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03-26-2013 12:09 PM
RevCo666
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
You need to be more specific; that's like asking when the best time to use your headlights is.

Are you talking about self recovery? Recovering someone else? etc...

That, and maybe start a new thread so that you will be helped better.
Sorry, I may do that in a new thread then.
03-26-2013 10:16 AM
Patrick H Just a guess...Did they ever supply plastic plugs for the recessed bolt holes in the hawse?
03-26-2013 10:11 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePants View Post
Here are the black caps. One has PMC 5 and the other has PMC 6 printed on the inside.

If y'all can't figure it out, hopefully Warn comes back to the thread, or I will shoot them an email.

These are the best pics I could get.
I sure don't remember them being included with either of my Warn winches.
03-26-2013 09:03 AM
geiman
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Originally Posted by RevCo666 View Post
On the topic of winches, what is the best or proper way to use it in conjunction to a jeep? I'm still on the fence for getting one but I would appreciate the info.
You need to be more specific; that's like asking when the best time to use your headlights is.

Are you talking about self recovery? Recovering someone else? etc...

That, and maybe start a new thread so that you will be helped better.
03-25-2013 09:05 PM
InvisiblePants
Re: Warn winch

Here are the black caps. One has PMC 5 and the other has PMC 6 printed on the inside.

Attachment 227496
Attachment 227497
Attachment 227498

If y'all can't figure it out, hopefully Warn comes back to the thread, or I will shoot them an email.

These are the best pics I could get.
03-25-2013 08:03 PM
InvisiblePants
Re: Warn winch

Jerry, I'll post them when I get home tonight.
03-25-2013 07:42 PM
RevCo666 On the topic of winches, what is the best or proper way to use it in conjunction to a jeep? I'm still on the fence for getting one but I would appreciate the info.
03-25-2013 07:01 PM
Jerry Bransford I don't recall two black caps on either of my Warn winches, can you post a good sharp photo of them here?
03-25-2013 06:36 PM
InvisiblePants
Re: Warn winch

Not to hijack the thread, but since we are talking warn, does anyone know what the 2 black caps are that came with the M8000. I think the parts kit is generic and not used but want to be sure. Just got mine in this weekend and am going to have it on my jeep tonight. It will look great on the new warn bumper.
03-25-2013 02:33 PM
dcarey I have used it twice pulling cars out of ditches worked great they paid me too said it would have cost so much more for tow truck
03-22-2013 02:04 PM
scot68
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Originally Posted by dcarey View Post
Just got my first Warn winch got the Zeon 10k for $850 and sold my old Ramsey winch for $300 . Loving the look of the WARN
Nice... Have you had a chance to use it yet? I hope to order the 10-S by the end of next month.
03-22-2013 01:41 PM
Warn Industries
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Andy, I know we've discussed this before... that 1.5X GVWR rating is the age-old guideline which is fine for all types of combined winch uses including simple road use like if a vehicle is stuck in snow. But for offroad use where we tend to get into more difficult winching situations, 2X GVWR has proven to be more appropriate for an offroader.
Jerry,

Nothing wrong with going double GVWR, Jerry. However, 1.5 x GVWR is still what we recommend as a minimum, and have been for many years. It's perfectly adequate for the vast majority of winch users.

- Andy
03-15-2013 08:25 PM
Jerry Bransford Andy, I know we've discussed this before... that 1.5X GVWR rating is the age-old guideline which is fine for all types of combined winch uses including simple road use like if a vehicle is stuck in snow. But for offroad use where we tend to get into more difficult winching situations, 2X GVWR has proven to be more appropriate for an offroader.
03-15-2013 06:24 PM
Warn Industries Just FYI, since we're talking winch capacity, the formula we use here to determine minimum winching capacity for a truck/SUV is this:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating x 1.5 = Minimum Pulling Capacity

To the OP, I hope the winch is serving you well. I've got a VR8000-S on my personal vehicle.

- Andy
03-15-2013 01:07 PM
dcarey Just got my first Warn winch got the Zeon 10k for $850 and sold my old Ramsey winch for $300 . Loving the look of the WARN
03-15-2013 02:45 AM
InvisiblePants
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Originally Posted by Gstone View Post
Killer deAl
Yeah that is what i thought too. Had him down to $400. Before we could meet up, he got into an accident and had to keep the bumper.

edit: WOOHOO, 100th post!
03-15-2013 02:37 AM
Gstone Killer deAl
03-15-2013 02:05 AM
RevCo666
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePants View Post
I know the feeling. I have been saving up for a while and should be picking up a winch in the next 2 weeks. Im still debating if i want to buy a mount for the stock bumper or buy a bumper i can mount it too. I mean, if i am going to be dropping cash anyway, i might as well put the mount money towards the new bumper. I'm bummed, i found a guy on CL that had a mopar rock crawler and warn m8000 for 550. i talked him down alittle, but the sale fell thru.
Bitchin' gotta hate when that happens...
03-15-2013 02:04 AM
InvisiblePants
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Originally Posted by RevCo666 View Post
I keep a chain in the back for that reason, maybe I'm just winch envious hehe
I know the feeling. I have been saving up for a while and should be picking up a winch in the next 2 weeks. Im still debating if i want to buy a mount for the stock bumper or buy a bumper i can mount it too. I mean, if i am going to be dropping cash anyway, i might as well put the mount money towards the new bumper. I'm bummed, i found a guy on CL that had a mopar rock crawler and warn m8000 for 550. i talked him down alittle, but the sale fell thru.
03-15-2013 01:46 AM
RevCo666
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePants View Post
if that's the case, you could probably get away with it, but why not just use a tow strap if all you are doing is pulling? I just dragged an old lawnmower across the yard with a tow strap. A winch would have worked but hooking a strap to my hitch and putting the jeep in drive was so much quicker.
I keep a chain in the back for that reason, maybe I'm just winch envious hehe
03-15-2013 01:41 AM
InvisiblePants
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Originally Posted by RevCo666 View Post
Something in the 2-3K but not for towing myself or other vehicles, more like a work horse pulling dead weight like wooden debri, or an ice hut thats stuck...
if that's the case, you could probably get away with it, but why not just use a tow strap if all you are doing is pulling? I just dragged an old lawnmower across the yard with a tow strap. A winch would have worked but hooking a strap to my hitch and putting the jeep in drive was so much quicker.
03-15-2013 01:31 AM
RevCo666
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePants View Post
what weight are you thinking? I personally would not want to risk buying a lower rated winch than 8000 for fear of damage to person or property if it fails bc i underestimated the force that it takes to pull something out. We have a lot of clay around and it creates a lot of suction when it eats a vehicle. A member of our club got stuck recently and the guy pulling her out had a 9500 lb winch. at first it tried to pull him to her, next they tied his jeep to another jeep, they both started getting pulled in. finally they anchored him to a tree and before she popped free his tires were almost lifting from the force.



and if you are looking into purchasing a winch Warn is offering rebates again.
Something in the 2-3K but not for towing myself or other vehicles, more like a work horse pulling dead weight like wooden debri, or an ice hut thats stuck...
03-15-2013 01:26 AM
InvisiblePants
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Originally Posted by RevCo666 View Post
I know this is an older thread but I dont do much off roading BUT is there any benefits to picking up a winch that has a lower max weight pull? Something budget to pull smaller items using the jeep as an anchor? Or am I just going in the wrong direction here? Any insight is appreciated...
what weight are you thinking? I personally would not want to risk buying a lower rated winch than 8000 for fear of damage to person or property if it fails bc i underestimated the force that it takes to pull something out. We have a lot of clay around and it creates a lot of suction when it eats a vehicle. A member of our club got stuck recently and the guy pulling her out had a 9500 lb winch. at first it tried to pull him to her, next they tied his jeep to another jeep, they both started getting pulled in. finally they anchored him to a tree and before she popped free his tires were almost lifting from the force.



and if you are looking into purchasing a winch Warn is offering rebates again.
03-15-2013 01:10 AM
RevCo666 I know this is an older thread but I dont do much off roading BUT is there any benefits to picking up a winch that has a lower max weight pull? Something budget to pull smaller items using the jeep as an anchor? Or am I just going in the wrong direction here? Any insight is appreciated...
11-29-2012 03:56 PM
hmiller
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Originally Posted by Plowboy1970 View Post
Nice pickup!!! I called on a used Warn XD9000i that was on craigslist for $600 Said I would love to have it but I don't that amount of cash. He asked how much I have? I said $400 He said he would take it. Kinda nice that his girl friend was pregnant...LOL!!
thats a good deal too man.. good pickup
11-29-2012 03:53 PM
Plowboy1970 Nice pickup!!! I called on a used Warn XD9000i that was on craigslist for $600 Said I would love to have it but I don't that amount of cash. He asked how much I have? I said $400 He said he would take it. Kinda nice that his girl friend was pregnant...LOL!!
11-29-2012 01:03 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
If you ever get out to a pro-level competition on the rocks, you'll quickly notice they're all running synthetics. And as much as I am involved in the stuff, I personally don't hear or read of a lot more synthetic rope failures.

And the following is my personal experience on wire vs. synthetic rope. In my first five years of winching, I replaced my wire rope twice due to kinking and broken wire strands. That type of damage occurs when the rope gets pulled down through the layers if you can't properly rewind the rope between pulls... which happens when you have to winch yourself or someone else multiple times during the day and you can't properly rewind the wire rope under a load between pulls.

On the other hand, the synthetic rope I finally replaced my 3rd wire rope with was still in fine condition five years later when that Jeep was stolen. Three wire ropes in the first five years vs. one synthetic rope the second five years. Which rope is the more durable when you look at it from my experience?
Pro's don't run steel because of the safety factor and you know that, so don't try to put it off like they are more reliable just because the Pro's use it. Three are hundreds of people standing 10ft away from a winching Ultra 4 car, I would hope they are using synthetic!

That's fine and dandy that synthetic doesn't have broken strands,as I have dealt with a wire rope with broken strands, but I have seen more than my fair share of frayed synthetic lines.

There is no arguing that for someone who winches every now and then, doesn't really pay attention to where the line is that a steel line that came on the winch works just fine until he wears it out. Why would he pay $3-400 for a Viking line when his steel cable is brand new? I do plan on upgrading to synthetic on my winch as the benefits are obvious, but I'm just going to wait until it needs it, If it aint broke don't fix it.
11-29-2012 12:57 PM
AJ_IOOF Well I don't want to "kill a busload of puppies" LOL. Thanks for the input. I think I'll follow your lead on this one...

@hmiller- No, unfortunately I have not mounted it yet. Busted index finger on my right hand has made me put off a couple of projects so far and it looks like I'm going to have to take the Rock Proof bumper off to get the winch on (not enough room for my hands to get to the front bolts). The winch gets decent reviews though and it is after all a "Warn".
11-29-2012 12:52 PM
frieed Plus you can get a replacement steel rope for cheap since so many people are shelling out the $$$$ for synthetics...
11-29-2012 12:51 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Synthetic is easier to handle and if it breaks it won't snap back and kill a busload of puppies.

That being said, It does break a helluva lot easier than steel by dragging it over stuff. This can be avoided by putting a rock sleeve over it, but steel still wins there because your screwed if you have to drag it on the ground over multiple points. I hear of a lot more synthetic failures then steel failures. Synthetic sucks because you have to wash all the dirt out too.

I'm going to wait until my steel line is all kinked up before I bother buying synthetic. It really doesn't make a huge difference, especially for those who just use it every once in a while.
If you ever get out to a pro-level competition on the rocks, you'll quickly notice they're all running synthetics. And as much as I am involved in the stuff, I personally don't hear or read of a lot more synthetic rope failures.

And the following is my personal experience on wire vs. synthetic rope. In my first five years of winching, I replaced my wire rope twice due to kinking and broken wire strands. That type of damage occurs when the rope gets pulled down through the layers if you can't properly rewind the rope between pulls... which happens when you have to winch yourself or someone else multiple times during the day and you can't properly rewind the wire rope under a load between pulls.

On the other hand, the synthetic rope I finally replaced my 3rd wire rope with was still in fine condition five years later when that Jeep was stolen. Three wire ropes in the first five years vs. one synthetic rope the second five years. Which rope is the more durable when you look at it from my experience?
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