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09-16-2013 02:17 AM
asianhulk
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Originally Posted by thelinux View Post
BTW, when you get that harness you may need to (I did) swap some wires as our jeep is ground switched.
read http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pdf...on_Harness.pdf and look for trouble shooting section.

good luck!
Linky no longer works but there is a troubleshoot checklist right cheah...

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pdf...re_Harness.pdf
02-16-2013 10:28 PM
EMTJEEP Check DDMtuning they have the wiring you need to make it not a read an open circuit and error eliminators.
02-13-2013 12:05 PM
thelinux
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Originally Posted by MarcelOrtiz View Post
Cool. I'm getting on it right now and hopefully can get that some this wknd.

Tks
BTW, when you get that harness you may need to (I did) swap some wires as our jeep is ground switched.
read http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pdf...on_Harness.pdf and look for trouble shooting section.

good luck!
02-13-2013 10:43 AM
caryt I'd make sure you use a Hid Projection module in the housings of your choice..not just stick a set of bulbs in...
02-13-2013 09:23 AM
MarcelOrtiz Cool. I'm getting on it right now and hopefully can get that some this wknd.

Tks
02-13-2013 06:03 AM
thelinux go to retrofitsource.com and buy mopar specific h13 harness. thats what i am using.
02-12-2013 11:49 PM
SilverSport Since HIDs require much less amperage than halogens, you may be able to get by with adding capacitors to the factory harness, but I don't have a definitive answer.

You could call SMS and ask for Ray; he is their wiring guru: Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Products Catalog
02-12-2013 10:36 AM
MarcelOrtiz
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Originally Posted by SilverSport View Post
Yes the electronics in the TIPM will sense an "open circuit" but there is no need to run a second circuit. Use the factory harness to trigger the relays that will send power to the HID ballasts.

You will also need capacitors and diodes to "defeat" the PWM voltage from the factory harness.

When I did the Cibie upgrade, I used the factory headlight harness to trigger. Since the TIPM doesn't get a return signal on the factory harness, it will set two trouble codes, one for each headlight. Will not cause a CEL or any other malfunction. You won't know they are there unless you scan for codes.
So you are saying to add 1 relay harness + capacitors. Or just add the capacitors using only my factory withering (that's the way I have it on my 2012 silverado) in my 2011 Camry I had no capacitors but did have a relay harnes connected to the battery (I had to do that to eliminate flickering)

Thanks again.
02-12-2013 08:54 AM
Dick Blonov
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Originally Posted by SilverSport View Post
Since the TIPM doesn't get a return signal on the factory harness, it will set two trouble codes, one for each headlight.
I would have thought you'd get one for low beam, one for high beam on one side (the one with nothing connected)?

DB
02-11-2013 11:46 PM
SilverSport
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcelOrtiz View Post
(07 4 door rubi)

NOTE: i intend to do my HIDs the legal way but before i can start my retrofit project i would like to know it can in fact be wired the right way.

i want to install the HID kit H13/9008, 5k color temp with a wire harness. i know the computer will sense an open circuit, can i eliminate this by installing a second wire harness also straight to the batt to close the circuit?? have anyone done this? i know i will have 2 extra sockets but i dont mind that.
has anyoine done this??

thanks in advance.
Yes the electronics in the TIPM will sense an "open circuit" but there is no need to run a second circuit. Use the factory harness to trigger the relays that will send power to the HID ballasts.

You will also need capacitors and diodes to "defeat" the PWM voltage from the factory harness.

When I did the Cibie upgrade, I used the factory headlight harness to trigger. Since the TIPM doesn't get a return signal on the factory harness, it will set two trouble codes, one for each headlight. Will not cause a CEL or any other malfunction. You won't know they are there unless you scan for codes.
02-11-2013 11:42 PM
thomm99 On every good Jeep forum the HID post has to come up. It's highly illegal, you will go to jail, and kittens will die. And using a relay kit works without any issue. Please remember to adjust your lights down a bit. Especially if you have a lift.
02-11-2013 11:29 PM
onetraveller Technically none of these options are legal as the Hella and Cibie headlights are a euro spec not a US spec.

There is an option for HID headlights that is done correctly. Rallylights.com has an HID projector kit that replaces your entire headlight housing. They have an odd look (kind of a bugeye thing) but supposedly work very well. They are also one of the more expensive options.

Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Product

Mike
02-11-2013 10:42 PM
Dick Blonov
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Originally Posted by MarcelOrtiz View Post
(07 4 door rubi)

NOTE: i intend to do my HIDs the legal way

i want to install the HID kit H13/9008
What you want to do cannot be done the legal way in any way shape or form. Period.

Maybe I misunderstood your question.

DB
02-11-2013 08:03 PM
MarcelOrtiz interesting reads but remember i said im only doing this if i can retrofit.

now can anyone please answer the question?
02-11-2013 07:01 PM
onetraveller Here's the straight dope.

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Mike
02-11-2013 06:26 PM
Dusthol Mega light thread covers hid. Check it out.
02-11-2013 06:17 PM
Dick Blonov My understanding is that you cannot make this legal using the stock reflector. One example here.

Scroll at the very bottom of that web page.

Tools Needed:
10mm Socket
Flat Head Screwdriver
T10 Torx Driver
Wire Cutters/Snips
Electrical Tape

Lifetime Warranty.

-->>For off road use only.<<--


Lighting experts may want to throw in their 2 cents.

DB
02-11-2013 06:10 PM
MarcelOrtiz
HIDs confirmation

(07 4 door rubi)

NOTE: i intend to do my HIDs the legal way but before i can start my retrofit project i would like to know it can in fact be wired the right way.

i want to install the HID kit H13/9008, 5k color temp with a wire harness. i know the computer will sense an open circuit, can i eliminate this by installing a second wire harness also straight to the batt to close the circuit?? have anyone done this? i know i will have 2 extra sockets but i dont mind that.
has anyoine done this??

thanks in advance.

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