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09-30-2014 10:00 AM
netminder32
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Originally Posted by David-T-71 View Post
Bluetooth streaming was one of my must haves when purchasing a new Jeep. I opted to take the 430 that was included in my Sahara package. I have been very disappointed in the Bluetooth streaming quality. Music will skip beats and every few minutes just stop for a second or two. I have tested my iPhone with several other cars and even more bluetooth receivers and this is the only device that has issues. The dealership says they can't replicate the problem and uconnect support reports that the unit is working as designed. I am now looking at aftermarket options which makes me only more upset. In order to keep the steering wheel controls and the connectivity options working it will be over $400 in parts and installation costs.
My wife's 2012 JKU with the 430N has the same problem. The music skips beats about every minute or so when using bluetooth. Has anyone encountered a "cure" for this?
05-24-2013 06:55 AM
Aeschylus
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Originally Posted by County98 View Post
I like my 430N and glad I went with it. It's not a perfect choice if you're gonna add amps and stuff.

I went with it because it's factory and dont have to worry about it getting stolen.

Honestly, if your radio is going to stay at conversation level most of the time, it'll be a nice setup.
I agree with all of the above.

Personally, I do not think the 430 is a bad radio, nor do I think the sound system in general is bad. It is never going to be as good as a 5000$ Bang and Olufsen system in a luxury car, but it does not aim or pretend to be.

Audiophiles may disagree, but when I get into my truck, I am not expecting to hear the sound equivalent of a perfectly balanced and designed surround sound system.

For what it is, I think it is a decent system.
05-24-2013 03:49 AM
County98 I like my 430N and glad I went with it. It's not a perfect choice if you're gonna add amps and stuff.

I went with it because it's factory and dont have to worry about it getting stolen.

I swapped out the speakers, did some polyfill and dynamat and it sounds pretty good to me. It's all relative though.

Built in Nav is nice, HDD is really nice for me (Wife's Nav Kenwood doesnt have it) Sirious sound isnt great at all, but it's free for a year which is nice on trips.

Honestly, if your radio is going to stay at conversation level most of the time, it'll be a nice setup.

I'm adding a Garmin for camping and offroading, but it's because I want to be able to take it with me.
05-24-2013 12:18 AM
David-T-71 Bluetooth streaming was one of my must haves when purchasing a new Jeep. I opted to take the 430 that was included in my Sahara package. I have been very disappointed in the Bluetooth streaming quality. Music will skip beats and every few minutes just stop for a second or two. I have tested my iPhone with several other cars and even more bluetooth receivers and this is the only device that has issues. The dealership says they can't replicate the problem and uconnect support reports that the unit is working as designed. I am now looking at aftermarket options which makes me only more upset. In order to keep the steering wheel controls and the connectivity options working it will be over $400 in parts and installation costs.
03-26-2013 10:33 PM
Boneman I went with a Nexus 7 tablet with the CoPilot app.

Google Nexus 7 - $200
CoPilot app - $7
ProClip dash cradle - $70

My wife has the 720 in her Grand Cherokee, and my dad has the 430. I like my set up much better than both.





Or your phone (iphone, proclip cradle).



03-26-2013 09:41 PM
joeg679
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Originally Posted by wilmerc76 View Post
Easy, and yes a thumb drive.

Thanks!
03-26-2013 09:40 PM
wilmerc76
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Originally Posted by joeg679 View Post
How easy is it to save songs to the hard drive? Do you have to put them on a thumb drive first and then upload?
Easy, and yes a thumb drive.
03-26-2013 09:26 PM
joeg679 How easy is it to save songs to the hard drive? Do you have to put them on a thumb drive first and then upload?
03-26-2013 09:23 PM
Green Weenie I just got a Sahara with the 430 and I'm loving it. Garmin nav is great, easy to use with the touch screen. The radio quiets down when directions are announced, so you don't miss a turn. You also get directions on the heads up display (not sure what is called, but where you get your tire pressure indicator, temperature and more). So you don't have to look at the navigation display, as its right in front of you.

Also, Sirus is simple to use with touch screen and works well. Haven't tried the hard drive yet, but looks promising.

For calls - My phone (galaxy 3) is working great as well. Haven't had any people complain on the quality of the call as well.

As for a few negatives, the resolution is not that great and the sound is good not great. All in all the 430 is a solid choice. I'm very happy with it...
03-26-2013 09:09 PM
Got Snow 730 is my choice...Good luck!
03-26-2013 09:07 PM
cornfedksboy I don't think the 430n is a bang for your buck bargain, and it doesn't aim to be. It's set up to integrate a receiver (AM/FM/Sat), CD/DVD player, touch screen, navigation unit, bluetooth phone/mobile device player, and hard drive into a seamless system that matches up to your steering wheel controls with ZERO effort. To me, that's worth a lot. It's easy to use and I have had no trouble with maps or with blue tooth. The music is okay, but the satellite is too compressed.

This set-up is perfect for the plug and play consumer, but not ideal for the audiophile or for the tech geek. Buy it if you find it as added value.
03-26-2013 08:42 PM
basecamper I love my 430N, love the NAV, and really like the bluetooth music from my I phone works so well I never use anything else. I did upgrade to kicker speakers and used dynamat and polyfil on all five enclosures but I have no regrets at all. Having said that i'm sure you can find a awesome system for the $1200 I have into this one
03-26-2013 08:24 PM
krawdaddy
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Originally Posted by unusedusername View Post
The 430N is not worth it in my opinion.

I've got one in my Jeep (2013 JKR) and I'm going to pull it out this summer for something better.

I'm going to be brutally harsh:

The Nav is using the old Navteq maps from years ago before they fixed all the offramps around here. The service department has told me I'm running the latest version of the maps.

When streaming audio, the bluetooth skips. This means either they didn't follow the bluetooth spec properly, or they used too small a memory buffer, or there is constant RF interference that my Wife's car and my old car are somehow magically immue to.
My maps are up to date, showing all the new stuff in/around the ATL area, and I have had zero bluetooth issues. No skipping or interference. I use Pandora or Beyondpod app for podcasts. Weird. I'm using a GS3 and had an iPhone4 when I first got it.
03-26-2013 06:55 AM
Master Blaster Pricing up a new Wrangler unlimited and trying to decide on sticking with the base 130 radio along with connectivity option. Or opting for the 430N.

Get the 430N. You won't regret it. I used the similar nav system in my '07 JK and have the 430N it in my '13 JKSU and use it all the time. Comparing it to a portable GPS system isn't a fair comparison because the 430N does so much more. I also recommend the UConnect system because the phone audio streaming and Bluetooth system is off the hook.
03-26-2013 06:45 AM
KllrDave
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Originally Posted by cornfedksboy View Post

Its coming. Five years ago most of America had tube TVs and flat panels were ridiculous expensive. In less than 10 years I imagine it will be standard for your tablet and/or phone to snap in to the dash and act as a head unit for your stereo.
No...that's where these 'futurists' have got it wrong. Docking your device into a head unit poses way too many issues of compatibility (as anyone who upgraded from an old iPhone to an iPhone5 can attest to).

What I and everyone else wants (even if they don't realize it yet) is a decent size screen (like we have now in our dash) that links to our devices. Mirror the display of the device on the in-dash screen and make any touch actions taken on the in-dash screen come thru on the device.

THAT is the future.
03-26-2013 12:16 AM
unusedusername The 430N is not worth it in my opinion.

I've got one in my Jeep (2013 JKR) and I'm going to pull it out this summer for something better.

I'm going to be brutally harsh:

The Nav is using the old Navteq maps from years ago before they fixed all the offramps around here. The service department has told me I'm running the latest version of the maps.

When streaming audio, the bluetooth skips. This means either they didn't follow the bluetooth spec properly, or they used too small a memory buffer, or there is constant RF interference that my Wife's car and my old car are somehow magically immue to.

Oh and the speakers are crappy paper cones, they didn't even bother to seal the subwoofer enclosure, and for some reason that is beyond me, they used fancy component tweater speakers in the front and ye-olde basic cones in the rear, making balancing the system impossible.

Now it is true that this just does not matter that much on a car without a roof, but still for what they are charging for this system it is a total rip-off.

On the plus side, the phone integration microphone pickup is impressive considering the background noise, when it is not dropping out entirely due to the aforementioned bluetooth issue...

For screen mirroring, look at the Alpine and Pioneer "Appradio" models. It is already available, but not yet iPhone 5 ready. Those come out in summer.
03-25-2013 09:59 PM
cornfedksboy
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Originally Posted by KllrDave View Post
Why can't these car manufacturers just give us a screen that mirrors the display on our phones?


Now THAT is an option I'd pay for.
Its coming. Five years ago most of America had tube TVs and flat panels were ridiculous expensive. In less than 10 years I imagine it will be standard for your tablet and/or phone to snap in to the dash and act as a head unit for your stereo.
03-25-2013 09:53 PM
KllrDave Why can't these car manufacturers just give us a screen that mirrors the display on our phones?


Now THAT is an option I'd pay for.
03-25-2013 09:45 PM
joeg679 So when u install the lockpick, it gives you a port to plug the iphone, ipad into to get video?
03-25-2013 09:24 PM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by black betty2012 View Post
I've heard the 430n will plug n play to 130 as long as it has Bluetooth, Sirius and connectivity group? Anyone know?
Yes, if you get the proper unit, both the 430N and 430 RBZ are 100% plug in play with a 130 that has Sirius and the Connectivity package.
03-25-2013 09:23 PM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by relyt View Post
The RBZ is the non-navigation version of the RHB. it isn't offered from the factory on the wranglers, but come as optional equipment on a lot of Chrysler vehicles. You can pick up good working used examples for about $300-350 all day long on eBay.
Yup....and I was able to snipe someone at 4:45 in the morning to get mine for $260 shipped.
03-25-2013 08:40 PM
ENGINE66 I currently have 730N in 13' Rubi, an X5 with I-drive, a F350 with SYNC touch screen, etc. I personally do not want anymore of this stuff and ordered a 10A with the 130 to get back to basics. All the features mentioned by other posters are great if that's your thing, but I miss my old vehicles that were basic...

I know the 730N and 430N are somewhat different, but reasons are the same for me. My i-phone is where I store pics, videos, use google, etc. I have wasted time trying to figure all this stuff out and yet, I have never been lost or needed nav in my life. My 2 cents...not trying to bag on other people's Nav units. I'd probably be more open to it if I actually knew how to use all of the features...good luck in your decision!
03-25-2013 08:21 PM
black betty2012 I've heard the 430n will plug n play to 130 as long as it has Bluetooth, Sirius and connectivity group? Anyone know?
03-25-2013 08:14 PM
krawdaddy I wasn't planning on getting one (theft worries) but liked the Jeep icon used on the nav screen. Yeah, I bought it for the Jeep icon......

Overall, I'm happy with it. Nav works great and is up to date.
03-25-2013 08:06 PM
IowaBeef My two cents: I ordered mine without any stereo options because they seemed to be too expensive compared to what you can do with aftermarket. I went with a JVC HU with dvd for $330. Maybe not the top of the line unit out there, but I'm really liking it. Now I can listen to/watch movies and charge my ipod, stream music from my android phone, or even watch a dvd while driving. I spent just over a grand for the HU, ipod video/charging cord, module to retain steering wheel controls, RCA's, 500 watt amp, and install. Had an old sub laying around, so saved money there, and added 77kick10's separately. It sounds great to me, glad I didn't spend any more on factory stereo.

Also, not sure if anyone else has seen this, but the 1/8 aux jack on the 130 sounded terrible. The stereo shop said they had heard that complaint before.
03-25-2013 07:39 PM
Burger16b
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Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
I passed on the 430N and put in a 430rbz instead.
That's what I'm gonna do. Didn't find the price of the rhb 430n to be worth the price. Looking for a good price on a rbz now :0)
03-25-2013 06:49 PM
relyt
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Originally Posted by dmako View Post

What is a 430rbz?
The RBZ is the non-navigation version of the RHB. it isn't offered from the factory on the wranglers, but come as optional equipment on a lot of Chrysler vehicles. You can pick up good working used examples for about $300-350 all day long on eBay.
03-25-2013 05:19 PM
dmako
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Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
I passed on the 430N and put in a 430rbz instead.
What is a 430rbz?
03-25-2013 04:41 PM
offroadjeep_yj http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AL11GooK4


^^ above is a YouTube link for anyone who is interested in what the mygig lockpick can do for your 430N head unit. It's actually really impressive.
03-25-2013 01:16 PM
panthermark
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Originally Posted by spartanlaw View Post
Any takers?
No one can really answer if it is worth it to you or not.

If you are getting a base system and you know you are going to tear everything out, and you don't want the EVIC or whatever else comes with that package...you can save your cash and apply it to the new HU with BT.

If you are not sure what you will do 6 months down the line...get it. Better to have it and not use/need it, than to not have it.

I'm not sure if the factory mic in the Connectivity package and be used with an aftermarket HU or not.

The stock Alpine speakers do not have real tweeters and are 2 ohms...you are better off replacing those with real amp and 4 ohm speakers....and if you are doing that, you should replace the HU as well....which is why so many recommend tearing the whole thing out if you want a real upgrade.
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