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09-11-2013 04:19 PM
panthermark It has been great...
I'm guessing the Spiderwebshade will add years to the life of the leather/pleather because the interior never really sits in the directsun (not any more than what would happen with windows).

I've only conditioned my interior once since I had the Jeep. Then again, I've only washed it twice.
09-11-2013 11:41 AM
JKmuder 303 huh! Never thought of that .. I use lexol like once a week hahah
09-11-2013 08:34 AM
AUskier Since this thread'a poped back up I thought I'd update...

I hated the bikini top - sold it and bought a 2013 premium soft top on Craig's list. Love it. Honestly it sits folded down on my duster 75% of the time, but its there for the rain or quick use if I need to be out of the wind/elements.

I also bought a red spiderweb shade. Love it too! My black leather seats are never too hot to sit on with it. Much cooler on hot Texas summer days.

This summer my jeeps probably been topless a total of 3 months time out of the last 4 months. After 2 summers of that I see no adverse wear or fading on my leather/vinyl seats. I'm still using 303 with an occasional lexol leather cleaner and treatment.

I'm still sold on the "leather" seats being the best option for guys/gals who plan to run topless as much as possible.
09-10-2013 09:44 AM
Fellows
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Originally Posted by JKmuder View Post
Wondering if this red leather will fade while going topless most of the time..
Yep. The leather coating will probably be creased and cracked before then though.
09-10-2013 09:07 AM
JKmuder Wondering if this red leather will fade while going topless most of the time..
08-27-2013 06:14 AM
cornfedksboy Mine has done well through the summer with minimal treatment. I don't run topless everyday though as we do get rain.
08-27-2013 05:08 AM
JKmuder How's the leather holding up for everyone ? Do you use seat covers in the summer?
06-27-2013 06:49 PM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC View Post
If you are planning on running with the top off a lot (I'd still suggest somthing like a spiderwebshade to keep the UV exposure lower) personally, I would purchase some inexpensive seat covers. No matter what you put on the leather, the UV will take it's toll on it. Remember, leather is an organic substance and will dryrot.
Tell that to this guy WTF: BMW Boasts Leather Exterior? | Imagine Lifestyles Luxury Blog
06-27-2013 11:10 AM
NFRs2000NYC If you are planning on running with the top off a lot (I'd still suggest somthing like a spiderwebshade to keep the UV exposure lower) personally, I would purchase some inexpensive seat covers. No matter what you put on the leather, the UV will take it's toll on it. Remember, leather is an organic substance and will dryrot.
06-27-2013 10:49 AM
michiganadam
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Originally Posted by Rideakf-350 View Post
Just got caught in some rain on the morning while the jeep was topless it's a '13 rubicon should I have to worry about the speakers messing up since the got wet?
I dont think its GOOD to get them wet but ive been caught in the rain a few times in my jeep. Nothing ever happened to the speakers.

If they do get damaged replace them with speakers that have a plastic cone and rubber seal around the cone. I believe Alpines have a rubber seal. Most speakers have a foam seal, this will get damaged by water. The rubber seal will make them just as water resistant as a marine speaker. I know this from thorough research when I almost built a boat once.
06-27-2013 10:46 AM
michiganadam Convertibles usually have leather interiors. Even cheap ones. It's actually a better material for the seats in a convertible. Mostly because it's easier to clean bird crap off of though.

Why don't you guys keep your top with you? That's what soft tops are for.
06-27-2013 10:17 AM
jkmohican I have had my jeeps leather out in the sun for almost two years no, no real problems. A little more rough, but not a big deal. But now I use leather honey, which is honestly the best thing I ever bought. After cleaning the seats every couple months, I apply this conditioner and it blackens them and makes them extremely smooth and is water resistant. Water rolls right off the seats. The must admit, leather is the best interior to go when it comes to cleaning. After wheeling or a down pour, it's so easy to just wipe it and continue. I couldn't stand cloth, you made the right choice.
06-27-2013 10:07 AM
Rideakf-350 Just got caught in some rain on the morning while the jeep was topless it's a '13 rubicon should I have to worry about the speakers messing up since the got wet?
06-24-2013 11:49 AM
JKmuder This leather seems to be pretty ridged. Startjnf to like it more over fabric. I just have to remind myself no knives in the back pocket.. Lol
06-03-2013 10:54 AM
DFW6ER
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Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
I got caught in the rain on Friday....
Meh...just wiped it down and pulled up a bit of the carpets to help it dry.

Was bummed at first, but hey...it's a Jeep...and the leather/pleather is pretty rugged. I was glad that I didn't have cloth seats because it would have soaked into the cushions.
This happened twice to me in the last 2 weeks...bikini top helped a bit but still got standing water in the foot wells. I toweled off the seats, pulled the drain plugs and shop vac'd it, then let her sit in the sun and all was well 48 hrs later. Now I keep a harbor freight tarp and some bungee cords in the rear storage area which is easy/quick to use as soon as it starts raining and keeps all but sideways rain from coming in.
06-03-2013 10:51 AM
DFW6ER
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Originally Posted by Gort View Post
I can't speak for the 2013s, but my understanding is that on the 2012s and back, on the standard "leather-trimmed" seats, only the center portion of the seat and back is actually leather. The bolsters and headrest are vinyl/Naugahyde/whatever. If you rub your fingertips across the seat from the bolster to the center portion you can actually feel the texture difference (well, at least I can feel the difference). My understanding is that the Katzkins, OTOH, are all leather.

I keep after mine with leather conditioner at regular intervals.
Yup...my 2012 is leather on the center portions, backs and sides are artificial.
06-03-2013 08:02 AM
NHflannelman12JK76CJ5 Took the top off this weekend. Got a nasty T-Storm and downpours yesterday. Had about two inches in the bottom and have drained most of it (found the plugs, not all are easily accessible.

It looks like removing and then putting the carpet back in is going to such - any suggestions?
06-03-2013 06:18 AM
JKmuder
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Originally Posted by Lithium Lotus View Post
You will want to buy Meguiar's leather cleaning wipes by the case. They have moisturizers in the wipes to help the leather.
I use these about once a week in my 10 A


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06-03-2013 06:05 AM
panthermark I got caught in the rain on Friday....
Meh...just wiped it down and pulled up a bit of the carpets to help it dry.

Was bummed at first, but hey...it's a Jeep...and the leather/pleather is pretty rugged. I was glad that I didn't have cloth seats because it would have soaked into the cushions.
06-02-2013 09:49 PM
Swayze79
Caught in the Rain

So today I was driving my 2012 Call of Duty with the top off and it just started to pour. I didn't let it get to me and was laughing at all the people looking at me as it's pouring rain. As I was under the impression that jeeps were made to get hosed down and had drains in them but maybe that's older models.

Than I got to thinking about the type of seats I have and wanted to make sure they wouldn't get ruined as they have special stitching in them to represent the model and I'd like to keep it in good looking shape. Any advice on how to prevent any future damage from this event.

Thanks for any advice
03-25-2013 12:44 PM
Gort
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Originally Posted by reissc1 View Post
I have the black leather as well. I definitely don't think there is much leather in there.
I can't speak for the 2013s, but my understanding is that on the 2012s and back, on the standard "leather-trimmed" seats, only the center portion of the seat and back is actually leather. The bolsters and headrest are vinyl/Naugahyde/whatever. If you rub your fingertips across the seat from the bolster to the center portion you can actually feel the texture difference (well, at least I can feel the difference). My understanding is that the Katzkins, OTOH, are all leather.

I keep after mine with leather conditioner at regular intervals.
03-25-2013 12:22 PM
cornfedksboy
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Originally Posted by rddavisjr View Post
I agree with this. I used a cheap wired drill when I installed my hoist. The drill was ruined when I was done and i discarded it. Also, I purchased the bolts recommended in the instructions to attach the 2x6's to the ceiling from Home Depot. I broke two of the heads off of the bolts. So be careful not to do this. Finally, I would have a high quality larger size ratchet set to do this. I worked up a sweat tightening the bolts.

In my opinion, this is definitely a two man job.
At least I know ahead of time.
03-25-2013 10:20 AM
rddavisjr
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Originally Posted by greech View Post

When you install that hoist, if you don't have an impact gun, I HIGHLY recommend you rent or borrow one. I used an electric drill to get the lag bolts into the rafters as far as it would drive them then finished by wratcheting them the rest of the way in. A good arm workout for sure, but a pain in the arse doing it upside-down above your head...
I agree with this. I used a cheap wired drill when I installed my hoist. The drill was ruined when I was done and i discarded it. Also, I purchased the bolts recommended in the instructions to attach the 2x6's to the ceiling from Home Depot. I broke two of the heads off of the bolts. So be careful not to do this. Finally, I would have a high quality larger size ratchet set to do this. I worked up a sweat tightening the bolts.

In my opinion, this is definitely a two man job.
03-25-2013 07:40 AM
greech
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Originally Posted by cornfedksboy View Post
I think, in addition to regular care, I'm going to get a spidershade or similar top, tonneau cover, seat towel, and emergency top. Harken hoist too!
When you install that hoist, if you don't have an impact gun, I HIGHLY recommend you rent or borrow one. I used an electric drill to get the lag bolts into the rafters as far as it would drive them then finished by wratcheting them the rest of the way in. A good arm workout for sure, but a pain in the arse doing it upside-down above your head...
03-25-2013 07:32 AM
greech
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Originally Posted by AUskier View Post

I've also been using an awesome app on my iPhone called dark sky:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dark...517329357?mt=8

It uses the GPS in your phone plus local radar to predict down to the minute when it's going to start raining on you and for how long into the future it will rain. I have it set up to alert me at a sprinkle and its been awesome! Check it out if you have an iPhone or look for something similar on whatever you use.
This is called "Cloudy Sky" in the Android market. Great app!
03-25-2013 07:26 AM
cornfedksboy I think, in addition to regular care, I'm going to get a spidershade or similar top, tonneau cover, seat towel, and emergency top. Harken hoist too!
03-25-2013 07:18 AM
reissc1 I have the black leather as well. I definitely don't think there is much leather in there. I have it about a year and a half, and the seats look like new. I use the 303 regularly, and I run a spiderweb shade. The shade helps greatly. I've been lucky enough to not get caught in the rain yet. So, I'm not sure how they will fare. I do not carry an emergency top just in case.
03-25-2013 01:52 AM
krawdaddy
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Originally Posted by cornfedksboy View Post
I can't be the only guy to go topless with leather. What have others done?
Haven't had the opportunity yet
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Originally Posted by dieselgiant View Post
Ahhhhh because a cow is living and the leather is dead.

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Originally Posted by bloodfart View Post
There's probably no cow at all in the pleather seats this aint no top grain expensive couch
it's an odd leather. Feels very tough. Not soft and supple
03-25-2013 12:36 AM
bloodfart
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Originally Posted by dieselgiant View Post

Ahhhhh because a cow is living and the leather is dead.
There's probably no cow at all in the pleather seats this aint no top grain expensive couch
03-24-2013 09:27 PM
dieselgiant
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Originally Posted by krawdaddy View Post
why would rain be bad on leather? Rain doesn't affect cows.

Ahhhhh because a cow is living and the leather is dead.
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