|06-30-2013 05:18 PM|
|AllMudd||mattmason - I feel you man! I'm in the military too. Kinda funny though our vehicles are almost mirror image of each other. 95 Jeep wrangler and 2011 Journey|
|06-30-2013 05:13 PM|
|06-30-2013 10:01 AM|
|sslopok||The previous owner of my jeep when driving it and it died. Had no fuel and no spark. The ecm in the yjs are known to just puke.|
|06-30-2013 09:29 AM|
|mattmason||well money has been an issue through this whole thing as my funds are usually limited as I don't get paid a lot in being a military member and living among the general public doesn't help but I think I am not doing too shabby.|
|06-29-2013 12:19 AM|
|Pittsburghwrangler||If money is an issue you can do it without the steering wheel puller, I have done it myself to fix turn signals and horn but the puller will save you alot of trouble.|
|06-28-2013 07:43 PM|
|mattmason||well I have checked every ground at least 3 times to include the one on the back of the engine to the firewall. anyways just ordered a new engine control module and wire harness. the tumbler I have but I need to get a wheel puller like tomorrow.|
|06-27-2013 10:49 AM|
|AZ WRANGLER||Ground wire is not secure somewhere or hooked up wrong to a positive lead. It sounds like turning the ignition is draining all the power because of a wiring issue|
|06-26-2013 07:45 AM|
We understand you are frustrated but honestly you may need to provide some pictures at this point I have read through the whole thread and you stated that originally the issue was it died in a turn. Then you started replacing parts including fuses and wires. Can you tell us was it a right hand turn or left hand turn? And is the vehicle lifted with big tires also if it is lifted were the turn stops adjusted.
The reason I am asking this is it may be something as simple as when you made the turn you pulled a wire loose I will be honest I am guessing but with out pictures of the electrical components to see how they are attached we will be limited in how we can assist you. Please take a pic of all the grounds you have found and the starter to solenoid to firewal to battery and post them.
Lastly when you put the screwdriver to the starter did the vehicle crank and run or did you just test its ability to crank?
|06-25-2013 10:53 PM|
You never did say what the original problem was. Have you even driven this thing before? If so, what made you throw all the parts at it? Why were you replacing the fuses? Were the actually blown? We need some more info to help out. Its not really clear if you replaced the ignition switch yet, I would start there after verifying that I have GOOD grounds.
On a side note.....A friend of mine is a mechanic by trade. He has owned his '55 Chevy since high school, he is around 50. He has been chasing down a slow/no crank issue when the engine is hot for years! The motor has been out 4-5 times, multiple starters, solenoids, ignition switches, batteries and even adding jumper wires to help get it started.
Last Friday, he had the same problem. Go figure. He cut the ground wire at the battery (in the trunk) a couple inches shorter and re-installed it on the terminal. The car started better than when it did cold. He has been chasing this problem for over 10 years! Funny stuff.
|06-25-2013 10:04 PM|
|AllMudd||I have read through this post and didn't see this suggestion but I might be wrong. Have you looked into a new tumbler? The ignition tumbler on the steering column me be bad. They go out often on older vehicles, especially when you have a ridiculous number ok keys hanging by the tumbler will off roading. This would explain why the clock works fine while its in the off position and nothing works in the acc. position.|
|06-25-2013 09:54 PM|
|mattmason||Still workin' on her... Shit honestly bout to give up, and just get a newer jeep.|
|06-06-2013 09:39 PM|
|mattmason||nope tried everything now to the point of even checking voltage on the ignition coil and checking each wire individually. my mind is blown. I really think I just need to get someone here to look at it or the last resort take out a loan and take it to a mechanic. yea that's not ideal for me to tack it to a shop as I believe they break stuff just enough to where I have to come back to get it fixed so they can make more money off people. or they use substandard parts and charge for the more expensive ones.|
|03-09-2013 03:33 PM|
|bajajohn||Some times in the Ignition circuty they have fuse links these things can be a pain to diagnose. I had one that was consealed in the wireing harness that I like to never found.|
|03-09-2013 01:57 PM|
|mattmason||yea pretty much the entire dash is off now and i am about ro loose the ac to get to the switch, but grounds may also be another point of interest to me i am thinging as it would not start back up after i hit the head lights but i am replacing the switch first to double tap and make sure it is not that. i bought a whole hell of a lot of extra wire and so attaching points to creat more grounding points if that need arises. also found a home made wire diagram that makes more since than what is in the book that i got. maybe when my next rebuuild manual gets here it will have some better thoughts on this as well.|
|03-03-2013 02:41 PM|
|Garyk||At this point I would suspect the switch. It should be mounted on the column just under the dash, you say there is something in the way?|
|03-03-2013 02:02 PM|
|mattmason||alright just replaced all the fuses, but still when the key is to off the clock runs like it should. then when moved to the acc position the clock dies and nothng else comes to life, i also went and tried the starter relay again. still no dice. my other thought is that it coul be the ignition switch itself. though with its location its like a mother fucker to get to at this point i think i ought to take off the air conditioner bracket to get to it as this jeep has that feature which i dont really understand.|
|02-26-2013 06:16 PM|
the starter came from rugged ridge, so yea its not a referb. when its still in the accessory possion the clock works but thats about it everything else to include fuel gauge still doesnt work. working on the fuses. and before i replaced all that stuff it had died going around a turn at a signal light intown and yea i was unable to get it started back up. it may be a colum issue i mean i do have a new ignition and ignition switch i have yet to put in and was hoping to avoid doing.
i do hope its something as easy as fuses though. i would like to have my jeep back up and running before the weather gets nice to go play in the snow a bit
|02-26-2013 05:04 PM|
|Nanook||Do you have a multimeter to test the battery? Also, when you say that you turned the key do mean to start it or just to the accessory position? Have you checked fuses? My initial thoughts were some sort of short in your column/ignition?|
|02-26-2013 04:23 PM|
You mentioned the starter has been replaced...where did you get it? Some discount auto parts stores are not known for their reliable rebuilts....
If the jeep ran before you replaced the parts then its either a bad part or something got messed up in the install...
|02-26-2013 01:50 PM|
I would try unhooking everything from the hot wire on the starter to the ground wire off the battery to to frame.
Clean everything with a wire brush and electrical cleaner (or such) then reassemble making sure everything seats nice and tight and has a good contact patch.
|02-26-2013 01:00 PM|
|RandomYJguy||How are the cables? With the way it just clicks and everything dies. It sounds like a bad connection. My assumption is the ground. Take the jumper cables. Attach one ground to the battery. Then take the other ground cable ans ground that to the chassis somewhere. Then both positives just attach to the "grille support?" (The 2 rods that attach from the firewall to the grille. Try and turn it on. If this works. It's a bad ground connection.|
|02-26-2013 12:19 PM|
|mattmason||yes everything is nice and tight no corotion as i have replace so many things, battery is hooked in correctly. i have thought maybe the altinator could be an issue, but also maybe fuses. i took a screwdriver to the starter and it tried to start but nothing once i removed the screw driver.|
|02-26-2013 12:05 PM|
|CrazyYJ||Make sure everything is tight at the battery terminals. If it is then hook up some jumper cables and see if you can jump it. If you get it started let it run for a bit and then disconnect the neg while its running. The motor should still run, if it runs crappy and begins to die it means your alternator is not working properly and killing your battery. First step is definitely make sure connections are tight though|
|02-26-2013 12:03 PM|
I know this may sound stupid but is the new battery connected right? Sounds like a bad connection, double check the terminals for tightness and corrosion and connections at starter and grounds.
If its the original cables, they are probably shot, they corrode a few inches in from the lug, hard to see but won't carry a load.
|02-26-2013 12:01 PM|
|Dragnslayr06||Could be as easy as the new battery not fully charged I replaced mine last week and kept my trickle charger on it took 4 hours to start floating. Short drive wouldn't. Let the alternator do its thing. Also possible you have an accessory short.|
|02-26-2013 11:55 AM|
something went wrong
Ok i just replaced the battery, ignition coil, starter, starter relay, fuel pump relay, carborator, fuel pump, some break line, most of the lights, and fuses. took the jeep out for a test run go it up to about 30mph. At this point i noticed i was freezing so i parked it for the night. the next day i got in it to go to work and it starrted up great, but as soon as i hit the headlight switch everything died, and when i pulled the key out and the clock came back to life. so i gave it another try and as soon as i turned the key the clock died and and nothing happened. what can i do to get my jeep back to life again.