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03-13-2014 03:10 PM
Hallvalla Good god that is a bad-ass design, nice job.
03-13-2014 01:30 PM
Jeepin Redneck Can anyone tell me what kind of rims are on DJ Rhoades white jeep?
03-12-2014 10:44 AM
HK_Runner This is my new favorite tire carrier-bumper combo. My AEV was nice but that bumper was just too deep. I guess it is more for the guys who need to carry extra water- very useful for that. Sold the AEV- will consider this one as the mods begin.
03-12-2014 10:23 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by Drock1979 View Post
Can the tire carrier and bumper be purchased separately? Bumper then carrier as a add on?
Sorry but no. We do not sell the carrier separately, to be added on later.
03-03-2014 01:05 PM
Drock1979 Can the tire carrier and bumper be purchased separately? Bumper then carrier as a add on?
03-03-2014 11:54 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by caryt View Post
When will you make a way of carrying a couple of Rotopacs on your carriers?
It has been on our to-do list but I have not seen any movement on it yet from our product development guys. So I can't give you any idea as to when. Sorry.
03-03-2014 11:53 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by vincentzachattack View Post
As they mention that the bumper only comes in bare steel. How easy is it to add color to the bumper so that it looks more unique? Also, what does the bare steel look like? is it black or more of the silver/metal type color? I am stuck between this bumper/ tire carrier and the warn elite series. Ideas on both??
It can be as easy as prep and shoot it with rattle can primer and paint, or as involved (i.e. expensive) as having a paint shop do it. As for what the bare steel looks like, check out the product images on our website. But its sort of a moot point because you HAVE TO either paint or powder coat it. You can't leave it bare.
03-01-2014 09:58 AM
caryt When will you make a way of carrying a couple of Rotopacs on your carriers?
03-01-2014 01:54 AM
vincentzachattack As they mention that the bumper only comes in bare steel. How easy is it to add color to the bumper so that it looks more unique? Also, what does the bare steel look like? is it black or more of the silver/metal type color? I am stuck between this bumper/ tire carrier and the warn elite series. Ideas on both??
02-28-2014 07:57 AM
Drock1979 Looks sweet. Was factory hitch fairly simple to remove? Have you towed anything with this bumper?
02-28-2014 06:47 AM
supercazzola
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Originally Posted by Drock1979 View Post
Cool thanks. I really like the feature that allows it to open with tailgate.
I have the rockbrawler II with tire carrier on my 2013 Sahara. I just bought one of those mag hitch harness holders, and it works well for me.



Attachment 816769

Hopefully, you can zoom in, and look just to the left of the integrated hitch.
02-26-2014 08:28 AM
Drock1979 Cool thanks. I really like the feature that allows it to open with tailgate.
02-26-2014 07:32 AM
Phierce The factory hitch has four bolts to remove and using the harness should not be an issue. I think that PS recommends that the RB2 hitch is only for recovery and not towing.
You can only use the factory hitch with the original Rockbrawler.
02-25-2014 08:53 PM
Drock1979 I am very much considering this bumper. (BAD ASS) I have a factory hitch now and would like to know what is involved in taking that off to install this and could factory harness be utilized on this new bumper? Thank you for your time in this. Is there an option for this bumper with the notch to allow factory hitch to remain in use?
12-14-2013 08:03 AM
supercazzola For those who chose not to use license plate relocation bracket, how did you keep the tire carrier from protruding through your center hub of the wheel, and still keep the tire flush with the carrier to prevent rattling?
06-25-2013 12:39 PM
DTS A few new shots of the RockBrawler II Rear Bumper and Tire Carrier...

Couple of shots I snapped on the trail at Big Bear Forest Fest:





Thanks to Randall Davis for this shot of his fiance Kimmie demonstrating the grocery-getting convenience of the single action tailgate-tire-carrier opening:



Thanks to Tom Westphal at New Smyrna Chrysler Jeep in Florida for these shots.





Thanks to Keith Van Horn for this one:

05-22-2013 05:33 PM
DTS Thanks to DJ Rhoades for these photos of his JK RockBrawler II Rear Bumper with Tire Carrier...





04-16-2013 10:07 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by LHC30 View Post
Dusty, I am an admirer of PS products since seeing them at JPI's shop and on Stan's JK. The "tow rating" is of interest to me and was wondering if you can provide an answer just off that topic.

PS markets the 2" receiver as a "recovery point." Is that recovery point engineered and constructed so as to safely pull the weight of a JK (or JKU) repeatedly and reliably in a safe manner, or should we be concerned that repeated or prolonged use as a recovery point may lead to structural failure? ;-)
We believe it is stronger than the factory tow hitch. It is fully integrated into the 3/16" plate steel bumper, that is then bolted to the Jeep's frame on 3 planes. But since we have not done the lab testing and paid for a tow rating, we can not call it a "tow hitch". As a recovery point, using a proper receiver recovery attachment, we believe it is as strong or stronger than a welded-on shackle tab.

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BTW, class answer on price point and market!
Thanks. Its always difficult to answer a question like that diplomatically LOL...
04-16-2013 10:01 AM
DTS Product Spotlight video for the RockBrawler II Rear Bumper with Tire Carrier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su1HYZRflkY
04-10-2013 02:30 PM
LHC30 Dusty, I am an admirer of PS products since seeing them at JPI's shop and on Stan's JK. The "tow rating" is of interest to me and was wondering if you can provide an answer just off that topic.

PS markets the 2" receiver as a "recovery point." Is that recovery point engineered and constructed so as to safely pull the weight of a JK (or JKU) repeatedly and reliably in a safe manner, or should we be concerned that repeated or prolonged use as a recovery point may lead to structural failure? ;-)

Thanks


BTW, class answer on price point and market!
04-10-2013 10:54 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by Krummy View Post
Your products look great I am not knocking the company btw just making observations as they apply to me. I love the rear bumper just not in the budget today and I do have to tow a boat occasionally so the rating is a necessity. Any plans for a full width bumper in the near future?
We do have plans to start working on some full width stuff, both front and rear. Our roots are more from the hard core rock crawling side, so the "expedition" type stuff is a segment we've been looking in to for future growth. That said, I have no definite time frame that I can quote for that.
04-09-2013 06:36 AM
Krummy
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Originally Posted by DTS View Post

Well hopefully some day when we are at the point that we can do a tow rating on it, we can gain you as a customer. And honestly that's the best incentive for getting those done, as we know it is important for some folks. But if you're not able to wait until then and need to choose some other product that has the features you need and is available already, of course we can't blame you for that.
Your products look great I am not knocking the company btw just making observations as they apply to me. I love the rear bumper just not in the budget today and I do have to tow a boat occasionally so the rating is a necessity. Any plans for a full width bumper in the near future?
04-08-2013 10:45 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by Krummy View Post
I here you and I do pay for quality so I wouldn't say I am not your target market. But I would expect premium quality and features if i pay a premium price so if the hitch is not tow rated that would be a problem for me. Maybe that's not the case.
Well hopefully some day when we are at the point that we can do a tow rating on it, we can gain you as a customer. And honestly that's the best incentive for getting those done, as we know it is important for some folks. But if you're not able to wait until then and need to choose some other product that has the features you need and is available already, of course we can't blame you for that.
04-08-2013 10:38 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by Riccochet View Post
$1500 is a bit pricey. Does it come painted/powder coated?
No, at this time it only comes in bare steel.

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Originally Posted by connorcrush View Post
There's a thread about this in the JK section, people were asking about the tow rating and I was hoping you would chime in.. Bumper looks great though
I haven't seen that thread, I'll go look for it. But to answer your question we have not done the independent lab testing and regulatory red tape that is required to get an official tow rating on it. For the same reason, you'll rarely see tow ratings on rear bumpers made by small and medium manufacturers like us. When you make a couple dozen at a time its harder to spread the costs out than if you're making hundreds of them at a time. But we hope to be big enough to be able to justify those costs soon. Until then we just have to build it as strong as we can but not officially claim it as a "tow" hitch.
04-08-2013 10:30 AM
DTS
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Originally Posted by tlminh View Post
Hey dusty, what happened to the product video that was posted on the website? It was up for a few hours then it was taken down

For some reason, it looks like the bumper in the video was little bit wider/larger coverage than the pictures posted here.

The new bumper says there's a wee bit more coverage, based on these pics, it's hard to differentiate between the two
I took that video down after I realized there were a few features of the bumper that were different on the prototype unit used in that video (shot several months ago) versus the final production units that are now available. We'll have an updated video up for it soon. But yes, one of the changes was that this bumper is not quite as wide as the prototype was, and does not reach forward all the way to the wheel opening on the sides the way the prototype did.
04-05-2013 10:47 PM
tlminh Hey dusty, what happened to the product video that was posted on the website? It was up for a few hours then it was taken down

For some reason, it looks like the bumper in the video was little bit wider/larger coverage than the pictures posted here.

The new bumper says there's a wee bit more coverage, based on these pics, it's hard to differentiate between the two
04-05-2013 08:53 PM
Krummy
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Originally Posted by DTS View Post

I'm not familiar with Bestop's product so I can't speak about it specifically. But I can say in more general terms, there are always cheaper products on the market than ours. We don't try to compete on price because there's always someone who can build something cheaper than us, either by building it overseas with slave labor or using cheaper components or methods, or less features, etc. We just design and build the best product we can, and price it where it needs to be in order to cover our costs and make an ROI. For some folks that prices us out of their market, and that's OK with us. There will always be a need in the market for cheaper goods, and we're happy to cede that segment to other manufacturers. But we're grateful that there's also a market for high quality, American made goods, and thankfully those folks keep us growing.
I here you and I do pay for quality so I wouldn't say I am not your target market. But I would expect premium quality and features if i pay a premium price so if the hitch is not tow rated that would be a problem for me. Maybe that's not the case.
04-05-2013 07:32 PM
connorcrush There's a thread about this in the JK section, people were asking about the tow rating and I was hoping you would chime in.. Bumper looks great though
04-05-2013 07:01 PM
Riccochet $1500 is a bit pricey. Does it come painted/powder coated?
04-05-2013 01:03 PM
DTS
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Originally Posted by Krummy View Post
If you watch the video as you close it that triangle raises up and seats in the bracket. Itt says it controls rattling and make it sit solid when closed which looks good. Looks sweet but pricey I could get a new front and rear for less than just the rear. Really is there a big difference between this and say the Bestop Highrock which has a similar look for around $800?
I'm not familiar with Bestop's product so I can't speak about it specifically. But I can say in more general terms, there are always cheaper products on the market than ours. We don't try to compete on price because there's always someone who can build something cheaper than us, either by building it overseas with slave labor or using cheaper components or methods, or less features, etc. We just design and build the best product we can, and price it where it needs to be in order to cover our costs and make an ROI. For some folks that prices us out of their market, and that's OK with us. There will always be a need in the market for cheaper goods, and we're happy to cede that segment to other manufacturers. But we're grateful that there's also a market for high quality, American made goods, and thankfully those folks keep us growing.
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