|12-06-2006 12:05 PM|
|daddyjeep||I am a little late getting here. The one thing that my wife and I have noticed is that a lot of people are putting Xmas on their signs. I know it is just lazyness, but it seems that they are taking Christ out of Christmas. I come from an area without much religous diversity so I don't have to worry about being holiday PC. I also call thanksgiving turkey day...I hope that isn't offensive.|
|12-06-2006 09:44 AM|
Thats what that is, I thought my eyes were just clouding over
|12-06-2006 09:42 AM|
|tiny terror||Are you trying? Your brain will start to smoke.|
|12-06-2006 09:35 AM|
|12-06-2006 09:23 AM|
No Odhinn, you didn't come across like you only accept Christmas. I agree that this PC movement has gotten well past what it was intended to do.
I was just musing.
|12-06-2006 09:05 AM|
|mrbigjeep||hmm. that doesn't seem very fair. to let you wish "Happy Hanukah" but not Merry Christmas. good thing the place where i work doesn't have any rules.|
|12-06-2006 08:05 AM|
Tiny that is very well stated and I feel the same way. If I made it sound like I only accept Christmas as the holiday this time of year then I apologize, that is just the one I celebrate. However, the popular view of PC doesn't seem to see it that way. I haven't been in retail for years but when I worked in retail (part time) we had rules about wishing people Merry Christmas, but there were no rules about wishing someone Happy Hanukah, or happy Quanza. If retail companies have become more fair in their practices then I probably am misinformed, due to the long time I have been out of customer service. I might be wrong but I think this is what Rebel was irritated at. Not the acceptance of other holidays but the actual unfairness of PC.
|12-05-2006 11:59 PM|
|12-05-2006 11:45 PM|
|mrbigjeep||tiny, that is very well put.|
|12-05-2006 11:42 PM|
|12-05-2006 11:37 PM|
|tiny terror||I guess I'm not seeing it as a removal of Christmas but an inclusion of all the other faith's celebrations. It's a good day when someone wishes you well, whatever terms they use.|
|12-05-2006 05:58 AM|
(I waited to long to edit this in)
Companies are also placed in an odd position with the laws and lawsuits running around so they have to cover their bases. very sad in my opinion.
|12-05-2006 05:37 AM|
|12-04-2006 11:06 PM|
|12-04-2006 10:51 PM|
|Triple88a||when some one in the store wishes you the "wrong holiday name" because of your religion it's the thought that counts isnt it?|
|12-03-2006 07:40 PM|
No matter how you look at it you are always going to "offend" someone somewhere!! That is just the way of the world.
my look on it (and it is completely my opinion) is that if I have to watch what I say cause I might offend someone with saying Merry Christmas than maybe others should watch what they say as far as cuss words cause they might be offending me
It's just a real touchy topic.
|12-01-2006 04:42 PM|
|12-01-2006 10:01 AM|
Just say Happy ChristmaHanaQuazika then you have all your bases covered.
I personally say Happy Holidays to people that I don't know. If I do know them I say Merry Chirstmas, like when I'm at church or with my friends and family, I do have a few Jewish friends as well and I tell them Happy Chanukah (the correct spelling BTW)
I've worked in a customer service for over 10 years and when its around this time of year I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say Merry Christmas to a customer and they've said 'I'm Jewish' or they were from the middle east and celibrated Quanza or something else. I don't feel its as much of an issue of being Politicaly Correct vs. being a Responsible Citizen, Unlike the movements like displaying another countries Flag above the ol' red white and blue (don't get me started on that). It's a matter of being informed enough to know that we live in a mixed society with different religions and different opinions. And its ok not to be the same and disagree, but its not ok to think that if everyone dosn't think like you they're wrong.
|11-30-2006 10:25 PM|
i gotcha. i don't think they mean harm when they say "happy holidays" and its great when they say it. but like i said i really like "merry christmas" and i think its about christ but at least there wishing me a happy holiday.
i understand ya though. i believe strongly in Christ.
|11-30-2006 10:18 PM|
|amerijeep||Thanks, tiny. I see that you "get it".|
|11-30-2006 10:17 PM|
|amerijeep||I agree with you, bigjeep. I don't see why it would be either. Also, I don't see why "Happy Holidays" is an insult either. The entire idea of anyone being upset from a holiday well-wisher is ludicrous. For a retail store to make it policy for it's staff to simply use the phrase "Happy Holidays" is not meant to offend anyone and they have never said that they thought "Merry Christmas" was offensive. It is just a simple and broad greeting that covers several holidays at once.|
|11-30-2006 10:14 PM|
|tiny terror||It's not that merry christmas is an insult. It's that happy holidays isn't. We live in a world that has a multitude of faiths. Christmas is one of several holidays celebrated this time of year, including Jewish and a pagan holiday. The season is about Jesus for some, but not for all.|
|11-30-2006 10:12 PM|
|mrbigjeep||i don't see why "merry christmas" would be an insult though|
|11-30-2006 09:35 PM|
I don't mean any offense, but this is statement is just plain out there.... Anyone who thinks like this is really part of the problem, imo.
I definetly am not PC and am very conservative. However, I do believe in simple courtesy to everyone and their beliefs. That's why I am backing out of this thread. I think there are some closed minds here and I will respect your right to be abrasive.
|11-30-2006 09:23 PM|
|rebelBullDawg325||amy was right. it's not the fact that people say happy holidy that offends me, bc like i siad i say it myself. but when people (and companies) make sure to say holiday instead of christmas bc it may offend people. when people go "holiday shopping" we all know that christmas shopping is meant. it's just annoying that people go out of their way to make sure the word holiday is used instead of christmas|
|11-30-2006 07:57 PM|
if i think about it i guess it really isn't bad for them to wish me a happy holiday because they are wishing me a good time which is great but i definitely like to hear merry christmas because its all about Jesus.
|11-30-2006 09:06 AM|
Jesus is the reason for the season!!!!
I say Merry Christmas to everyone, I dont care who I insult cause thats what i say, I believe strongly in Jesus/Christ being the reason for the whole season...
These people get carried away with taking things out or away from where they belong and always have been.
|11-30-2006 08:08 AM|
|kg4kpg||I'll give a different angle. I'm not religeous. I don't care what greeting people use but I don't like it being regulated. I grew up Baptist, have read and studied the bible and it just doesn't do anything for me. A great novel. I do , however, have the upmost respect for your (anyones) right to believe what they want and out of courtesy bow my head when a public prayer is said. I would never infringe on anyones freedom of religion, so long as it doesn't cause a conflict in the workplace. I do get pissed when someone pushes their belief on me even after I say I'm not interested in listening. I've heard it all over the years, you can't tell me anything different other than your own interpretation. I believe our country was built on christian beliefs and has adapted over the years to include many different faiths. Too much is being done these days to "not offend" people, it is disturbing and just as offensive. I enjoy Christmas as a time to be with family. I don't believe but just like everyone else, I can't explain where we come from. I say Merry Christmas. If you want to reply with Happy Hunakah (sp) or happy Kwanza then so be it, I hope you enjoy yours as well.|
|11-30-2006 06:45 AM|
Since I live in an ethnic melting pot of cultures.....I see this a lot. I don't intentionally mean to offend someone with whatever greeting I offer.....however if it's the "wrong" greeting I would hope they don't have thin skin and be insulted.
Smile & be happy.
|11-30-2006 01:48 AM|
I guess I tend to call it the holiday season or happy holidays from Thanksgiving through new years and generally around a week or so before the actual day start to wish a Merry Christmas/happy Thanksgiving/happy Newyear. No PC on my part just the way I was raised. I do have to agree that PC is out of control in our society.
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