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Today 04:00 PM
Ditchdoc I wish I still had my buggy. That thing was terrifying and had homicidal handling. You would have loved to go for a spin it it.
Today 03:53 PM
Ditchdoc Gee gunner sounds like you need to get a raptor.
Today 03:49 PM
Gunner
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
I guarantee you'd find your limiter that is for sure!
Speed limiter is removed in the computer.
Today 03:48 PM
Gunner Go to the YJ tech section and look up Nutter Bypass. That helps a bunch.
Today 03:47 PM
JoeBot13 This was 20 years ago and it still gives me shivers to think about it
Today 03:45 PM
Ditchdoc My dad had some old Porsche it use a mechanical injection. That thing was genius.
Today 03:41 PM
Ditchdoc
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Vapor lock is an issue, and the lower fuel pressure makes driving inclines difficult to do without stalling. These are issues you'd run into on the trail often, for day to day driving not so much. Maintenance wise it's a nightmare. My first two cars were carbed, and I still have nightmares about this 3-barrel Honda crap of a carb on my first car. I spent more time on that POS's vacuum lines than it took me to strip my engine down to the pistons and rebuild the head. I marked all of the vacuum lines when I took it apart, and still ended up with leftover lines when I put it back together. I hate carbs.
Those Americanized imports were the best. So you think you figured out the rubrics cube, Go figure a carbureted honda.
Today 03:12 PM
JoeBot13 Vapor lock is an issue, and the lower fuel pressure makes driving inclines difficult to do without stalling. These are issues you'd run into on the trail often, for day to day driving not so much. Maintenance wise it's a nightmare. My first two cars were carbed, and I still have nightmares about this 3-barrel Honda crap of a carb on my first car. I spent more time on that POS's vacuum lines than it took me to strip my engine down to the pistons and rebuild the head. I marked all of the vacuum lines when I took it apart, and still ended up with leftover lines when I put it back together. I hate carbs.
Today 02:59 PM
Gunner One thing about Carbs is todays fuels. They have more and more ethanol in them. That attacks older gaskets and parts not designed for it. It also attracts water which then sits in the bottom of fuel bowls and causes sludge and rust. EFI systems don't have these problems. They are designed with the fuels in mind and don't have places for the water to hide.
Today 02:58 PM
Ditchdoc Even on bikes I will take efi over carb but cost kinda takes the fun out of it.
Today 02:54 PM
Ditchdoc Well I'm a person of incredible simplicity. Carburetors believe it or not has more parts and complexity ( not complicated) than any fuel injection.
Plus fuel injection works at higher psi approx 65 psi vs carb at 7 to 15. So more force is always better. Bwha ha ha.
Today 02:49 PM
Serg5000
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I wouldn't but any carbureted vehicle unless a bike.
Whats your reasoning behind that?
Today 02:46 PM
JoeBot13 I guarantee you'd find your limiter that is for sure!
Today 02:43 PM
Gunner I've had a lot of experience on blown motors over the years. One of the big reasons you won't get much boost on a trail is throttle opening. If you don't open the throttle blades then no matter what kind of compressor your using you won't see any appreciable boost. No air in no extra boost. So for crawling it is pretty much a non entity. A Hemi or LS motor will have more low down grunt just due to the extra cubes. A Roots style Blower like the Magnason unit even with the new High twist rotors still has a internal leakage problem due to not being able to completely close the air path from the inlet to the exhaust inside the blower. That lets the air move slightly in both directions. It also does not internally compress the air. The boost happens inside the manifold which lowers the efficiency at high speed. A turbo works great but I don't want all the heat soak issues they have on a hot summer day in the desert.
A Vortech is a true supercharger having the ability to compress the air inside the unit with out having the bleed back issues of a Roots. It does come on softer which I think is great because I don't want a big hit of power while climbing. But at Glamis or Pismo it would let me run in 4 wheel high with the power to pull and not be in 4 to 1 low. And for the street it would be sweet. Hey Joe what do you think a Ripp powered Jeep would do on that lake bed??
Today 01:34 PM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Roost style blowers have a more linear rate in which the boost comes in. A centrifugal like a Ripp is kinda like a belt driven turbo with how the compressor wheel is instead of it being exhaust driven.
Gotcha
Today 01:32 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by Serg5000 View Post
Good morning everyone. Question for all you YJ owners. What are your thought about an 1987 carbureted model. I might be getting one for a great deal.
I wouldn't but any carbureted vehicle unless a bike.
Today 01:17 PM
Serg5000
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Well my wife and I have started our official savings fund for a Ripp Supercharger kit. I just can't leave it alone. I know it won't do me squat on a trail but it is 90% street and in the dunes at glamis or Pismo it could help.
Thats sweet Bob.
Today 12:56 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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*shrugs* I've never had an engine with forced induction, my VERY basic understanding was that superchargers were good for low end power and turbos were good for high end power. But, I'm sure Bob knows what he is doing, and knowing him he will use every bit of HP that Ripp adds. I seem to recall about a year ago his JKU flying down a lake bed at 100+ MPH.
Roost style blowers have a more linear rate in which the boost comes in. A centrifugal like a Ripp is kinda like a belt driven turbo with how the compressor wheel is instead of it being exhaust driven.
Today 12:37 PM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Not at the RPMs we run when crawlin.
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Yeah I've seen where they only start making boost around 2000-2400 rpm
*shrugs* I've never had an engine with forced induction, my VERY basic understanding was that superchargers were good for low end power and turbos were good for high end power. But, I'm sure Bob knows what he is doing, and knowing him he will use every bit of HP that Ripp adds. I seem to recall about a year ago his JKU flying down a lake bed at 100+ MPH.
Today 12:27 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by HDgasser View Post
Not at the RPMs we run when crawlin.
Yeah I've seen where they only start making boost around 2000-2400 rpm
Today 12:16 PM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
Why wouldn't it help on the trail, wouldn't that boost your torque too?
Not at the RPMs we run when crawlin.
Today 12:13 PM
HDgasser
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
Well my wife and I have started our official savings fund for a Ripp Supercharger kit. I just can't leave it alone. I know it won't do me squat on a trail but it is 90% street and in the dunes at glamis or Pismo it could help.
Bob... You of all people should know this already. "There's no replacement for displacement"

I put my foot to the wood and it makes me smile EVERYtime. Offroad you can only go as fast as your suspension allows...
Today 12:11 PM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
Well my wife and I have started our official savings fund for a Ripp Supercharger kit. I just can't leave it alone. I know it won't do me squat on a trail but it is 90% street and in the dunes at glamis or Pismo it could help.
Why wouldn't it help on the trail, wouldn't that boost your torque too?
Today 11:54 AM
Gunner Well my wife and I have started our official savings fund for a Ripp Supercharger kit. I just can't leave it alone. I know it won't do me squat on a trail but it is 90% street and in the dunes at glamis or Pismo it could help.
Today 11:51 AM
Gunner Sweet looking jeep. I agree with the do the EFI swap if it starts to give you problems. But as a street driver it would most likely be just fine.
Today 11:22 AM
Serg5000 Here are a couple pics.



Today 11:19 AM
Serg5000 I'm checking it out today. It's not going to see much off-road at all. It's for my daughter. She will be driving it to and from school and collage.

This YJ has been driven only 12 to 15 times a year. The current owner only used it during winter up in Big Bear for going to town. The motor has 120,000 on it. It's a no rust jeep.
Today 11:11 AM
JoeBot13 As promised Serg, the YJ buyers guide:

Jeep Wrangler YJ Buyers Guide - Jp Magazine

EDIT: By this article, I'd stay away from 87's unless there are a lot of mods already done. The factory transmission and t-case are crap this year. YJ's are great platforms to build from, but I would save yourself some work and stick to the 91's and up.
Today 10:56 AM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by Serg5000 View Post
Good morning everyone.

Question for all you YJ owners. What are your thought about an 1987 carbureted model. I might be getting one for a great deal.
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
The carbs on the YJs are pains, however, since you are a man that doesn't mind the wrench, if it's a smoking deal on that YJ you can alway do an EFI conversion down the road. In fact I would just plan for that as part of the purchase. Only took a buddy of mine a weekend to convert himself, and I don't think the price was too bad on the kit.

There are some other issues, I read an article that broke down all the issues with the YJs by year. I'll try to find that and post it, it's a good read.
Yeah, Steve (Woknrox) recommends going with a '91 or newer. Still might be worth it if you're getting a really good deal.
Today 10:53 AM
otterspop only if you convert it over to fuel injection computer controlled carb nothing but probs. just my 2c
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