|Yesterday 04:19 PM|
|Flint Eastwood||Resurrecting the thread, I'm doing the first oil change on my 2014 JKUR at 700 miles. And installing a "No Spill" drain plug. I'll take pics and post them when I'm done.|
|05-16-2013 01:42 PM|
|05-16-2013 11:37 AM|
|05-16-2013 08:50 AM|
|05-15-2013 08:17 PM|
|wat3rdog||Easiest and cleanest oil change ever!|
|05-15-2013 08:03 PM|
|craigwieck||So I learned something new last night. I took apart a oil filter housing on a 3.6l and sure enough there is nothing to hold oil on there when the engine is off.|
|05-15-2013 03:19 PM|
It doesn't appear that this engine has any kind of a ADBV, SAD....
|05-15-2013 08:14 AM|
not sure how you would do that without making a mess. Nothing going to hold the oil the filter housing on the 3.6L
|05-14-2013 08:52 PM|
For the same old school reason, I actually poured a little oil into the 3.6 filter housing and it sounded like it just drained right down to the pan... Thing is, I don't remember if I already had the filter in. I'm thinking I did not.
Due to the filter housing location, it doesn't seem like it'd do much good anyhow.
|05-14-2013 07:16 PM|
|craigwieck||I will have to take a look when I do my first oil Change. I have done oil changes on tons of vehicles with cartridge style oil filters and have never seen one that goes dry on every start up. I could be wrong but with the majority of engine wear coming from start up I would find it hard to believe the filter housing drains when shut off.|
|05-14-2013 07:01 PM|
DJL2 - I trust Old Dogger will get us back off track. He is da man.
|05-14-2013 06:59 PM|
Craig, what the heck? We're in the middle of a complete digression here and you're trying to bring things back on topic? Something of a party foul I'd say.
You're denying me to the opportunity to tell the Corvette guy that he ought to be driving a 911 GT2 or GT-R, for one thing. I cannot hound OD about his choice of beer, cellular telephone provider, grammar, etc. either.
|05-14-2013 06:40 PM|
|craigwieck||Engines with a cartridge style oil filter housing have a spring loaded drain valve in the bottom of the housing that holds the oil in the filter housing when the engine is not running. As soon as you remove the oil filter housing cap the filter comes up and the drain opens so the old oil will drain back into the oil pan. The reason manufactures recommend removing the cap first is to let the oil drain out of the filter housing. It has no affect on how the oil drains out of the pan.|
|05-14-2013 06:29 PM|
Let that be a lesson to all of you young wiper snappers out there, stay in school so you don't wind up a Moron and a old Coot like Old Dogger.
Living on the street when it's 105 degrees outside, just isn't any fun. In fact it really BURN'S me in more ways than one. Hum, yes it hurt's.....
As for the popcorn, well as long as I have the Budweiser to go along with it, then I really don't care how it is prepared!
|05-14-2013 06:10 PM|
|05-14-2013 01:28 PM|
Maybe the reason that I get so mixed up on this subject is that these synthetic things just aren't that important to me. At age 79, there are more important things like popcorn and Budweiser. In fact I think it's time for a can' or two, or more..............and of coarse some....
|05-14-2013 07:24 AM|
|SilverSport||SilverSport told me he does not use Pennzoil Platinum.|
|05-14-2013 12:06 AM|
|05-13-2013 11:52 PM|
WHAT THE SAM HELL IS MOBILE I? Hum, maybe it's a new Mobile Cellphone provider. I wonder if they are offering better rates than Verizon. I will have to see if I can save some money on my cell phone bill.
Now let's get back to real oil. If I was to use synthetics, which I am not, it would only be Pennzoil Platinum. SilverSport uses it so it has to be the best!!
Sorry about that, because you missed out on all of that popcorn.............
|05-13-2013 10:49 PM|
|05-13-2013 10:34 PM|
|05-13-2013 10:29 PM|
I can end this debate, my Corvette uses only Mobile 1 and a Mobile 1 filter. It comes from the factory like that. Why? Because all elite car people know that the best racing engines and high performance motors use synthetic. That's what 60+ years of making the fastest American sports car teaches you.
Although I'm not saying regular oil changes with regular oil won't make your engine last a really long time, but I beat the crap out of my motors and it's Mobile 1 only for me. Doing mine at 500 for the record.
|05-13-2013 04:43 PM|
|xzy||As far as does the filter hold oil at shut off, I say no. After installing an oil pressure/temp gauge in my 3.6 it takes at least two seconds before pressure registers. If there were no drain back pressure should register almost instantly.|
|05-13-2013 03:29 PM|
|molson||I changed the oil on flat ground|
|05-13-2013 03:12 PM|
Just looking at your profile pic... Is that where you changed the oil? Looks like you're on a hill and I'm wondering if some oil stayed in the pan.
I'm in a similar situation and have to point my pan drain downhill.
|05-13-2013 03:03 PM|
|molson||I've checked it before and it was always full. I pulled the filter and fill cap as well just in case there was any kind of vacuum holding oil in and let it drain for almost an hour so I doubt it's holding a full quart. I'll check it again before I drive it and probably ask the dealership about it the next time I'm over that way.|
|05-13-2013 02:45 PM|
Did you ever check your oil level, before changing it? If yes, did it show overfull? You may have a dipstick issue???
All that I did was pulled the filter first and removed the oil filler cap. Then I drained the oil, same as you until no more came out. Next installed the drain plug, next the new oil filter carter age and added 6 quarts of oil. I ran it and checked for leaks.
The following morning with engine cold, I checked the level. Mine was just like TOKs, right at the top of the hash marks. I don't normally check my oil level after changing it, but since there has been some controversy over quantity need, that drove me to check it.
It sounds like either for some reason, your engine is retaining a quart of oil when draining, but this is highly unlikely so the only other answer is a dipstick, or dipstick tube calibration issue. I WOULD TALK TO MY DEALERS SERVICE DEPATMENT ABOUT IT. I'm not saying that you engine is a quart low on oil, but if it is, then it's not a good idea to be running it ongoing a quart low on oil. One quart low won't starve your engine for oil, but it will increase the oil temperature some, and since your engine is designed to operate/run with six (6) quarts, then that is what is needed.
|05-13-2013 02:05 PM|
|05-13-2013 12:11 PM|
|molson||Yes, of course|
|05-13-2013 11:34 AM|
|Binx||Did you change the filter to?|
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