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Today 02:18 AM
tkfx That didn't take long to change my mind . As for which type of bumpstop ill use, either the synergy budget cans, or the ones linked above this post will largely be determined by the gap between the frame and the axle, and currently it is pretty big.

Thanks guys!
Today 01:55 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by tkfx View Post
Dam, I didn't think about the possibility of a internal bypass coilover. I did some searching and couldn't find any Fox internal bypass coilovers in the 2.0 flavor, only in the 2.5. Even King starts their IB Coilovers from 2.5 and up. I wonder if it really is internal bypassed or if they just put it on text just because. The reason I don't want to run the factory style pad and bump is because of space limitations. If I wanted to do it right where I would be able to upgrade to hydros down the line, I would have to use bump cans paired with this: POLY PERFORMANCE OFF-ROAD PARTS┬*::┬*Suspension┬*::┬*Bump Stops & Mounts┬*::┬*Synergy Budget Bump Stop Which is effectively a rubber and pad, but a hybrid between a hydro and a rubber bumpstop. Can't disagree with you here. Today at Hungry Valley I took a deep pit too fast and bottomed out my front shocks, luckly I started braking right before I hit so I didn't damage the shock.
I wasn't saying it was an internal bypass coilover, pretty sure they would have mentioned that in the 4 page article on it. You dont have room for a 2" by 2" bumpstop pad above the diff and possibly build off of the upper control arm mount on the other side? Don't get stuck thinking it has to be right by the shock, right on the tube for the axle. But bumpstops should have gotten figured out a long time ago when you first set up your coilovers. Personally air/hydro bumps are a waste if youre not trying to think you're in the KOH. I get it you might hit some chop or wild hair up your ass going down a fire road, but thats not what they are meant for. Some of the race car tech is wayyyy too much overkill for what anyone needs, especially if you're building a rig for rock crawling.



God I could fit these damn near anywhere http://m.summitracing.com/parts/ens-9-9137g

Proper valving of your coilovers and you could make them just kiss them. But that will take a lot of research and some know how.
Today 01:28 AM
tkfx
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Just to add do this, bypass shocks dont have hydraulic bumpstops built in. How some people tune them is to make them stiffen up through the compressions stroke of the shock. Closer it reaches up the stiffer it is to the point where it barely compress. Also I found an old Crawl magazine and found daddy long legs specs for you
Dam, I didn't think about the possibility of a internal bypass coilover. I did some searching and couldn't find any Fox internal bypass coilovers in the 2.0 flavor, only in the 2.5. Even King starts their IB Coilovers from 2.5 and up. I wonder if it really is internal bypassed or if they just put it on text just because.

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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Why not run a factory style foam one or even just small rubber ones? Air bumps/hydraulic bumpstops really are for like prerunning kinda stuff. But bottoming out a coilover just doesnt sound to great to me but I could see how if the travel is pretty 50/50 or so. Also i would double check on daddy long legs, believe the bumpstops are internal in his coilovers.
The reason I don't want to run the factory style pad and bump is because of space limitations. If I wanted to do it right where I would be able to upgrade to hydros down the line, I would have to use bump cans paired with this:

POLY PERFORMANCE OFF-ROAD PARTS┬*::┬*Suspension┬*::┬*Bump Stops & Mounts┬*::┬*Synergy Budget Bump Stop

Which is effectively a rubber and pad, but a hybrid between a hydro and a rubber bumpstop.

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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
I'm a believer in bump stops a limit straps not because you need them all the time but that one time you can't stop in time and bam you bottom out hard or eject a spring. They are fairly inexpensive and protect the high priced stuff.

Can't disagree with you here. Today at Hungry Valley I took a deep pit too fast and bottomed out my front shocks, luckly I started braking right before I hit so I didn't damage the shock.
Today 12:12 AM
Ditchdoc I'm a believer in bump stops a limit straps not because you need them all the time but that one time you can't stop in time and bam you bottom out hard or eject a spring. They are fairly inexpensive and protect the high priced stuff.
Today 12:05 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by tkfx View Post
Went out to Gorman today with a group led by Lorie to test out my LJ before I go balls deep into some harder trails. I was playing around in the practice area, specifically the big rock garden, and im impress with how I was able to handle those rocks without locking an axle. I can't wait to do some real rock crawling now that I know how my jeep will perform. Im going to post a video of the rock garden section that I recorded via my dashcam when I get home. Also, looking for your guys opinion, Im thinking of not running any bumpstops. Reason I say this is because I know of two LJs that run CO's and do primarily rock crawling (Rock Krawler Stretch LJ, and PSC Larry's orange LJ) and they do not have any bumpstops. Im thinking that they adjust their spring stop rings so that their main stiffer spring acts as a passive bumpstop. What do you guys think, is it worth the huge investment for bumpstops or is it manageable without them? (Also both LJs above don't have any bypass shocks with built in hydrobumps).
Just to add do this, bypass shocks dont have hydraulic bumpstops built in. How some people tune them is to make them stiffen up through the compressions stroke of the shock. Closer it reaches up the stiffer it is to the point where it barely compress. Also I found an old Crawl magazine and found daddy long legs specs for you


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Yesterday 11:52 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by tkfx View Post
Went out to Gorman today with a group led by Lorie to test out my LJ before I go balls deep into some harder trails. I was playing around in the practice area, specifically the big rock garden, and im impress with how I was able to handle those rocks without locking an axle. I can't wait to do some real rock crawling now that I know how my jeep will perform. Im going to post a video of the rock garden section that I recorded via my dashcam when I get home. Also, looking for your guys opinion, Im thinking of not running any bumpstops. Reason I say this is because I know of two LJs that run CO's and do primarily rock crawling (Rock Krawler Stretch LJ, and PSC Larry's orange LJ) and they do not have any bumpstops. Im thinking that they adjust their spring stop rings so that their main stiffer spring acts as a passive bumpstop. What do you guys think, is it worth the huge investment for bumpstops or is it manageable without them? (Also both LJs above don't have any bypass shocks with built in hydrobumps).

Why not run a factory style foam one or even just small rubber ones? Air bumps/hydraulic bumpstops really are for like prerunning kinda stuff. But bottoming out a coilover just doesnt sound to great to me but I could see how if the travel is pretty 50/50 or so. Also i would double check on daddy long legs, believe the bumpstops are internal in his coilovers.
Yesterday 11:34 PM
tkfx Went out to Gorman today with a group led by Lorie to test out my LJ before I go balls deep into some harder trails. I was playing around in the practice area, specifically the big rock garden, and im impress with how I was able to handle those rocks without locking an axle. I can't wait to do some real rock crawling now that I know how my jeep will perform. Im going to post a video of the rock garden section that I recorded via my dashcam when I get home.

Also, looking for your guys opinion, Im thinking of not running any bumpstops. Reason I say this is because I know of two LJs that run CO's and do primarily rock crawling (Rock Krawler Stretch LJ, and PSC Larry's orange LJ) and they do not have any bumpstops. Im thinking that they adjust their spring stop rings so that their main stiffer spring acts as a passive bumpstop. What do you guys think, is it worth the huge investment for bumpstops or is it manageable without them? (Also both LJs above don't have any bypass shocks with built in hydrobumps).
Yesterday 11:15 PM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
We had a flop on 2N17X today. No injuries but he flopped about 200 feet up a long narrow run with a big step. We had to winch him all the way down on his side and then right him. He drove it the rest of the way to trails end but he has about 10K of damages on a 2013 JK. No one got hurt and everyone helped.
Sounds like I missed another exciting run. Good to hear nobody was hurt. A good group of people hear on the WF. I truly enjoy wheeling with everyone.
Yesterday 11:10 PM
Gunner We had a flop on 2N17X today. No injuries but he flopped about 200 feet up a long narrow run with a big step. We had to winch him all the way down on his side and then right him. He drove it the rest of the way to trails end but he has about 10K of damages on a 2013 JK. No one got hurt and everyone helped.
Yesterday 10:11 PM
R8DRIZD Anyone know where I might pick up a pair of 97 TJ hard doors? Color is not important.

Thanks,
Nick
Yesterday 07:05 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
thanks man you are a excellent source. I will wait to see what I get for the front and match them.
If you move to a D300 Tcase and left it passenger side drop you'd have more choices for a front axle and will find them at a much better price.
Yesterday 05:25 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by WOKNROX View Post
Yeah 72" I wide..you can get new chromo shafts with the wright length and bolt pattern for a couple to a few hundy.
thanks man you are a excellent source. I will wait to see what I get for the front and match them.
Yesterday 05:12 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
I got it for $350. And it has disc brakes.
Yeah 72" I wide..you can get new chromo shafts with the wright length and bolt pattern for a couple to a few hundy.
Yesterday 04:53 PM
Ditchdoc I got it for $350. And it has disc brakes.
Yesterday 04:52 PM
Ditchdoc Like 72" outmost extreme.
Yesterday 04:44 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
Well that sucks. It's the rear so I guess it's staying the way it is.
10-4. .how wide is the axle?
Yesterday 03:51 PM
Ditchdoc Well that sucks. It's the rear so I guess it's staying the way it is.
Yesterday 02:50 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
Steve, how much work is it to change the track on a dana 60? Do I need to have new shafts made or can the old ones be cut and splined?
You'd want to narrow only the long side of the axle. Then order up a new inner shaft at the new size
Yesterday 01:53 PM
Ditchdoc Steve, how much work is it to change the track on a dana 60? Do I need to have new shafts made or can the old ones be cut and splined?
12-26-2014 10:02 PM
WOKNROX
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Thats the old one lol, gonna love the new one. Its gonna be a heavy bitch but also indestructible too lol
Awesome. ..gonna be sweet
12-26-2014 09:57 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by WOKNROX View Post
Skid plate looks good bud.

Thats the old one lol, gonna love the new one. Its gonna be a heavy bitch but also indestructible too lol
12-26-2014 09:55 PM
WOKNROX Skid plate looks good bud.
12-26-2014 09:26 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Reave View Post
I'll get with the wife and see if that can happen. Im still in Idaho, but I'll be back a week from tomorrow
Sounds good just let me know.
12-26-2014 09:10 PM
Dougzin Space ships for everybody!
12-26-2014 09:08 PM
Reave
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

I'd say $200 installed. And if you can wait till a week or two after leave I can make sure you've got all the mounting hardware you'll need for the frame side. I used it for my new space ship lol
I'll get with the wife and see if that can happen. Im still in Idaho, but I'll be back a week from tomorrow
12-26-2014 09:06 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Reave View Post
How much do you want for it?

I'd say $200 installed. And if you can wait till a week or two after leave I can make sure you've got all the mounting hardware you'll need for the frame side. I used it for my new space ship lol
12-26-2014 09:01 PM
Reave
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

Funny thing about that, I've got my first one I made for my jeep. No drilling, no crazy mods besides you will have to trim the lip off of the tcase skid. Granted mine is a 3.8 instead of a 3.6 so it could work we would have to see.

Only thing it might not clear is the exhaust, but ill have to look at it to see.
How much do you want for it?
12-26-2014 08:53 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Reave View Post
I'd pay for materials if you can make me one too.

Funny thing about that, I've got my first one I made for my jeep. No drilling, no crazy mods besides you will have to trim the lip off of the tcase skid. Granted mine is a 3.8 instead of a 3.6 so it could work we would have to see.


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Only thing it might not clear is the exhaust, but ill have to look at it to see.
12-26-2014 08:43 PM
Reave
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Started making a spaceship today lol
I'd pay for materials if you can make me one too.
12-26-2014 08:27 PM
Gunner Yeah but I can't change shocks now. I have what I have.
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