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05-02-2014 01:10 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I found mine for $120 with free shipping on eBay from a company called Herko in Florida but they don't have all the models used by the TJ. I'd sure check there first, Herko really came through for me by getting it to me faster than normal after I sent them a note that it was needed for an upcoming offroad trip I was leading. It even made it a day ahead of when they promised it by.

Good luck on them having the model needed for your model year, I sure hope they do. Rockauto would be my choice if Herko doesn't have the right model pump.
Thanks Jerry, I checked they don't have my 97 model. Looks like rockauto. I just hope the Bosch pump solves my problem permanently I'm tired of dealing with it. I'm a pro at dropping the fuel tank though that's for sure.
05-02-2014 12:47 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by 97sport09 View Post
Rockauto has it for $170 I'm guessing that's the cheapest around? Sounds pretty good to me.
I found mine for $120 with free shipping on eBay from a company called Herko in Florida but they don't have all the models used by the TJ. I'd sure check there first, Herko really came through for me by getting it to me faster than normal after I sent them a note that it was needed for an upcoming offroad trip I was leading. It even made it a day ahead of when they promised it by.

Good luck on them having the model needed for your model year, I sure hope they do. Rockauto would be my choice if Herko doesn't have the right model pump.
05-02-2014 12:38 PM
gmiller0737 Another vote for Bosch I got mine @ Carquest
05-02-2014 12:36 PM
97sport09 Rockauto has it for $170 I'm guessing that's the cheapest around? Sounds pretty good to me.
05-02-2014 12:14 PM
97sport09 Jerry, where is the best place price wise you have found to purchase the Bosch fuel pump assembly?
05-02-2014 12:03 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
My Spectra fuel pump didn't last all that long, I just replaced it with a Bosch last month. I'll never buy another Spectra again, and Airtex is just as bad. Bosch is one of the OE manufacturers, that's the one I would go with.

By the way, my Spectra failed doing just what yours is doing... misfires after starting and LONG starts, I was up to having to cycle it on-off-on 12-15 times at the end before it would start. The problem is with the fuel pump, not the fuel pressure regulator, replace it.
Well damn, thanks for the info. Its pretty sad that I put a brand new pump in and it starts to fail 6 months later, just a poor product...
05-02-2014 11:53 AM
Jerry Bransford My Spectra fuel pump didn't last all that long, I just replaced it with a Bosch last month. I'll never buy another Spectra again, and Airtex is just as bad. Bosch is one of the OE manufacturers, that's the one I would go with.

By the way, my Spectra failed doing just what yours is doing... misfires after starting and LONG starts, I was up to having to cycle it on-off-on 12-15 times at the end before it would start. The problem is with the fuel pump, not the fuel pressure regulator, replace it.
05-02-2014 11:40 AM
97sport09 Well my Jeep is at its old ways again...Just started the long cranking again randomly. Surely the fuel pressure regulator couldn't have gone out again? Hasn't even been on there for a year yet, so frustrating!
10-13-2013 07:39 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by mdavidc View Post
What kind of fuel pump did you install?
Spectra Premium amazon $155
10-13-2013 07:34 PM
mdavidc What kind of fuel pump did you install?
10-12-2013 02:07 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by JRIEDY85 View Post
Let me know how it goes! If it works for you I'll prob end up doing mine.
Great news everyone! Replaced whole fuel pump module, and problem solved pretty damn happy today! Started at 8 am this morning got done at noon, also did oil and filter change while I was at it. My Jeep and I couldn't be happier!
10-11-2013 09:10 AM
rlasky
Misfire on startup

I wrote earlier on a constant P1391, and I believe P0463 codes popping. Though the codes are different, man this all seems related. As per my earlier post, and nothing has changed in performance, I have changed everything noted on this thread, even the cam sensor (actually the whole distributor, it was cheaper) except the stuff in the fuel tank, which, P0463, if that is the right code based on memory, as it is very sporadic where 1391 is daily, starts to put my issue in prospective. Regarding the starting issue, which now I am even more on board with the prospect of 1391 and 0463 are related, I too need to turn the key to ignition, hear the pump run and stop prior to engaging the starter. If I do not, about 4-7 turn overs happen compared to two.
10-10-2013 10:07 AM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by CTX-Ross View Post
Damn I was hoping to not have to drop the tank. But yea I might as well just replace the whole setup
Dropping the tank really isn't that hard to do I have done it once before when I converted my 15 gal tank to a 19. Just make sure to try to have your tank on E and have a two jacks on each side to lower down the tank one you get all your bolts off.
10-10-2013 09:51 AM
CTX-Ross Damn I was hoping to not have to drop the tank. But yea I might as well just replace the whole setup
10-10-2013 09:04 AM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by CTX-Ross View Post

Hey how much was the regulator and how long did it take you to get it swapped out. I need to replace mine
The regulators I saw alone were 80+dollars so you might as well just replace whole fuel pump since you will already have the tank dropped to get to the regulator anyway. Especially if its the original on your jeep. The regulator just sits on the very top of the fuel pump module so if you order a new pump it will come with it already.
10-10-2013 08:54 AM
CTX-Ross
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Originally Posted by 97sport09 View Post
Will do! Ordering parts now, hopefully start on it this Monday.
Hey how much was the regulator and how long did it take you to get it swapped out. I need to replace mine
10-10-2013 08:23 AM
JimsJeep I replaced the entire module because there was also fuel gage issues but you can just replace parts also. The entire module cost me $153 plus shipping. Amazon and Rock Auto had decent pricing.
10-10-2013 08:22 AM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by JRIEDY85 View Post

How much does that cost? Just so I have an idea. I need to do this.
I just ordered a spectra premium whole fuel pump module off of amazon for 155 shipped to my house. I went with this brand because they are made here in Indiana where I'm from and have good reviews. I wasn't about to order a mopar unit for 300 + which is actually a Bosch unit. I'm not a fan of them.
10-10-2013 08:10 AM
JRIEDY85
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Originally Posted by JimsJeep View Post
I swapped out my entire fuel module last week and that solved the fuel drainback problem. Now it starts instantly.
How much does that cost? Just so I have an idea. I need to do this.
10-09-2013 05:48 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by JimsJeep View Post
I swapped out my entire fuel module last week and that solved the fuel drainback problem. Now it starts instantly.
Awesome! Thanks buddy!
10-09-2013 05:42 PM
JimsJeep I swapped out my entire fuel module last week and that solved the fuel drainback problem. Now it starts instantly.
10-09-2013 05:35 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by JRIEDY85 View Post
Let me know how it goes! If it works for you I'll prob end up doing mine.
Will do! Ordering parts now, hopefully start on it this Monday.
10-09-2013 12:59 PM
JRIEDY85 Let me know how it goes! If it works for you I'll prob end up doing mine.
10-09-2013 09:05 AM
97sport09 I found this link and I believe that it is the fuel pressure regulator, I'm going to go ahead and replace that as well as the fuel pump... http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/repl...tor-79784.html
10-08-2013 10:33 PM
JRIEDY85 I have the same problem. I've heard that it could be the fuel pressure regulator that stops the fuel in the lines from draining back into the tank, goes bad and then you have no fuel at the engine when you go to start. I'm not positive. But sounds logical. I'm sure someone can confirm this.
10-08-2013 10:01 PM
97sport09 I'm at the point now to start up the engine I have to turn the key 2 or 3 times to prime the injectors prior to start, or else I will have to crank for 5 second or more. Also, by doing this it helps avoid the short misfire I get which causes the cylinder one misfire code. Here's a list of things I'm going to replace next week hopefully to resolve the issue. Coil Rail, Fuel Injectors, Fuel Filter/Pump. Anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks...
05-21-2013 09:55 PM
97sport09 Update: Cylinder one misfire check engine light comes and goes still, here is the second problem now. When starting it will turn over for 5 or more seconds before start. So usually I crank it for a second, turn key off then crank again and starts right up in a split second. If I were to shut it off and start it up again within 30 seconds, no problems but a minute or more takes forever to fire again. Its almost like fuel isn't staying in the injectors or lines after a certain amount of time. Can anyone shed some light on this second problem Im having? I'm hoping that this is why the cylinder one misfire code is being thrown as well from this problem, so I can eliminate both my problems at the same time, appreciate any info, thanks!
04-03-2013 07:25 AM
rlasky
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Originally Posted by 97sport09 View Post
Changed the Crank Position Sensor today, upon replacing startup was very quick compared to usual, and did not miss out. I have reset the PCM, Engine light is gone, will let you know how things go in the next few days, so far so good.
I have a 1391 code popping all the time. I have changed out the crank and cam sensors. No change. Unlike your issue, I am not noticing any negative starting or performance effect. When I changed the clutch, having a leaky rear seal, changing too, ensured the magnets were clean when I put back together. No change. So, now, I am checking wiring as I go. Due to warrantee, I also have changed out my headers three times over the course of the code throwing and also increasing my injectors from 19 to 23 lbs, as I believe part of the code also state misfire due to crank or cam sensor; but since changing those items didn't solve the issue, I am perplexed. No vacuum leaks, ignition components all up graded, new distributor, as the cost was similar for the cam sensor, si I replaced the whole thing to take distributor bearing play out. Good luck with your search...
04-01-2013 10:37 PM
97sport09 Changed the Crank Position Sensor today, upon replacing startup was very quick compared to usual, and did not miss out. I have reset the PCM, Engine light is gone, will let you know how things go in the next few days, so far so good.
04-01-2013 03:28 PM
97sport09
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Originally Posted by Morris4x4Center View Post
The code was a P0301?
yes, throwing code p0301. Just started it up now getting ready to leave work and it didn't miss out at all, only seems to do it at first start up in the morning or when hasn't been ran for 12plus hours. Such an odd jeep! Lol
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