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07-15-2014 08:33 PM
StarBrite Wow! Sounds like you've been on quite a trek getting this all fixed!

Hope you get back to some fun mods soon!
07-15-2014 08:03 PM
spieg Bringing this back from the dead!

The alignment guys got me to about 6.2 degrees caster on both sides and I had them dial in a 1/4" of toe. This helped the tracking on the highway quite a bit.

Im on water pump number 3 after the second one finally was squeaking enough to annoy me. Allegedly they have a new part number so the hope is they actually changed something that may prevent them from wearing out every 10,000 miles. While it was in the shop they also replaced the transmission lines that are recalled. Unfortunately I scarred them up pretty bad the first time I took it offroad after that. I definitely need to get at least an engine skid picked out.

The Bestop soft doors have been a pretty big disappointment. The fitment isnt all that great, they flop all over on the highway, and they arent as portable as Id hoped. Ill probably end up selling them.

A recent trip offroading resulted in shearing off a valve stem. So much for the AEV wheels valve stem pockets protecting them!

After having the trackbar bracket reinforced, the ram assist continued to mangle it. It was splitting the steel down the angle and was destined to fail. I ordered up a new synergy trackbar bracket for it and hopefully this one holds up better. In the shop getting welded up now. While its in the shop, im having the CRC tossed on, replacing the drag link and track bar with new synergy parts (the old ones were rusting out fast, the adjusters were a major pita), and having my RCV's torn apart and inspected. They started clicking after a few hundred miles and click constantly in 4lo. In the process of all that the shop discovered one of my lower ball joints was destroyed (dynatrac prosteer balljoint). They said its the first one theyve ever seen fail. Lucky me! So thats getting replaced as well. And I figured while they had all the front end apart, they might as well cut off the crash guard and clean that up, so thats coming off too. Hopefully that will take care of any issues with the the front end for a little while.

Once I get that back from the shop ill start looking into my exhaust options with the CRC in place. That big oem muffler is on the chopping block.
05-21-2014 10:39 PM
StarBrite Looks good, spieg! Love the color of your wheels!
05-21-2014 06:49 PM
spieg I ended up having to have the trackbar bracket welded to prevent the ram from spreading it apart. It was getting progressively worse pretty quick. Should be all squared away now.

A few odds and ends updates, replaced the rear wheel bearings, rear brake pads, and serviced the rear diff at ~28,000 miles. I had a rear seal go bad and the wheel bearing was making a little noise now and then on sweeping turns.

Ordered up some hose ends to redo some of the ram assist hoses and hopefully optimize that setup as much as possible. Also stepping up to a 15" heat sink from the 12" I have now.

Took it in for an alignment today to add a couple of degrees of caster and get my toe dialed in. The tech didnt have a wrench big enough to adjust my control arms. Looks like ill be headed back tomorrow to get that fixed up.

Oh, and im really not liking the tuffy security deck. It just feels cheap all around. Might have to come up with a better option.

And I finally managed to get the doors and top off this year. The 37"s look better, but I think I shouldve gone 38" maybe...
04-26-2014 11:27 AM
spieg Ive been working on some of the little loose ends today trying to get everything all set for the jeep blessing next weekend. I got my winch lock from Factor 55 installed. I also ordered up some shock reservoir brackets from AEV to relocate the front resi's off the shock body and onto the top of the spring perch. On occasion ive been catching the hose clamps and/or reservoir when stuffing the front tires just right. Hopefully this gets them far enough out of the way that I dont have to worry about that. While I was working on that I happened to notice that my ram has tweaked my trackbar bracket a bit. I think im going to see about having some 1/4" stock or something welded in to reinforce the trackbar and stop the ram from spreading things out.

A few pics from today, the old shock resi mount, the new shock resi mount, and a shot down the trackbar of the bracket the ram is trying to spread apart on me.
04-24-2014 06:03 PM
spieg
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Originally Posted by jagerhelix View Post
I am running the Cooler that they advertise on the PSC site, can't remember the brand name though. To be honest though, between now and before I had the cooler I can't tell a difference. Not sure about your inconsistency in the steering feel. At all RPMs including idle my steering feels the same, which is super easy. I could see how the flow can have an effect on that.
I developed a slight push to the left that I need to eventually address. I think I'm just not quite centered right with my ram. But as you said, it works so well off road and locked that it's really easy for me to forgive the tiny inconveniences.
Thanks for the feedback jagerhelix! Are you running the radiator style or the heat sink style? Im not sure it would really make much difference either, so its more a curiosity than anything. If anything I might go to a slightly longer cooler for mine (im running the heat sink style, single pass). I cant really say its RPM related for sure. Or temp related really. For some reason I cant really explain when I first start the jeep after sitting for a few hours, it just steers slightly easier. Gradually over the first 5 minutes it gets maybe 10% heavier. Which is probably about 20% heavier than stock overall. Maybe im just being nit picky. Fortunately I dont have any pushing/pulling. I fought a little bit of that with my previous steering stabilizer.
04-23-2014 07:05 PM
jagerhelix I am running the Cooler that they advertise on the PSC site, can't remember the brand name though. To be honest though, between now and before I had the cooler I can't tell a difference. Not sure about your inconsistency in the steering feel. At all RPMs including idle my steering feels the same, which is super easy. I could see how the flow can have an effect on that.
I developed a slight push to the left that I need to eventually address. I think I'm just not quite centered right with my ram. But as you said, it works so well off road and locked that it's really easy for me to forgive the tiny inconveniences.
04-23-2014 06:05 PM
spieg
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Originally Posted by StarBrite View Post
Looking good, spieg!
Thanks StarBrite!

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Originally Posted by jagerhelix View Post
Nice setup Spieg! It also took me a little while to get used to the PSC system, with the steering and the antirock the jeep is definitely a different animal. I ran my PSC Ram on the supplied bracket for a while, but after hard use I would find myself having to tighten the bolt because it would eventually run itself loose. So now I have the tab for the bolt welded straight to my trackbar bracket and I haven't had a problem since. Can't tell by your pics if that's what you did as well. Just food for thought if that problem arises. Keep up the great build!
Im pretty happy with the feel I get out of the antirocks and metalcloak spring combo. Its very consistent at all speeds. Its really easy to work the suspension through curves without unsettling it. Hopefully the CRC Link doesnt change that for the worse at all. The springs dont seem to like choppy stuff all that much (like ungraded dirt roads). I think some of that may be a result of the bilstein and metalcloak spring combo. I think I could dial it out with an adjustable shock. One of these days im going to talk myself into some Kings. The PSC is still a bit of a tossup. I wouldnt want to run without it, but its so close to being perfect it always leaves me wanting a little more. When I first start my jeep and everything is cold, and the idle is up a little bit, it has a perfect feel. Just barely heavier than stock. As soon as everything is up to temp though, it gets a touch heavier. So it always leaves me wanting that lighter feel. Ive got a couple of hose ends to replace that the shop had to use for the install to make it work since PSC didnt really send an ideal setup in the kit. The shop used some short 90's that I think might be restricting the flow a tiny bit, but its on the feed line and I dont know that it will really make a difference at all. Either way, im going to swap them out with some full flow 90's and hope for the best. I talked to Kelvin at PSC about it, and they have a steering gear thats valved lighter, but he said he would advise strongly against running it on the road. That pretty much scared me off of that idea. Offroad the setup is perfect with the 37's aired down. It feels the same as it does on the road, I cant even tell im aired down from the steering. Same with the front locker on. Powers right through. I guess if the price I have to pay for that is a little heavier steering than id like on the road, I can definitely live with it. My ram tabs are welded on the trackbar bracket side and im running a single shear bolt on bracket on the tie rod. I read a lot of the single vs double shear debates and hopefully for my light wheeling, I never have to worry about breaking the single shear. The shop that did my install fab'd up a bracket for the reservoir real quick too since I didnt really like how it mounted in PSC's instructions. Its solid as can be now. What are you running for a cooler?
04-22-2014 11:24 PM
jagerhelix Nice setup Spieg! It also took me a little while to get used to the PSC system, with the steering and the antirock the jeep is definitely a different animal. I ran my PSC Ram on the supplied bracket for a while, but after hard use I would find myself having to tighten the bolt because it would eventually run itself loose. So now I have the tab for the bolt welded straight to my trackbar bracket and I haven't had a problem since. Can't tell by your pics if that's what you did as well. Just food for thought if that problem arises. Keep up the great build!
04-22-2014 09:24 PM
StarBrite Looking good, spieg!
04-22-2014 08:46 PM
spieg Ive got my soft doors ready to go on if we would ever get some decent weather. I think ill probably pick up a mopar sun bonnet to run with those and see if I like that setup enough to run without the soft top this summer. I may have to come up with a duster window solution or something to work with that setup as well. Anyone have suggestions for something that works well with the sun bonnet?

Next up after that, the full traction CRC link should be on the way, I ordered the shock reservoir brackets from AEV to relocated those, I need to settle on some skid plates, I need to replace the rear brake pads (I think im going with Hawk LTS's), I need to clean out the bearing on the Ace tire carrier in hopes of making that work a little easier/smoother, I need to cut out the crash guard, and I need to address bump stops and come up with a better solution for that (im thinking teraflex speed bumps or the king air bumps). It seems like theres always something...
04-22-2014 08:39 PM
spieg I got the tuffy security deck installed tonight. It left a little to be desired for me. For the price, I had higher expectations. I had to bend the lid to make everything fit right, which in Tuffy's defense was likely the result of it getting dented in shipping. That aside, it all just isnt quite as perfect of a fit, smooth of a function, or nice in general as I had expected given its price. Im sure ill end up keeping it, and maybe ill like it more as time goes on, but I wouldnt rank this as one of my best/favorite mods.
04-22-2014 08:36 PM
spieg I finally had a chance to give the recent mods a good shake down run. All in all im pretty happy with how its all working. The antirocks are great and made for a much more stable feel in off camber situations and when a wheel came off the ground in the rocks. The metalcloak springs are more predictable all around. They feel firmer and dont get bouncy like the AEV springs had a tendency to. The hydro assist has been a little bit heavier of a feel on the road than I expected, but I have to say off road and aired down, it felt exactly the same. Its just about the perfect feel off road. I think I still may need to do a little tweaking, but its working good so far. Its coming along!
04-13-2014 11:53 AM
spieg I polished up all of the Antirock arms with some Mothers Billet Polish today. Definitely glad I went with the aluminum arms. Theyre just so purdy.
04-03-2014 06:02 PM
spieg
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Originally Posted by PTFBrian View Post
Man that looks great
Thanks PTFBrian!
04-02-2014 08:58 PM
PTFBrian Man that looks great
04-02-2014 04:18 PM
spieg
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Originally Posted by n3tfury View Post
Great build, sir.
Thanks n3tfury!
04-02-2014 07:45 AM
n3tfury Great build, sir.
03-31-2014 09:47 PM
spieg The 4.88's have dropped my mileage a tad. Im averaging about 15.5 on the 4.88's vs about 17 on the 4.10's. That said, the 4.88's seem way more driveable. Im turning around 2700 on the highway at 70 and it can hold OD without any issues unless there is a decent hill or strong head wind. With the 4.10's it didnt take much of a breeze at all to kick it out of OD. Around town the 4.88's seem much happier, too. In spite of the drop in mileage, this was a great upgrade.

As for the metalcloak springs, the initial feel on them was that they were very stiff, even a little harsh. Im happy to say that after a couple of days, theyve mellowed out. It feels to me like they ride a tad higher than the AEV's. They are definitely a more sporty feel on the road, but also are softer on the small bumps. All around they feel more stable and the sportier feel is welcome to me. The AEV's feel more plush and floaty but small bumps like highway expansion joints, speed bumps, end of the driveway, etc were harsher with the AEV's as well. Im really liking the metalcloaks more and more each day.

The rear antirock isnt as pronounced as the front and at this point im happy with how the front and rear antirocks feel together. I dont think ill have to worry about sway on or off road again unless I end up with a CRC link in the rear and that changes something dramatically.

The hydro assist has taken a little getting used to. Its a little more sensitive on the highway than before and there is a bit of lag off idle. The install ended up using a few short 90's to get the hose routed properly and I think I may end up swapping them for some full flow 90s to see if that helps. Im hoping to improve the low rpm perfomance a bit. Im also making contact with the tie rod at full passenger lock, so there may need to be some adjustments made.

Either the springs, the antirocks, the hydro assist, or the combination of all have resulted in a dramatic improvement in handling in high winds on the highway. In the past a strong side wind would cause some body roll and push my jk pretty good. Today we had some pretty high winds and while I could feel the wind, the jeep barely budged. Its the most stable its ever felt in that scenario. Much better than stock even.
03-30-2014 08:02 PM
spieg Finally made some significant progress!

Over the last week or so the following has been completed:
  • AEV springs swapped out for the Metalcloaks
  • Front antirock bar swapped out from .800 to .850
  • Rear antirock installed
  • 4.88's installed
  • RCV's installed
  • Reid knuckles installed
  • Rear 1350 driveshaft installed
  • Hydro assist installed
The snorkel had to be temporarily disconnected until a replacement airbox can be rigged up. The stock airbox had to go to make room for the PSC reservoir. The guys at America's Most Wanted 4x4 hooked me up with a sweet bracket to keep it in place. More pics and impressions to come.
03-17-2014 09:15 PM
spieg Feel free to PM about the snorkel or just post here in the thread so everyone can learn from it. The park with the tires is Rocks and Valleys. Its in Harrison and well worth the trip. Rocks and Valleys - Welcome
03-17-2014 04:51 PM
gobluewayoflife where is the offraod park with the tires in the ground? i am in Lewiston up north half the year and would love to check that place out. \\thanks
03-17-2014 04:48 PM
gobluewayoflife
RR snorkel

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Originally Posted by spieg View Post
A couple of changes to the build have come up. Based on the 12 week lead time for Shrock Works sliders, I think im going to go with the White Knuckle sliders instead. They look pretty similar and only have a 3 week lead time. Ive also settled on just doing the rockhard engine and tranny skid for now instead of a full system. I dont think ill really need that much added protection on the bottom for the type of wheeling ive got planned. Hoping my Zeon 10-s comes in before the jeeps shake down run at Silver Lake next weekend!

Got the River Raider expedition snorkel all mounted up. I still have to connect everything under the hood for it before its functional. Im still waiting for some silicone to cure on the airbox before its ready to be finished off. I opted not to use the battery relocation kit for now and the hose still seems to fit and make its bends ok.

I am looking at the same snorkel .. I may PM you for some words of wisdom when it comes install time.

nice looking build
03-17-2014 05:44 AM
spieg
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Originally Posted by raythom3 View Post
I have been thinking about the Ace Pro Series Rear Bumper as well. In order to get the LED's installed will the bumper have to come off to get them in when you decide to install them.
Yea, the bumper will have to come back off. The led's mount inside the bumper and with the mounts they are too wide and tall to fit in through the holes. I dont have any major complaints with the bumper other than its weight. If I were in the market right now, id probably go with JCR. Similar design, almost half the weight since they use 3/16 instead of 1/4.
03-16-2014 09:51 PM
raythom3 I have been thinking about the Ace Pro Series Rear Bumper as well. In order to get the LED's installed will the bumper have to come off to get them in when you decide to install them.

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Got the 37's mounted today, they fill the wheel wells a little better than the 35's did. Im thinking maybe I shouldve gone 38's though... I had to toss the stock bumper on for now until the stubby gets back from powder coat. I ended up putting wheel spacers on but im not sure I really needed to. Once I have a chance to get to a ramp or fork lift and stretch it out, ill see how it looks flexed out.

The other day I popped the top off my intake box to look at my air filter and under the air filter was about 2" of water. In the stock setup that wouldnt be such a concern because the engine would still have to draw it up through the filter. With the river raider setup, the engine side intake gets relocated to the bottom of the airbox and I have to imagine ive fed the engine some amount of water. All I can figure is that the snorkel has been sucking in snow throughout the winter, the snow settles on the air filter, melts and drips through filling up the airbox that I sealed. Needless to say, im working on a new intake box design to solve this issue as well as make room for the PSC steering install.
03-16-2014 08:21 PM
spieg Im sure it still makes contact at full stuff. I havent really changed anything related to that yet. This coming weekend there should be a lot of progress including the Metalcloak springs. Im going to try to push the front axle back a little bit if possible and hopefully that combination will resolve it. If not, I may just ditch the sector shaft brace since the hydro assist should negate the need for it for the most part anyway. Im a lot more concerned about the tires contacting things at this point.
03-16-2014 08:08 PM
Seeuoffroad Did you get the spring to stop rubbing the sector shaft brace? If so what did you do?
03-16-2014 06:12 PM
spieg I think im officially over winter. Id really like some nicer weather to work on my jeep. Despite the frigid weather, I sold my midwidth and installed my shorty bumper this weekend. My brother in law did a great job filling the seam on the bumper and blending it in. This is how the LOD's should come if they arent going to leave the gap open in my opinion.
03-10-2014 10:17 PM
spieg Yea, those are the 37's. Thanks! The front is sitting a little high right now since there isnt any weight on it. Once I toss the stubby and winch on, thatll add 150lbs or so and should lower the front a tad. I need to remember to take some measurements before swapping out the AEV springs for the Metalcloaks, too, to see if there is much difference in lift height between the two.
03-10-2014 09:07 PM
Seeuoffroad If this pic is of the 37's I think it looks GREAT! Perfect! It looks like you got more than 3 1/2 inches of lift out of your 3 1/2 inch lift.
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