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Today 09:56 PM
sahara2011
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People. ..
Today 09:55 PM
sahara2011
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Originally Posted by gixxerphil

Yup, just waiting on 11p....just working a shiftlet tonight
I see...not too far!
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Originally Posted by JKralph

good evening
Heya stranger
Today 09:52 PM
JKralph dustin...
Today 09:45 PM
gixxerphil
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here the four hours are princess shifts
Most of the time, if I've got to be here...might as well get the full 12 in
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People. ..
Sup Rabbit
Today 09:42 PM
silver rubi People. ..
Today 09:28 PM
JKralph here the four hours are princess shifts
Today 09:19 PM
gixxerphil
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lol shiftlet
That's what we call the 4 and 8 hr shifts
Today 09:08 PM
JKralph
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Yup, just waiting on 11p....just working a shiftlet tonight
lol shiftlet
Today 09:04 PM
JKralph
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Hellooo ppl
good evening
Today 08:58 PM
gixxerphil
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Just going?

Yup, just waiting on 11p....just working a shiftlet tonight
Today 08:56 PM
sahara2011 Just going?
Today 08:44 PM
gixxerphil
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Evening Phil...how's it goin?

It's going
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sahara2011 Evening Phil...how's it goin?
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gixxerphil
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Hellooo ppl

Sahara
Today 08:12 PM
sahara2011 Hellooo ppl
Today 07:58 PM
gixxerphil
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just workin on a lil ejumahkayshun

sup with you
Just workin a bit
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Not a real site...which is quite shocking actually
This one is a great site...I LOVE it

www.obamaisthechangethatmericaneededandisthegreate stthingsinceslicedbread.com
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Turbostixxx
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Not a real site...which is quite shocking actually
Today 07:45 PM
JKralph
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Sup Griff
just workin on a lil ejumahkayshun

sup with you
Today 07:39 PM
gixxerphil
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Hey phil

Sup Griff
Today 07:38 PM
JKralph Tom: wow, I was hoping to pick your brain and you gave me exactly what I was looking for, so thank you for your insight and experience on that end. That all intellectually makes sense to me, and I appreciate what you had to say about public perception, as that's one of my chief concerns.

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guys/gals

Tom, check your blood pressure
Hey phil

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That sucks. See you guys at midnight.
Later james, see ya when you get back
Today 07:27 PM
gixxerphil
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I disagree.
I disagree with your disagreement
Today 07:23 PM
Raiderfan001
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No more arguing?! WTF?! I NEED SOME ARGUING!!
I disagree.
Today 07:18 PM
gixxerphil
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No more arguing?! WTF?! I NEED SOME ARGUING!!

www.liberal.com ?
Today 07:06 PM
Turbostixxx No more arguing?! WTF?! I NEED SOME ARGUING!!
Today 06:53 PM
Raiderfan001 Dog farts
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2004 lj
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The Wagoneer was a no go, it's a Cherokee Wagoneer.
That sucks. See you guys at midnight.
Today 06:48 PM
gixxerphil
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:wavey : phil.
The Wagoneer was a no go, it's a Cherokee Wagoneer.

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Today 06:47 PM
2004 lj
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guys/gals

Tom, check your blood pressure
:wavey : phil.
Today 06:45 PM
gixxerphil guys/gals

Tom, check your blood pressure
Today 06:45 PM
2004 lj
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Carry of any firearm or other weapon for defensive purposes is a solemn responsibility. Those of us that do (openly or concealed) are mortified by the idea, constantly promoted by the pacifists, that our behavior is more reckless because we are armed. In other words, because we carry a handgun we take more risks than we would if we were unarmed. While it would be dishonest to claim we are all responsible gun owners, it is my belief that the vast majority of us are. Regardless of what or how you carry, you need to come to the realization that you are setting yourself up to lose. Whenever you are placed in a defensive situation, you will always lose; it’s only the degree of loss that’s negotiable. Ayoob hits on this in his book, In the Gravest Extreme. He suggests tossing the robber a small wad of cash and moving off, even if you could prevail with a weapon. There’s a very good reason for this. Regardless of how skilled you are at drawing your weapon, you are going to lose. It may be only a minor loss, like being very shaken up and not sleeping well for a few days, or it may be a major loss, like becoming fertilizer, or (most likely) it may be somewhere in-between, but you always lose. Your life will not be the same even if you prevail.

Carrying a concealed firearm presents to a criminal that I am unarmed. Every study I’ve ever read, not most but every study, says that criminals will avoid an armed person or home when selecting a victim. That only makes sense, right? Robbers, rapists, or carjackers might be dumb and opportunistic, but they have the same instinctual sense of self preservation we all have. Hyenas don’t attack lions to steal the gazelle the lions have just killed. It’s all about risk management; are the potential gains (a tasty gazelle dinner) worth the risks (pain and damage the lion’s teeth will cause), and does the hyena really need to test the lion to figure out the answer? No, the hyena can see the lion’s teeth and knows to stay well clear.

Deterrent Value:
When I’m carrying concealed I feel like my ‘teeth’ are hidden, and thus of no real deterrent value. If I appear unarmed then I am unarmed in the eyes of the robber, I appear as easy a target as almost anyone else out on the street. My probability of being a victim of a crime, violent or otherwise, is completely unchanged by the fact that I have hidden beneath my shirt the means to defend myself. My goal, however, is not to be a victim in the first place, remember? I don’t want to be a victim that fought back successfully and triumphed; I prefer to not be victimized at all. I recognize that there are some people who (think they) want to be victimized so they can whip out their concealed firearm and ‘surprise’ the mugger; that is, in my opinion, foolish immaturity. Concealed carry is good; it throws a wrench in the works for criminals who might see the teeming masses as a smorgasbord of financial gain. This deterrent effect is, nonetheless, indirect and often nil. At some point the thug will weigh the risks vs. the gains; is his current desperation for money/drugs/booze/gold grille greater than the gamble that one of those people might be carrying a gun? If he decides to play the odds, which helped along with surprise tip the scale in his favor, he will attack. Will his attack allow enough time for me to draw my concealed firearm to affect a defense? Maybe, but then again, maybe not.

Remember, I don’t want to be a victim and I don’t want to shoot anyone. So how do I realize both goals; or how do I make them inclusive? I can do that through open carry. By making it clear and obvious that I am armed, that I have teeth, I tip the risk scale to the point that the criminal’s gains are far outweighed by the risk. There is no ambiguity when the thug is doing his risk assessment, there’s something right there in plain sight that can quickly and painfully change or terminate his life. You may not think his life has much value, but as I mentioned before, he has the same sense of self preservation as any other living creature and to him it’s every bit as valuable as yours is to you. It would be foolish to ignore this indisputable fact when you develop your overall tactical strategy.
Like I said. I agree with most of what you say. But not all. Opinions vary. I hope he just educates himself besides what we say. Training. Training training.
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