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04-07-2013 07:30 PM
Iwanna
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
You mean the sway bar links?
Yes
04-04-2013 10:37 PM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by kpla51 View Post
k so i finally had a buddy turn the wheel and noticed the lower bolt on the track bar was moving and making a pop previously when i grabbed it that thing was super tight but I'm sure the whole is wallowed out any good advice on how to fix this?
Just torque it back down and see what happens.
04-04-2013 07:19 PM
Patrick H Looks like you may have found your issue, but I thought I'd share an issue I had. I'm using Blaine's Johnny Joint washers, and my lower brackets were deformed just enough that the JJ was actually clamped between the JJ washers, but the washers weren't clamping the control arm brackets tight, so the JJ washers were actually sliding back and forth in the bracket slightly, mostly when applying the brakes in reverse, but it started doing it when driving through pot holes and such. Took me a while to find out what was going on. The fix was to weld the JJ washers to the control arm bracket. Just thought I'd throw this out there in case you might have the same thing going on.


04-04-2013 06:42 PM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
Either welding an entire new piece on the mount or using some weld washers should help out.

How bad is the hole wallowed out? Pictures? If you get enough clamping force on the bolt it shouldn't be popping regardless.
haven't been able to take it out yet just found the problem about an hour ago and its been raining here
04-04-2013 06:38 PM
geiman Either welding an entire new piece on the mount or using some weld washers should help out.

How bad is the hole wallowed out? Pictures? If you get enough clamping force on the bolt it shouldn't be popping regardless.
04-04-2013 06:34 PM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
Use a trac bar that uses a bushing with a larger bolt at the axle (for example, Currie's TJJ adjustable trac bar).

Or perhaps some weld washers/weld on a fresh piece of metal and re-drill.
have that trac bar what if the hole is wallowed out too big use the washer method?
04-04-2013 06:23 PM
geiman Use a trac bar that uses a bushing with a larger bolt at the axle (for example, Currie's TJJ adjustable trac bar).

Or perhaps some weld washers/weld on a fresh piece of metal and re-drill.
04-04-2013 06:22 PM
kpla51 k so i finally had a buddy turn the wheel and noticed the lower bolt on the track bar was moving and making a pop previously when i grabbed it that thing was super tight but I'm sure the whole is wallowed out any good advice on how to fix this?
04-04-2013 06:07 PM
geiman Was this ever done:

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Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes View Post
If it is popping when you turn the wheels, have your buddy do the steering for you again and this time, touch each joint to see if you can feel the pop. TRE's on the steering, each end of the trackbar, each bolt on the uppers.

I suspect you will find a TRE that is popping up and down on the tapered pin or the lower trackbar bolt is loose and popping back and forth in the mount.
If so, what was the result?

Have you dropped the control arms on the passenger side and looked at the joints for any abnormalities? I would think if the joints were in normal condition they shouldn't be able to make any "popping" noises.
04-04-2013 05:46 PM
streetbob84 Nope been doing it since I installed it.
04-04-2013 03:30 PM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by streetbob84
I am having the same issue. Same setup.
Has anything happened to you that would cause yours or is it just popping
04-04-2013 02:59 PM
streetbob84 I am having the same issue. Same setup.
04-04-2013 08:51 AM
kpla51 Savvy the whole suspension is there 4 inch lift
04-04-2013 07:09 AM
Patrick H What do you have for lower control arms?
04-04-2013 05:19 AM
kpla51 I looked at the tres and they don't seem to be the cause but further driving I noticed if I hit a bump in the road going straight it pops seems to be coming from the passenger side. So not only when turning side to side but when I hit rough roads going straight
04-01-2013 11:30 AM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes

If it is popping when you turn the wheels, have your buddy do the steering for you again and this time, touch each joint to see if you can feel the pop. TRE's on the steering, each end of the trackbar, each bolt on the uppers.

I suspect you will find a TRE that is popping up and down on the tapered pin or the lower trackbar bolt is loose and popping back and forth in the mount.
I will check this after work
04-01-2013 11:02 AM
kpla51 What about a new steering stabalizer? Mine is the stock one
04-01-2013 08:56 AM
Imped
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Originally Posted by Iwanna View Post
Check your sway bar disconnects. When I put on my upper and lower CAs I got a pop and found that is was my disconnects. Hope this helps
You mean the sway bar links?
04-01-2013 08:54 AM
Iwanna Check your sway bar disconnects. When I put on my upper and lower CAs I got a pop and found that is was my disconnects. Hope this helps
04-01-2013 08:34 AM
Patrick H
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Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes View Post
I do not measure ANY upper control arm lengths to install them. I use one side to set everything, release the tension on the bolts until you can spin them with your fingers and then float the remaining upper to the length it needs to get the last bolt in.

This is done with the rig at ride height and level side to side. That is the only way to ensure they are not in a bind and both arms are seeing identical loads.

That's where I was headed when I asked the OP if the axle had been measured and adjusted to be square under the Jeep. Square the axle with the lowers, set pinion angle/ caster, then adjust the uppers to fit. I assume you mean to release the tension on the first upper control arm bolt by placing a jack under the diff.?
04-01-2013 08:30 AM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by kpla51 View Post
it would only pop once in a great while but since the control arm issue its gotten worse and happens every time i turn the wheel slightly. for example theres a windy road to my place but the curves are not extreme but whenever the body leans it makes the pop feel too and then when stationary if i turn the wheel the pop happens.
If it is popping when you turn the wheels, have your buddy do the steering for you again and this time, touch each joint to see if you can feel the pop. TRE's on the steering, each end of the trackbar, each bolt on the uppers.

I suspect you will find a TRE that is popping up and down on the tapered pin or the lower trackbar bolt is loose and popping back and forth in the mount.
04-01-2013 08:27 AM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
You say you turned it 2 full turns longer in order to reinstall it? You might want to PM Blaine for some info. Something could be in a bind if you did not lengthen both the same amount. I am assuming it was aligned after the install.
I do not measure ANY upper control arm lengths to install them. I use one side to set everything, release the tension on the bolts until you can spin them with your fingers and then float the remaining upper to the length it needs to get the last bolt in.

This is done with the rig at ride height and level side to side. That is the only way to ensure they are not in a bind and both arms are seeing identical loads.
04-01-2013 08:17 AM
Imped If the grease doesn't flow through and out the joint between the bushing halves and center ball, then don't grease it. All you're doing is adding to the pressure the C clip has to retain.
04-01-2013 08:10 AM
kpla51 sorry this is hard to describe forgive me haha. could one of the joints cause a pop? they have only been greased once on install i believe jerry bransford said you don't need to grease them very often. could this be a possibility
04-01-2013 08:08 AM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by Patrick H View Post
So, the problem actually did exist before the control arm bolt fell out...
it would only pop once in a great while but since the control arm issue its gotten worse and happens every time i turn the wheel slightly. for example theres a windy road to my place but the curves are not extreme but whenever the body leans it makes the pop feel too and then when stationary if i turn the wheel the pop happens.
04-01-2013 06:51 AM
Patrick H So, the problem actually did exist before the control arm bolt fell out...
04-01-2013 05:19 AM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by Patrick H
Bolt to bolt is fine. 1/4" isn't huge considering how much give the Clevite bushings have. Do you have adjustable lowers? If so, are they the same length? Was the front axle measured for square under the Jeep?
Ill have to check the lowers before the controll arm fell out it would only pop when turning the wheel fully to one side or the other but since it fell out and I put it back In it happens even when the wheel is turned half way
03-31-2013 10:35 PM
Patrick H Bolt to bolt is fine. 1/4" isn't huge considering how much give the Clevite bushings have. Do you have adjustable lowers? If so, are they the same length? Was the front axle measured for square under the Jeep?
03-31-2013 10:31 PM
kpla51
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Originally Posted by Patrick H
Have you measured the upper control arm lengths?
Yes the one I made longer is about 1/4 of an inch longer I just measured from bolt to bolt is there a specific place to measure?
03-31-2013 10:25 PM
Patrick H Have you measured the upper control arm lengths?
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