just picturing the canyons and trails I wheeled in northern NM (near Silver City). Those were definitely more rocky and rough than simple fire roads or dirt trails.

If I'm wrong, and the trails are mostly flat where he's going, then yes the AEV could handle them.

I just can't picture wheeling in the Southwest without rocks and a more capable kit, though...
01-26-2013 09:42 AM
Phaedrus
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Originally Posted by Never2Old View Post
Phaedrus, In retro spec, would have you choosen differently? I've narrowed my options to either the AEV 2 1/2" or the Rock Krawler 2 1/2" max travel. looking for a real opinion, Iv've just picked up a '13 JKUR to outfit.

I'm not a rock crawler, and AEV does not represent their lift as a rock crawler suspension. From what I have read the RK is designed more for agressive off road use, and the ride is more stiff because of the springs that are used. That is why I did not, and would not, choose the RK. I do spend lots of time off road however, so I'm looking for shocks that I can adjust between street and trail use. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with the Rancho 9000 adjustable shock with the AEV lift. I'm pretty sure I will experiment with something other than the shocks that AEV supplied.
01-26-2013 02:04 AM
COStrider
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus
Has anyone combined the AEV 2.5” DualSport lift with Rancho RS9000 adjustable shocks? I have had the AEV lift, with geometry correction brackets, on my JKU for about six months. Also running 285/70/17 DuraTracs inflated to 28 psi on Rugged Ridge wheels.
Despite AEV’s claim that they worked with Bilstein to develop shocks specifically for this 2.5” lift, I must say that I am not impressed with the ride. I initially liked the Bilsteins, but the more miles I go I have decided that they are only passable off road, and much too choppy on road. They seem to be a compromise that do not work really well in either situation. I’ve heard good things about the Rancho 9000’s and hope that they might be more versatile. Anyone have experience or thoughts on this set up?
Do you have the 5160 or 5100?

The shop accidentally put the 5100's on even though I purchased the 5160 AEV kit. They said they'd order the 5160's and in the meantime see what I thought of the 5100's bc they thought they were pretty equivalent except high speeds offroad (where they said the 5160's would out perform the 5100's)

I read up on the 5160's and wanted to go as originally planned. I feel the 5160's are definitely a better performing shock on road too.

Check out article out:

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...e/viewall.html

I will say the bilstein 5160's are firm but are much more responsive both on and offroad. Maybe you want to consider this option?

Keep us updated as to your decision.

A Rancho 9000 review on the AEV would be awesome!
01-26-2013 01:43 AM
COStrider
Quote:
Originally Posted by paleh0rse
Then go with the RK kit and never look back. Even if you don't plan on crawling boulders, it sounds like you're in an area better suited for the RK than the AEV...
Isn't RK more of a Rock Krawler kit (sp intentional)? And AEV more for trail riding like never2old said he'd be doing? Those trails in Ouray/Teluride are more trail riding than rock crawling? That's the way I remember them from the year before last.

Why do you recommend the RK based on his needs?
01-26-2013 01:17 AM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by Never2Old View Post
My jeep has replaced my DD but live in NW New Mexico, close to a lot of trails around Silverton/Ourey/Teluride, not big on the rock crawling even though have done some around Moab. But targeting mostly trail rides over various high passes.
Then go with the RK kit and never look back. Even if you don't plan on crawling boulders, it sounds like you're in an area better suited for the RK than the AEV...
01-26-2013 12:20 AM
Never2Old My jeep has replaced my DD but live in NW New Mexico, close to a lot of trails around Silverton/Ourey/Teluride, not big on the rock crawling even though have done some around Moab. But targeting mostly trail rides over various high passes.
01-25-2013 11:45 PM
paleh0rse
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Originally Posted by Never2Old View Post
Phaedrus, In retro spec, would have you choosen differently? I've narrowed my options to either the AEV 2 1/2" or the Rock Krawler 2 1/2" max travel. looking for a real opinion, Iv've just picked up a '13 JKUR to outfit.
That entirely depends on what kind of off-roading you plan on doing, if any.

The RK and AEV kits are each designed with different priorities in mind...
01-25-2013 11:37 PM
kjeeper10
01-25-2013 11:15 PM
Never2Old Phaedrus, In retro spec, would have you choosen differently? I've narrowed my options to either the AEV 2 1/2" or the Rock Krawler 2 1/2" max travel. looking for a real opinion, Iv've just picked up a '13 JKUR to outfit.
01-25-2013 10:16 PM
Phaedrus
AEV 2.5" Lift with Rancho 9000's ??

Has anyone combined the AEV 2.5Ē DualSport lift with Rancho RS9000 adjustable shocks? I have had the AEV lift, with geometry correction brackets, on my JKU for about six months. Also running 285/70/17 DuraTracs inflated to 28 psi on Rugged Ridge wheels.
Despite AEVís claim that they worked with Bilstein to develop shocks specifically for this 2.5Ē lift, I must say that I am not impressed with the ride. I initially liked the Bilsteins, but the more miles I go I have decided that they are only passable off road, and much too choppy on road. They seem to be a compromise that do not work really well in either situation. Iíve heard good things about the Rancho 9000ís and hope that they might be more versatile. Anyone have experience or thoughts on this set up?

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