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02-05-2013 02:04 PM
i82much Yeah this is starting to become awfully clear. I just found out I can get 0.49% @ 48 months, I mean why not if I can swing it.
02-05-2013 02:03 PM
kappaknight
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Originally Posted by ratchettt View Post
Read your whole thread. Buy the Rubicon. Install a M.O.R.E. dead pedal, RuggedRidge grab handles and floor mats. You will be set for life with no more mods (odds are) and you'll never look back.

My opinion.
...and replace your headlights.

...and....
02-05-2013 01:50 PM
ratchettt Read your whole thread. Buy the Rubicon. Install a M.O.R.E. dead pedal, RuggedRidge grab handles and floor mats. You will be set for life with no more mods (odds are) and you'll never look back.

My opinion.
02-04-2013 11:12 PM
Snazzmeister
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Originally Posted by i82much View Post
Yeah I am definitely going auto this time, more for towing than anything else. Honestly I love stick shifts but you get such a crappy warranty on the clutch. I have another car with a stick so I'll still get to scratch that itch.

I have used the lockers and discos on my two door. They were probably overkill in the situations where I used them, but ya never know. That said, I really don't think there have been too many times somebody has driven down a forest road in a Sport and turned around thinking "damn, I should have gotten the Rubi."
To be fair, the 6 speed is pretty terrible as well. I learned to drive on a stick and have driven everything from dumps to performance tuned cars and never stalled one so much.

If it makes sense for your wallet, I'd go rubi then. Better to have and not need than need and not have after all. Resale is definitely higher as evident in my trade in. Keep in mind, dealers have an extremely hard time getting them so you have an extra chip at the bargaining table.
02-04-2013 11:01 PM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by i82much View Post
So did you go through kind of a similar analysis when you bought yours?
Of course. It's all part of the fun of the "Buying Experience" but most do not want to get into that part.
02-04-2013 10:57 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by Snazzmeister View Post
From someone who just traded in their 2 door rubi for a 4 door sport, I might be a bit biased but I would base your decision on what you are actually going to be doing with the vehicle. When I first got my rubi, I was all about the ediscos and locking rear diff. Who wouldn't want to go exploring the far reaches and drive places that leaves drivers of other vehicles left kicking rocks?

For me, unfortunately, while I would love to get to use them on a regular basis, my job kept me from going wheeling but one time for the entire time I owned the vehicle. Meanwhile, I had to put up with the daily hassle of the manual in stop and go traffic and the limited room of the 2dr. What I did do with it, go to the beach, lake, and camping with it, could have been accomplished sans rubicon equipment and would have been much easier with the 4 door with the gf, dog, and luggage.

I was able to trade that same rubi for a 4 door sport and put a lift and tires on. My lift has sway bar discos so what I'm missing in axle and rear diff, I make up for in functionality. (for me at least)

I guess what I'm trying to say is to be realistic, either way, it's hard to regret buying a jeep.
Yeah I am definitely going auto this time, more for towing than anything else. Honestly I love stick shifts but you get such a crappy warranty on the clutch. I have another car with a stick so I'll still get to scratch that itch.

I have used the lockers and discos on my two door. They were probably overkill in the situations where I used them, but ya never know. That said, I really don't think there have been too many times somebody has driven down a forest road in a Sport and turned around thinking "damn, I should have gotten the Rubi."
02-04-2013 10:47 PM
Snazzmeister From someone who just traded in their 2 door rubi for a 4 door sport, I might be a bit biased but I would base your decision on what you are actually going to be doing with the vehicle. When I first got my rubi, I was all about the ediscos and locking rear diff. Who wouldn't want to go exploring the far reaches and drive places that leaves drivers of other vehicles left kicking rocks?

For me, unfortunately, while I would love to get to use them on a regular basis, my job kept me from going wheeling but one time for the entire time I owned the vehicle. Meanwhile, I had to put up with the daily hassle of the manual in stop and go traffic and the limited room of the 2dr. What I did do with it, go to the beach, lake, and camping with it, could have been accomplished sans rubicon equipment and would have been much easier with the 4 door with the gf, dog, and luggage.

I was able to trade that same rubi for a 4 door sport and put a lift and tires on. My lift has sway bar discos so what I'm missing in axle and rear diff, I make up for in functionality. (for me at least)

I guess what I'm trying to say is to be realistic, either way, it's hard to regret buying a jeep.
02-04-2013 10:44 PM
Rumba-con Another thing to consider is that if you get a Sport and then wind up doing a bunch of mods, your insurance isn't going to cover them. Mine didn't before my '99 was stolen and I didn't want to be in that spot again. So, partly for that reason I bought the Rubi.

And also, I should mention that I found a Rubi that had been sitting on the dealer lot for a really long time so they REALLY wanted to get rid of it. I think that the color (deep red) hasn't been very popular in Kalifornia. I wound up getting it for WAY below invoice. If you could find a Rubi that's been sitting, you might be able to put your rationalizing mind to rest OTOH, you could also possibly find a Sport that needs to be moved, too (shh!!! don't tell yourself!!!) Best of luck!
02-04-2013 10:16 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by RKracing View Post
It was about $2,300 difference on our 2010. The remote start back in 2010 was 200....and now it is at 500.....sticker price that is.
So did you go through kind of a similar analysis when you bought yours?
02-04-2013 10:15 PM
Dew
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Originally Posted by bullcrew View Post
I'll have to remember the SPG lol that's good...

Bicycle point I ride a pivot phoenix race dh and free ride as well as a m9 I sold and yet I put a different tire on them and ride road with them to train on what I race as well as commute...my builds are extremely pricey and i f it weren't for sponsors and industry I wouldn't pay for their worth...!

Yes my wife thinks bikes are for kids lol. (A lot of guys I ride with are 35+ and do big drops and jumps too)
who's your sponsors?
02-04-2013 10:14 PM
RKracing
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Originally Posted by i82much View Post
Yeah I did the calculations with 3k difference USAA to MSRP but then edited to 2.5k but forgot to update the calculations. There were some very ballparkish numbers in the first post but if the methodology makes sense then I think the numbers are close enough for my purposes. As long as I'm not forgetting some major factor I should be considering, that is.
It was about $2,300 difference on our 2010. The remote start back in 2010 was 200....and now it is at 500.....sticker price that is.
02-04-2013 10:13 PM
bullcrew
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Originally Posted by Dew View Post
true... and a bicycle can be looked upon as a toy for kids. But some people commute to work on their bikes.

And remember the saying, "All work and no play..." sometimes you need to write off the piss poor MPG and invest in the SPG. (smiles per gallon!)
I'll have to remember the SPG lol that's good...

Bicycle point I ride a pivot phoenix race dh and free ride as well as a m9 I sold and yet I put a different tire on them and ride road with them to train on what I race as well as commute...my builds are extremely pricey and i f it weren't for sponsors and industry I wouldn't pay for their worth...!

Yes my wife thinks bikes are for kids lol. (A lot of guys I ride with are 35+ and do big drops and jumps too)

Yes I understand the cost and wanting to know where your moneys going....so good luck and look forward to seeing your new purchase.
02-04-2013 10:09 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by RKracing View Post
I believe it is about a $2,800 difference.
Yeah I did the calculations with 3k difference USAA to MSRP but then edited to 2.5k but forgot to update the calculations. There were some very ballparkish numbers in the first post but if the methodology makes sense then I think the numbers are close enough for my purposes. As long as I'm not forgetting some major factor I should be considering, that is.
02-04-2013 10:07 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by bullcrew View Post
A jeep is a lifestyle, its a Lego for adults and like a boat it can be a money pit. If saving money is the name of the game and thinking about there major purchases more thoroughly then the rising price of gas should come into play and a Prius or a hybrid should be right there...possibly leaving less of a carbon footprint on the planet etc....

Just in gas especially of you drive a lot could be used to invest, a jeep is a toy....a Lego for adults...

Just my .02
Sure, but it's a toy that can get you back and forth to work. I am not even remotely considering anything other than real 4x4s. I spend every free weekend in the woods somewhere, the further back the better.

It's certainly not an investment, but I think it does make sense to nail down the real costs before you make a decision.
02-04-2013 10:07 PM
RKracing I believe it is about a $2,800 difference.
02-04-2013 10:06 PM
Dew
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Originally Posted by bullcrew View Post
Just in gas especially of you drive a lot could be used to invest, a jeep is a toy....a Lego for adults...

Just my .02
true... and a bicycle can be looked upon as a toy for kids. But some people commute to work on their bikes.

And remember the saying, "All work and no play..." sometimes you need to write off the piss poor MPG and invest in the SPG. (smiles per gallon!)
02-04-2013 10:05 PM
RKracing Well....you know what all the women say......................

























Once you go Rubi you never want to go back
02-04-2013 10:04 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by Dew View Post
well, there's another option you'll need to add on to the Sport. Tow package.
Yup.

I think it's settled. When I first posted I hadn't even really thought about the tow package or replacing the Sport tires. I think for me the cost benefits of the Sport are really past the point of diminishing returns.
02-04-2013 10:02 PM
bullcrew
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Originally Posted by i82much View Post
I think a lot of people would have more money left over for investing if they thought their major purchases through more completely than they do.
A jeep is a lifestyle, its a Lego for adults and like a boat it can be a money pit. If saving money is the name of the game and thinking about there major purchases more thoroughly then the rising price of gas should come into play and a Prius or a hybrid should be right there...possibly leaving less of a carbon footprint on the planet etc....

Just in gas especially of you drive a lot could be used to invest, a jeep is a toy....a Lego for adults...

Just my .02

Added: I know buying a new vehicle is fun and chatting it up is even more so fun to making the right decision with no regret so I understand where your coming from.

Either way its a jeep have fun with it, I don't buy jeeps for resell, hell I dent em, break em and go places only jeeps and buggies go....but I've had a lot in the past and off road race trucks, firm believer in my intended purpose....

Congrats on it when you get it.
02-04-2013 10:01 PM
Dew
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Originally Posted by i82much View Post
2 door Rubi. Love it. Love love love it. Honestly it's not even the space so much as the towing capacity, I really want a travel trailer. The idea of going camping somewhere, locking the (maybe add-on half) doors in the trailer and going cruising through the woods really sings to me.
well, there's another option you'll need to add on to the Sport. Tow package.
02-04-2013 09:58 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by Dew View Post
so the question is, do you want to spend $2200 more for a D44 front axle, lockers, elec sway discos?

Do you currently have the 2 door Sport or Rubi?
2 door Rubi. Love it. Love love love it. Honestly it's not even the space so much as the towing capacity, I really want a travel trailer. The idea of going camping somewhere, locking the (maybe add-on half) doors in the trailer and going cruising through the woods really sings to me.
02-04-2013 09:56 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
yes that is me, but I have yet to go and see how bad the hosing will be. I hate having to get into the car dealing mode. My wife says I turn into an arsehole lol.
Dude I have spent the last month or so looking myself in the mirror every day going "your Jeep is awesome but you were an idiot for getting a two door." Then, when I'm done, my fiance looks at me and says "you were an idiot for getting the two door." Then I call and talk to my brother and he says "why didn't you just get the four door the first time around?"

As you can see, everyone in my family is so helpful.
02-04-2013 09:55 PM
Dew so the question is, do you want to spend $2200 more for a D44 front axle, lockers, elec sway discos?

Do you currently have the 2 door Sport or Rubi?
02-04-2013 09:54 PM
RICHINBOCA I'm not sure if anyone really answered the question. It seems to me forgetting about trade in... The difference is about 4k give or take. If anybody has any other numbers please chime in.
02-04-2013 09:54 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by bullcrew View Post
Does it matter, your over thinking this.


Its a 4x4 buy it for what your using it for its not an investment there are better markets for that...
I think a lot of people would have more money left over for investing if they thought their major purchases through more completely than they do.
02-04-2013 09:54 PM
jadmt
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Originally Posted by i82much View Post
Aren't you getting a 2 door soon? Thought you were the guy I briefly discussed trading with.
yes that is me, but I have yet to go and see how bad the hosing will be. I hate having to get into the car dealing mode. My wife says I turn into an arsehole lol.
02-04-2013 09:53 PM
bullcrew Does it matter, your over thinking this.


Its a 4x4 buy it for what your using it for its not an investment there are better markets for that...

Not being rude lol, figure out what's important to you and if your not wheeling hard then a sport may be right for you, buy a used set of tires off Craigslist.
If you want to wheel harder buy a Rubicon, if your like me then buy a base or mid line and slap a bunch of money and time at it then break it and repeat....
02-04-2013 09:51 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
I have a basic sport jku if I had to do it over I would spend the extra coin just to get the dana 44 front and lockers. these are two things that are not so easy to upgrade on the sport. You can get bigger tires and lift etc but a replacement front axle is spendy. I doubt I will ever even be in a situation where I would need those upgrades but sure would be nice to know I did have them if needed.
Aren't you getting a 2 door soon? Thought you were the guy I briefly discussed trading with.
02-04-2013 09:50 PM
i82much
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Originally Posted by RRTRI View Post
For us the choice came down to wanting to do something completely different. All the vehicles we've owned in the last 10 years have had every bell and whistle offered. Getting the crank windows in the wrangler and never ever locking it for fear of anything being stolen or screwed with as been awesome!

Simplifying in that regard has been very refreshing and fun. We are starting to understand the lifestyle angle of the Jeep.
Dude I so get that. I really do. It's funny but even with all the rationalizing there is this certain appeal to a bare bones Jeep. I always had work trucks with rubber floor mats, crank windows, and floor shifted 4x4. I wish there was a low-end with the Rubi hardware and nothing else, maybe even a lined tub instead of carpet.
02-04-2013 09:48 PM
jadmt I have a basic sport jku if I had to do it over I would spend the extra coin just to get the dana 44 front and lockers. these are two things that are not so easy to upgrade on the sport. You can get bigger tires and lift etc but a replacement front axle is spendy. I doubt I will ever even be in a situation where I would need those upgrades but sure would be nice to know I did have them if needed.
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