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Today 01:18 PM
billp911 You do not need the camera hooked up to flash the radio. And charging you over $100 is BS. It took the dealer 5 min to get it done. Time to find another dealer.
Today 01:15 PM
Argent
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Originally Posted by CajunMexican View Post
I just called the 2 dealerships near me. One of them knew exactly what I was talking about and quoted me $113. The other had to check in to it and call me back. When they called back they said the camera has to be connected for them to flash it because the radio has to 'see' the camera connected to it in order to enable that option and that it would also be around $113 to flash. That doesn't seem to be correct as several on here have flashed and then added the camera.

So seems like it's going to cost me $113 to flash (obviously I will bring it to the dealership that knows what they're talking about) plus camera and pigtail so under $200 to add a backup camera isn't too bad.
Correct - I had mine flashed (to make sure it actually worked) before I bothered drilling a hole in my bumper and installing my camera. I knew it worked because when I put it in reverse the screen switched over to a black screen that said Check your entire surroundings.
Today 12:20 PM
CajunMexican I just called the 2 dealerships near me. One of them knew exactly what I was talking about and quoted me $113. The other had to check in to it and call me back. When they called back they said the camera has to be connected for them to flash it because the radio has to 'see' the camera connected to it in order to enable that option and that it would also be around $113 to flash. That doesn't seem to be correct as several on here have flashed and then added the camera.

So seems like it's going to cost me $113 to flash (obviously I will bring it to the dealership that knows what they're talking about) plus camera and pigtail so under $200 to add a backup camera isn't too bad.
Today 09:48 AM
Argent
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
IMHO, it more that they are mechanics not computer programmers. So, we're asking them to do a task for which they might not feel all that comfortable.

Because of that fear, and a need to cover-their-ass, I guess they need to add time into their quote to cover if things taking longer, or they simply refuse to do it.

I will concede, sometimes it isn't as simple as flipping a bit. Chrysler might require them to do a full firmware upgrade first and all sorts of things could go wrong when doing that. Plus, they not only have to update your car, they have to update Chrysler's master database. I mean, I can log into the owner's website, and it will show that I had the Parkview Rear Camera option added to my Jeep at the dealership.

We all know, and accept too, that if we reflash our DVR or phone, there is some chance we will "brick" it. "Bricking" a car is a far worse.
My tech friend who reflashed mine for me - asked if it was my hair brained scheme to try and do this - he had zero confidence that it would actually work.....until it did. But yeah technically if its done at the dealership and they brick it doing something 'non-standard' they are then on the hook to fix it. Now two thoughts about dealership pricing for said flash - either they don't want to try doing it - so they figure they'll toss out a big number that most people wouldn't pay for and you'll go away (and then if it goes south its not their problem) or they're willing to try it - and soak you for whatever they think you'll pay (in the interest of making money - because nothing is 'free' at a dealership)
Today 09:32 AM
panthermark I really like the plate mounted version. Even though I have the Gino camera in my bumper that I love...I just added that plate mounted version to my wish list. If I ever get ahold of a 10A bumper for nearly free, I'll need a new camera.
Today 09:31 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by KPM171 View Post
Anyone have any insight why the differences b/t dealerships? Is it a liability issue perhaps?
IMHO, it more that they are mechanics not computer programmers. So, we're asking them to do a task for which they might not feel all that comfortable.

Because of that fear, and a need to cover-their-ass, I guess they need to add time into their quote to cover if things taking longer, or they simply refuse to do it.

I will concede, sometimes it isn't as simple as flipping a bit. Chrysler might require them to do a full firmware upgrade first and all sorts of things could go wrong when doing that. Plus, they not only have to update your car, they have to update Chrysler's master database. I mean, I can log into the owner's website, and it will show that I had the Parkview Rear Camera option added to my Jeep at the dealership.

We all know, and accept too, that if we reflash our DVR or phone, there is some chance we will "brick" it. "Bricking" a car is a far worse.
Today 08:57 AM
KPM171
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Originally Posted by Fleche View Post
I was getting a speaker replaced today and my dealer tried to charge me $115 to flash the radio. I said I'd go elsewhere...
I really wish all the dealerships would get on the same page with this service. Just charge the 0.5 hrs (or free for kick a$$ customers) of labor to flash that code and be done with it. Some dealerships want closer to $150 and others don't seem to want to perform a simple flash in the first place.

Anyone have any insight why the differences b/t dealerships? Is it a liability issue perhaps?
Today 07:29 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Fleche View Post
I was getting a speaker replaced today and my dealer tried to charge me $115 to flash the radio. I said I'd go elsewhere...
Sounds like they are trying to charge their standard one-hour minimum, even though we're talking about just minutes of work to flash.
Yesterday 08:39 PM
Fleche
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Originally Posted by billp911 View Post
Just installed the camera on my 2015. Total time less then three hours and $40 from AMAZON. Had the dealer activate the 430N while I did the paperwork. No charge. Works great.
I was getting a speaker replaced today and my dealer tried to charge me $115 to flash the radio. I said I'd go elsewhere...
Yesterday 07:04 PM
billp911 Just installed the camera on my 2015. Total time less then three hours and $40 from AMAZON. Had the dealer activate the 430N while I did the paperwork. No charge. Works great.
Yesterday 11:59 AM
wrix Dang! I like the license plate mount even better! May go that route if someone snaps mine off! Thought it would be $100, shocked it's only $17!
08-19-2014 08:28 PM
chargermop Oops I forgot to add a link I'm sure someone will be asking.


CCD Color Car Back Up Rear View Reverse Parking Camera for JEEP Wrangler 2012-2013 by lovelive-5 stars http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GTT7B3K/..._lM.8tb1GQH126
08-19-2014 08:25 PM
chargermop Well I sense I got a swing away rear tire carrier my old camera mount on top of the old tire carrier would no longer work this was posted a while back on Amazon so I purchase this new camera and it works fantastic very easy to mount very easy to route the wires. The view is offset to the driver side but once you understand that its not centered it works just as well and it's not in the way anymore and no modifications to the vehicle whatsoever.
08-19-2014 08:14 PM
wrix Here's the pics of the Home Depot 1/2" pipe holder now camera holder. I wanted to find something that anyone could buy with no modifications needed. Just bent it to the right hight. May add a plastic cover to fill in wheel hole and push camera thru that. No need to remove/drill thru bumper with this set up.
08-19-2014 01:35 PM
Argent
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Originally Posted by gallons View Post
I see people having success using the PAC cable with the 430N unit. Can anyone confirm it working on the 430? I have a 2014 manual with the 430. I see how the camera gets power from the backup light, so that wouldn't be an issue.

Thanks
I used this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051XBNDY/

and this

Amazon.com : Gino 1/4" CCD Flush Mount Waterproof Truck Car Reverse Backup Rear View Camera : Vehicle Backup Cameras : Car Electronics

and a female/female video connector

on my 2014 manual trans with the 430 (non N) radio and it works just fine after having the dealer flash it for me.

08-19-2014 11:03 AM
ikanspelwel I really don't like splicing into the factory wiring so when I installed mine I purchased this T-Connector (http://amzn.com/B001GN29LI) for adding a 4-Way trailer connector and spliced into the reverse wire within this harness. I already had factory installed tow package so I didn't need an additional trailer connector so I just cut off and soldered the rest of the wires back together. There is probably cheaper ways to find the male/female plugs you would need to make your own harness but I was short on time and the $20 didn't break my bank.

P.S. Make sure you get the correct harness for your Jeep.
08-19-2014 10:54 AM
Fleche
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
For my backup camera wire harness, I picked up power from the backup lamp wire, located in the passenger side kick panel, in the large wire bundle you'll find there. If I remember correctly, it is white with a silver (lt gray) stripe.
I'll dig for it again. Thanks for the info.
08-19-2014 10:09 AM
ConradCalvin Love this write-up! subscribed!
08-19-2014 09:56 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Fleche View Post
Anyone know where I can find a back-up only power line in the dash area of a '14 JKU? Trying to run a wireless backup camera instead of stringing the video cable. Unfortunately, the wireless receiver gets way too hot if I power it all the time, but for the life of me, I can't find the reverse power in the front of my Jeep.
For my backup camera wire harness, I picked up power from the backup lamp wire, located in the passenger side kick panel, in the large wire bundle you'll find there. If I remember correctly, it is white with a silver (lt gray) stripe.
08-19-2014 09:38 AM
Fleche Anyone know where I can find a back-up only power line in the dash area of a '14 JKU? Trying to run a wireless backup camera instead of stringing the video cable. Unfortunately, the wireless receiver gets way too hot if I power it all the time, but for the life of me, I can't find the reverse power in the front of my Jeep.
08-19-2014 09:17 AM
gallons I see people having success using the PAC cable with the 430N unit. Can anyone confirm it working on the 430? I have a 2014 manual with the 430. I see how the camera gets power from the backup light, so that wouldn't be an issue.

Thanks
08-18-2014 01:31 PM
Joecam I just cut two notches on that ledge and zip tied it for now (until I rivet it down). However, you would probably be better off with your camera, just don't bend the bracket and cut a hole in it for the camera.
08-18-2014 12:30 PM
wrix How are you holding the camera onto the top aluminum piece? Oh, now I see that your camera came with a base to screw down. Mine just has the puch in clip to keep it flush when reset into a hole.
08-18-2014 12:23 PM
Joecam
My Backup Cam setup

I just did this last week, using this camera bought on Amazon for $20 Amazon.com : Esky EC170-06 World Smallest HD Color CCD Waterproof Vehicle Car Rear View Backup Camera, 170 Degree Viewing Angle Rearview Camera(0.86*0.65*0.50 inch) : Vehicle Video Products : Car Electronics (even has the line guides) and used the Lockpick V5 on my 430N and it works beautifully. I fabricated a camera mount in the spare tire from some 1 1/2 wide aluminum I brought from HomeDepot. basically just make a cross held together with rivets and drilled holes in the bottom 3 holes (to put on the spare tire mount and then bolted the spare back on) and bent the top part over and mounted the camera on it. It works well and is almost impossible to see and required no drilling or modification. The lockpick even knows when it is in reverse from the front, so you don't even need to tap into the reverse light (but I had already done it).

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08-18-2014 12:12 PM
weissja36
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
Just confirming after my install (amazon cable and camera on 430n) that everything works perfect even with manual tranny! I'm mounting behind the spare. Bought a 1/2" copper pipe hanger that I rattle canned flat black. Will drill holes in tire support and use some screws to hold it in place. Totally flexible so I can bend it to get the right hight and angle it down to see behind jeep. I. Love. This. Mod!
Post pics when finished!
08-18-2014 12:03 PM
wrix Just confirming after my install (amazon cable and camera on 430n) that everything works perfect even with manual tranny! I'm mounting behind the spare. Bought a 1/2" copper pipe hanger that I rattle canned flat black. Will drill holes in tire support and use some screws to hold it in place. Totally flexible so I can bend it to get the right hight and angle it down to see behind jeep. I. Love. This. Mod!
08-14-2014 03:28 PM
LabCab
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"And the flippin spare is in the frame."
Bonus: Camera acts as a spare tire security camera, albeit only while in reverse.

Thanks to all forum members for posting their comments/feedback, and especially to those that provided step-by-step install instruction. Just ordered a Gino CCD camera & OEM's My Gig harness.
07-31-2014 02:36 PM
wrix Thank you!
07-31-2014 10:27 AM
KPM171
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
Thank you both! I was asking about the radio harness for the radio but was curious about the camera power too! Have a manual and was waiting till someone confirmed that this works for a stick shift. Had watched the great videos posted above but I'm not that great at splicing wires. I prefer clamps and clips. Will def check out the pics posted above!
I have a manual trans too. Feel free to PM with any specific questions as you do your install.
07-31-2014 10:23 AM
wrix Thank you both! I was asking about the radio harness for the radio but was curious about the camera power too! Have a manual and was waiting till someone confirmed that this works for a stick shift. Had watched the great videos posted above but I'm not that great at splicing wires. I prefer clamps and clips. Will def check out the pics posted above!
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