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01-04-2014 07:46 AM
chriskelly Rampage recovery.......
01-04-2014 06:41 AM
GoldenEagle Does it bother anyone that with the swing out tire carries you have to open two things to get in the trunk?? and do they ever hit each other when open.

I know my trunk door sometimes swings back if im on level, just wondering if they run into eachother?

I know best top doesnt have either one of those problems
03-28-2013 01:04 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by 1ofakind View Post
the orfab mounts to the tub??
No more than a winch is bolted to the bumper. Read post #6 above.
03-28-2013 12:27 AM
1ofakind the orfab mounts to the tub??
03-27-2013 02:23 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Landon II View Post
I cant find one on the website that says it will fit an 06. They have them for the JK and for 86 to 05. Kind of weird.
Their website for the TJ just is out of date. It will fit any TJ through 2006.
03-27-2013 02:21 PM
Landon II
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
One more cool thing about ORF's spare tire (& optionally jerry can) holder is you can run any bumper and/or receiver hitch you want since it doesn't need or attach to the bumper.

I cant find one on the website that says it will fit an 06. They have them for the JK and for 86 to 05. Kind of weird.
03-27-2013 02:08 PM
Jerry Bransford One more cool thing about ORF's spare tire (& optionally jerry can) holder is you can run any bumper and/or receiver hitch you want since it doesn't need or attach to the bumper.
03-27-2013 02:01 PM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Tanks View Post
Ouch. Glad no worse came of it to yah!
This is when overbuilt has its advantages.
03-27-2013 01:57 PM
Tanks
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Originally Posted by TheDesertOutlaw View Post

A drunken driver nudged me from behind at a stoplight before driving off. There was no damage to the hitch portion of my bumper, but I imagine the front of his Camero had a nice dimple added to it!
Ouch. Glad no worse came of it to yah!
03-27-2013 01:57 PM
Landon II I didn't see anyone mention this one. 4x4ROCKSHOP.com

It looks similar to the JCR. My goal is to add a drop down tail gate and get rid of my trailer hitch. So I need a swing out spare and a intergraded hitch that I can use to tow my light trailer with. It would be cool if the swing out carrier would lock in the open position too.
03-27-2013 01:51 PM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Tanks View Post
The other thing that drew me to the Garvin system was the hitch is a rated class II or III hitch. Can't remember off hand. Either way I've landed that thing hard on some rock and it's barely scratched.
A drunken driver nudged me from behind at a stoplight before driving off. There was no damage to the hitch portion of my bumper, but I imagine the front of his Camero had a nice dimple added to it!
03-27-2013 01:48 PM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Jwolfer View Post
I have that concern as well. I am leaning more towards the ORFAB carrier.
That is a very well-designed carrier.
03-27-2013 01:42 PM
Dare hhhhmmmm looks like several choices but also leaning to the ORFAB
03-27-2013 12:50 PM
Tanks
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Originally Posted by Jwolfer View Post
I really like the looks of the Garvin rack but my concern is that the Jeep is my DD and I don't really need/want the rack and jerry cans with me at all times.
So, the system is pretty flexible. You do have to but the rack and each side can holder separately which is kinda lame but I get it. It also has axe and shovel mounts you can get that mount the across the inside of the spare. I totally get the high can comment. They are just above tub height on mine. The rack could be take on or off in about 10 min. I would say.

The other thing that drew me to the Garvin system was the hitch is a rated class II or III hitch. Can't remember off hand. Either way I've landed that thing hard on some rock and it's barely scratched. It also comes with a number of brackets and plates to help distribute load on your current xmember on the frame and mounts that go right to the frame.
03-27-2013 12:29 PM
Jwolfer
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
That the gas cans are mounted so high up wouldn't make me happy at all on an off camber trail. ORF's mounts them behind the spare tire.
I have that concern as well. I am leaning more towards the ORFAB carrier.
03-27-2013 12:13 PM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
That the gas cans are mounted so high up wouldn't make me happy at all on an off camber trail.
Trails do get interesting when carrying a load of weight up that high. When the going gets tippy, I strap the Coleman ice chest inside of the Jeep, and empty the gas cans into my tank before attempting something unusually off-camber.
03-27-2013 12:10 PM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Jwolfer View Post
I really like the looks of the Garvin rack but my concern is that the Jeep is my DD and I don't really need/want the rack and jerry cans with me at all times.
I keep the gerry cans in the garage until needed. They're the type that you can't buy anymore.
03-27-2013 12:08 PM
Jerry Bransford That the gas cans are mounted so high up wouldn't make me happy at all on an off camber trail. ORF's mounts them behind the spare tire.
03-27-2013 12:05 PM
Jwolfer I really like the looks of the Garvin rack but my concern is that the Jeep is my DD and I don't really need/want the rack and jerry cans with me at all times.
03-27-2013 11:30 AM
TheDesertOutlaw I like my Garvin Tire Carrier system for everything I can carry outside of the Jeep for my extended Baja trips. With the rear mounts reinforced, it has no problems carrying the additional load on the trail, or just to the beach in Baja.


03-27-2013 11:25 AM
TJgunner I want to mount my spare in the back between my ammo cans. Anyone have photos of this? I run 31's and dont plan on going bigger so it fits fine. I got the old ladies car to haul groceries LOL the jeep is the toy
03-27-2013 11:20 AM
MTJeepTJ
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I'm no fan of combo bumper/tire carrier products. Such designs place all of the tire's weight on just one pivot point and there is a lot of leverage against it. The second point the swing-away attaches to is really just a point to latch it closed to and provides no real structural strength. Not to mention they require you to use their bumper.

The type of spare tire carrier design I really like doesn't use the bumper at all. A bumper isn't even needed. Instead, the 3-point spare tire carrier I prefer bolts to hidden brackets behind the tub that are bolted to the rear rollbar mounts. You don't get a stronger place to support a spare tire from than the rear rollbar mounts. It has three structural attach points, two when it is open.

One such manufacturer is Offroad-Fabricators in Arizona. I have installed their design onto both of my TJs. The first one was on my previous TJ that was stolen and it had ten years and 120K miles on it carrying two full jerry cans and a heavy 35x12.50 MT/R spare the last time I saw it. Until the day that TJ was stolen, the ORF carrier never rattled or sagged. It swung straight into its driver's side latch without needing to lift it even 1/32"... completely sag free after all that time because of its beefy design that uses the rollbar mounts for strength.

OR-Fab | Off-Road Fabricators | HOME

They aren't cheap but they hold up long-term to even two full jerry cans and large heavy spare tires.
This is good to know Jerry from somebody that has some experience with the OR-Fab carrier cause i have been debating one for my TJ. Years ago i had this swing out carrier from a company in Santa Barbara CA called bullet proof mfg on a YJ. It was cool sorta but REALLY heavy, sagged the crap out of my YJ rear springs. And it would try and kill you if you opened it off camber with any weight its rack. Plus the mounting points you brought up are true. I like the idea of it being secure up on the tub.
03-27-2013 11:12 AM
Jwolfer Also, I've noticed most bumper hitches aren't rated for towing. Does anyone make one that is rated for towing?
03-27-2013 11:01 AM
Jwolfer Anyone have thoughts or input on this one?

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03-27-2013 09:19 AM
rjdriver Right now I have the Bestop bumper and tire carrier on my TJ love the design and actually have had no problems with it but getting it to me was a nightmare to say the least it took 3 times(over 2 months time frame) before I finally got one that wasn't damaged badly enough that I would accept it. Now I fault UPS for most of it but the packaging was pure garbage, Finally on the 3rd one they had bounce checked it on the end and it was missing powder coat and bent a brackett but I straightened it out and painted the bare spot to match the rest of the powder coat .... that the hell of it you pay almost $800.00 and still have to fix it when you get it.... but on another note, I used a Jeeperman on the front because I needed a 2" receiver for pushing aircraft around..... now this is one class act, really nice bumper and it came packaged in plywood, UPS damage the box but it never touched the bumper call it (sacrificial packaging) being all said and if I had to do it again I like the way the tire swings with the rear gate but I probably would have gone with a Jeeperman in the rear too.
03-27-2013 09:00 AM
Jwolfer I like the JCR but I need a bumper that stores full size jerry cans, not rotopax. I like the looks of the Garvin system. You have to buy the rack with the jerry can mounts separately though correct?
03-27-2013 07:46 AM
cudruln
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Originally Posted by Tanks View Post
I've been super happy with the quality and strength of my Garvin. Take it or leave it but the pivot bolt is something they would use for a bridge. It locks down tight, holds my 2 jerrys and high lift, and has a trail rack easily mountable if you want. And it braces against the tub so the load is distributed out.
I love my Garvin. Great bumper and can take a beating offroad.
03-27-2013 03:01 AM
Tanks I've been super happy with the quality and strength of my Garvin. Take it or leave it but the pivot bolt is something they would use for a bridge. It locks down tight, holds my 2 jerrys and high lift, and has a trail rack easily mountable if you want. And it braces against the tub so the load is distributed out.


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03-27-2013 02:40 AM
Lord Humongous For me, the JCR is the best design out there, the Rotopax tanks carry less but also weigh less and take up less room allowing the tire to be a lot closer to the body...

I just wish it wasn't so dang expensive!



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03-27-2013 01:26 AM
Jwolfer Bumping an old thread because I am finally ready to buy a new bumper. Any more suggestions?
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