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05-20-2013 04:36 PM
mr.gladiator What SYE would you guys recommend?
04-24-2013 12:57 PM
mr.gladiator I know that i should do it right the first time, but I'm on an extremely tight budget. And work is slow, and when work is slow i don't make money. Also this is my only running driving vehicle, so i don't want to end up vehicle-less. :/
04-22-2013 07:22 PM
GoldenSahara00 Do it right the first time. That's why I have a large pile of parts at my house.
04-22-2013 07:03 PM
mr.gladiator I ordered the truss kit finally. Still holding out for the right 8.8 though. But I'm reading more and more, and people say i need the sye kit and new driveline or everything won't work right. Cause it might affect how my pinion angle needs to be set. So should i wait till i can do everything or just get it in before the d35 grenades?
04-05-2013 05:48 PM
mr.gladiator Thanks man! much help!
03-14-2013 06:33 PM
freeskier SYE will be installed this summer. I get slight vibes under load. The jeeps been sitting most of the winter because of school so it hasn't been a priority.

I hade the rear axle installed in a weekend, and that was dealing with final touches to the gears.
03-14-2013 06:20 PM
mr.gladiator that spread sheet is pretty cool. i wont need to purchase any tools, and not touching the front axle yet. so i think i can get away with less then you. but that still gives me a pretty good idea on it. did you do the SYE? how long do you think it took you to have the new rear axle installed and ready to go?
03-12-2013 08:22 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by freeskier View Post
Me myself and I.

Nice. I heard it's not too hard, just takes time to do it until you learn how. My friend taught himself and did his d30.
03-12-2013 07:20 PM
freeskier
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
Who regeared your axles?
Me myself and I.

03-12-2013 07:18 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by freeskier View Post
I'm 19 too and I guess I was 18 last year when I built my axles.

I think I was at the 2k mark all said and done. Would have been less but somehow I ended up with new chromoly shafts in the HP30.

I think I made a spreadsheet or something totaling my costs, I'll try to find it.

EDIT: Yikes!

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Who regeared your axles?
03-12-2013 06:50 PM
freeskier
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Originally Posted by mr.gladiator View Post
My front axle can wait, my front drive shaft is already out. But I'm not going to buy a brand new axle. I have access to used ones, with what I want, for pretty cheap. And i work at a shop. As far as the the sye and extra things, they will come a little later probably. I'm on a tight tight budget. I'm 19 and experiencing the joys of bills :/

What are the benefits of the hp30?
I'm 19 too and I guess I was 18 last year when I built my axles.

I think I was at the 2k mark all said and done. Would have been less but somehow I ended up with new chromoly shafts in the HP30.

I think I made a spreadsheet or something totaling my costs, I'll try to find it.

EDIT: Yikes!

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03-12-2013 06:42 PM
mr.gladiator Yeah i know, thanks! So i've decided to go with a used explorer 8.8, preferably one with 4.10s, discs, and limited slip. arctec (?) truss, and a sye kit. I just need to save up a little and order it all. I have one more question though, any sye kits you would recommend? any brand better or worse than another? Thanks!
03-09-2013 06:31 PM
GoldenSahara00 Well just make sure you get a matching geared rear end.
03-09-2013 11:15 AM
mr.gladiator The cv in my front drive shaft went bad, so that's why that's out. I have full intentions on using my four wheel drive though. I don't have intentions on getting a hp30 though, i was just curious.
03-09-2013 08:32 AM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by deucestudios View Post
Finding a hp30 4.10 is a needle in the haystack.

You put that rear in yet or what man!
Got all the stuff but the driveshaft sitting at home/in the garage, but not the time to do it. Working on my crossmember for my TT now, and skid, so everything is ready to throw on and I can get my final measurement for driveshaft length since it will be really long and I'm not sure how the drivetrain will set yet exactly. I'm so antsy haha.

I have a yard near me that has quite a few hp30s, I will hopefully find one or two that are 4.10. I'm going to look next week, and if there are 2 I am going to pull them both and sell one

Perks of living in an area where I am one of the few jeepers who actually know this kind of stuff.

There are 2-3 other yards in the area I can hit if that one turns up empty. Worst case scenario I just build a 4.10 hp44 instead
03-09-2013 08:24 AM
deucestudios
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
The only reason I said to do it was so he would have matching gears front and rear, to use 4wd.

I'm right around the same price as you for my 8.8 I think 700 is about as low as you can go really doing it right, w/ the artec at least.
Finding a hp30 4.10 is a needle in the haystack.

You put that rear in yet or what man!
03-09-2013 08:23 AM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by deucestudios View Post
I got just over $700 into mine.
That's an $80 junkyard axle 4.10/limited slip, $355 for the artec truss, all new brake calipers rotors & pads from rockauto, you need a 1310 yoke for the 8.8s pinion flange, I used a riddler differential cover for around $100, axle seals, '94 grand cherokee emergency brake cables

I have a friend who set up an 8.8 with the artec kit, stock control arms, no SYE, and got it spot on. So while it is possible, it just requires a bit more attention to angles as you install the truss. Also, if you do go SYE later on, your spring perches will be at a less desirable angle then.

I wouldn't worry about changing a LP30 to a HP30, unless you have one, or really know why you'd want one. You got all the time in the world to do that.
The only reason I said to do it was so he would have matching gears front and rear, to use 4wd.

I'm right around the same price as you for my 8.8 I think 700 is about as low as you can go really doing it right, w/ the artec at least.
03-09-2013 08:17 AM
deucestudios
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Originally Posted by mr.gladiator View Post
Wow, lots of help here! But I'm going to get an explorer 8.8 and do the truss. Just gotta budget it. Haha.
I got just over $700 into mine.
That's an $80 junkyard axle 4.10/limited slip, $355 for the artec truss, all new brake calipers rotors & pads from rockauto, you need a 1310 yoke for the 8.8s pinion flange, I used a riddler differential cover for around $100, axle seals, '94 grand cherokee emergency brake cables

I have a friend who set up an 8.8 with the artec kit, stock control arms, no SYE, and got it spot on. So while it is possible, it just requires a bit more attention to angles as you install the truss. Also, if you do go SYE later on, your spring perches will be at a less desirable angle then.

I wouldn't worry about changing a LP30 to a HP30, unless you have one, or really know why you'd want one. You got all the time in the world to do that.
03-08-2013 09:58 PM
doclouie A super 35 from Superior would be a good way to go or a Dana 44 out of a TJ. Those two would be the easiest to run 35s.
03-08-2013 09:55 PM
GoldenSahara00 I'm also 19, and building my own ford 8.8 from the junk yard. Read below in my build thread. If your fine with no 4x4 that's all good, but why do an axle swap if you don't even have 4wd? I wouldn't buy a new axle either.

The hp30 basically has the ring/pinion ride on the drive side instead of the coast side, which is a long stronger (going forwards at least). Around 30%. It bolts in and is exactly the same as the lp30 otherwise. You can upgrade the shafts and U joints and housing w/ sleeves and gussets and basically have a d44.

Stock, it basically junk ensures that your R/P don't go, so just carry spare shafts/U joints with a 35 or bigger tire.
03-08-2013 09:32 PM
mr.gladiator My front axle can wait, my front drive shaft is already out. But I'm not going to buy a brand new axle. I have access to used ones, with what I want, for pretty cheap. And i work at a shop. As far as the the sye and extra things, they will come a little later probably. I'm on a tight tight budget. I'm 19 and experiencing the joys of bills :/

What are the benefits of the hp30?
03-08-2013 09:13 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by mr.gladiator View Post
Wow, lots of help here! But I'm going to get an explorer 8.8 and do the truss. Just gotta budget it. Haha.
Welcome to my past 3 months and my next 2. Have fun. I was looking at 1700 initially for everything I wanted ( 8.8 w/ 4.10s and LSD, matching front axle (hp30) tummy tuck, sye, cv, artec truss, all new brake parts, diff cover, etc etc) and Am not looking at right around 1000 for everything. I did the TT because with the offset of the 8.8 I didn't want to gamble on vibes, and since I was welding the brackets and can set my pinion angle to anything I want, it was a great time to add the sye and cv and tt because I don't need arms since I can adjust my angle through welding and center the axle that way.
03-08-2013 09:07 PM
mr.gladiator Wow, lots of help here! But I'm going to get an explorer 8.8 and do the truss. Just gotta budget it. Haha.
03-08-2013 06:08 PM
Mulvihill64
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Originally Posted by ives View Post

Actually the ECGS TJ 8.8 would run about $1200-$1800 or more with other options. The $700 is just the base to start the build. Cheaper alternative to G2 or Superior D44 bolts in's.
I priced mine out and it came to about $1k but yeah the base price starts at 700
03-08-2013 06:06 PM
5spdftw
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Originally Posted by lovemachine View Post
Get a Super 35 kit and pray?

From what I have been reading, that's true unless its made by Superior.

I have been reading lots of good things about them.
My Jeep's Super 35 was grenaded by the previous owner on 35s. To each his own but knowing the kind of wheeling that I do I would not trust any D35 under the back, especially locked with 35s.
03-08-2013 08:15 AM
NC Bear
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Originally Posted by ives View Post
Actually the ECGS TJ 8.8 would run about $1200-$1800 or more with other options. The $700 is just the base to start the build. Cheaper alternative to G2 or Superior D44 bolts in's.

Which is exactly why I went with ECGS and the 8.8, I got the entire project for less than the coast of a G2 set up similarly but with drums.
03-08-2013 07:43 AM
ives
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Originally Posted by Mulvihill64 View Post
Ecgs sells a bolt in 8.8 for the t for $700. That is the route I will go when I get rid of the d35
Actually the ECGS TJ 8.8 would run about $1200-$1800 or more with other options. The $700 is just the base to start the build. Cheaper alternative to G2 or Superior D44 bolts in's.
03-08-2013 06:41 AM
GoldenSahara00 I'm building an 8.8 currently. 4.10 8.8 w/ LSD, all new brakes, etc, flange adapter, artec truss, SOLID cover, new bearing and seals and it would be around 850 if I didn't do smart shopping. I will be doing that whole build, plus a sye/cv and a custom x member and tummy tuck, for right around 1000. I could have done it all even cheaper by going with a cheaper bracket kit, shortening a front driveshaft from another vehicle instead of buying a new CV, and reusing more of the stock brakes and seals and bearings.

Yes there is a heck of a lot more time involved in building your own, but as a college student who works part time, my time isn't worth nearly as much as it will be in 6 years.
03-08-2013 05:47 AM
NC Bear I did the bolt in 8.8 from ECGS and with new gearing (front and rear), new brakes, calipers, SYE and driveshaft, new limited slip, 3 inch BDS lift and labor was 3300.00

I am very happy with the axle and work the guys at ECGS did for me.

(they were very fast, 2 days to build the axle, and 1 to do all the labor.)
03-07-2013 08:38 PM
Mulvihill64 Ecgs sells a bolt in 8.8 for the t for $700. That is the route I will go when I get rid of the d35
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