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Today 01:21 AM
Jrod9707 Thanks to both Walt A and Wrix for the pics and ideas! I think this is the route I'm going to go but will have to wait until I decide what wheels I'm going to put on( due to new spare wheel).

Going through the tail lights is very easy just use a red connect splice 18-22 gauge where the wire goes from each side to connect that way you can tie the camera wire into one of the sides and then connect and there wont be any issue with length. I also used speaker wire to extend the connection so I would have extra play if needed(I think it was like 6-8 inches in length). It was 16 gauge wire so I had to cut 70% of the wire off so it would go in splice.

This was such an easy job just took a little time maybe 3 hours for wiring and running the wires and connecting to deck. as I'm pretty meticulous. I was glad I still had my old pull tool I bought 20 years ago and never used. Made taking the plastic plugs on the trim easy to pull out.

Only suggestion I would have is after you connect the wires to taillight hook it up to a TV to make sure everything works before running it to the radio.

Watching this video made everything way easier - part 1 and 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdar9ev_cTc
Yesterday 08:06 PM
ikanspelwel
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Originally Posted by PJM86 View Post
I am installing my Camera this weekend. Is it possible to tap into the 4 pin wiring harness (hitch harness) to acquire power for the rear camera as opposed to having to tap into the rear tail lights? If so, anyone know which color wire is the one to use?

Thanks..
There isn't a reverse wire on the four pin. The four wires are ground, right turn, left turn, and running lights.

Adam
Yesterday 07:46 PM
PJM86 I am installing the PAC CHYRVD Rear Video Retention Cable For Select Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep Vehicles from Amazon on my 2013 JKUR 10A this weekend. I will keep you all posted on the install. I bought the Esky EC170-06 World Smallest HD Color CCD Waterproof Vehicle Car Rear View Backup Camera, 170 Degree Viewing Angle Rearview Camera(0.86*0.65*0.50 inch) camera to use as a back up. I am hoping the install goes smoothly. I have to say, I am very impressed with all the write ups regarding this install. It has given me the ability to attempt to do the install myself.

Thanks again.
Yesterday 04:41 PM
wrix Pics are worth a thousand words. Sell my design? I'd love to quit my job and manufacture these but it's only $1.50 worth of parts and a spray can. I'm honored that others think it's worth copying! I picked these parts so others could easily buy the part and make their own with little to no work required.
Yesterday 03:35 PM
Bad_Dog
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
I ran the wires thru the grommet for the 3brake line. Didn't cut the hole bigger yet. Camera can be disconnected inside tailgate which I like. Access is thru slotted panel on rt inside tailgate.
How are you disconnecting the camera, if you had to?

I'm considering installing my camera in the center cap of my spare, but also need to be able to actually use my spare without having to take apart everything.

BTW, ever plan on selling your bracket design?
Yesterday 02:19 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Jrod9707 View Post
Walt you don't have a inside/ outside picture of this or can post one can you?
I posted such a while ago here....

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/re...l#post10625418

In the first picture, you can see the "thin" camera cable running into the existing large grommet on the right side of the spare tire mount.

In the second picture, you can see the camera cable, and a bit of the black plastic conduit I used to protect the wiring from wear, coming out of the access hole, sort-of toward the right side of the picture.
Yesterday 01:46 PM
Jrod9707
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
One can also run the wires thru the currently unused grommet to the right (passenger) side of the spare tire mount.
Another great idea! And thanks for yours WRIX!
Walt you don't have a inside/ outside picture of this or can post one can you?
Mine is currently getting the 10A hood put on and I probably won't have it till Monday.
Yesterday 01:41 PM
Jrod9707
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
After the radio is flashed, there is a new setup option that lets you enable/disable the feature. I just disabled it until I got around to installing my rear camera. No black screen, nor simply just CHECK YOUR SURROUNDINGS, in the mean time.

Good tip!
Yesterday 01:01 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
I ran the wires thru the grommet for the 3brake line. Didn't cut the hole bigger yet. Camera can be disconnected inside tailgate which I like. Access is thru slotted panel on rt inside tailgate.
One can also run the wires thru the currently unused grommet to the right (passenger) side of the spare tire mount.
Yesterday 12:48 PM
wrix I ran the wires thru the grommet for the 3brake line. Didn't cut the hole bigger yet. Camera can be disconnected inside tailgate which I like. Access is thru slotted panel on rt inside tailgate.
Yesterday 12:30 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Jrod9707 View Post
First off dealer doesn't need camera hooked up. I had my dealer flash the radio when they were doing the inspection on the jeep when it arrived. Now the radio screen goes black in reverse and says CHECK YOUR SURROUNDINGS until it's out of reverse.
After the radio is flashed, there is a new setup option that lets you enable/disable the feature. I just disabled it until I got around to installing my rear camera. No black screen, nor simply just CHECK YOUR SURROUNDINGS, in the mean time.
Yesterday 12:24 PM
Jrod9707
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
Here's the pics of the Home Depot 1/2" pipe holder now camera holder. I wanted to find something that anyone could buy with no modifications needed. Just bent it to the right hight. May add a plastic cover to fill in wheel hole and push camera thru that. No need to remove/drill thru bumper with this set up.
That looks really good. I was going to drill through the bumper but I might go this route now. My jeep is getting modded now so I can't look at it for myself but where did you run the wires through on the tire carrier?
Yesterday 12:17 PM
Jrod9707 First off dealer doesn't need camera hooked up. I had my dealer flash the radio when they were doing the inspection on the jeep when it arrived. Now the radio screen goes black in reverse and says CHECK YOUR SURROUNDINGS until it's out of reverse.

Second if your dealership is being a douche now is a good time as any to just wire it up and then attach the camera and leave it sit in the cargo area. After it's wired in to the tai lights just bring a small tv or portable one and connect while the trans is in reverse, don't forget to engage the emergency brake. Then you'll know it's working and the stealer ship can flash it. Also you don't have to turn the engine over just put key in accessory, trans will go in reverse and have emergency brake engaged.
Yesterday 09:05 AM
MarkMN
Very Nice.

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Originally Posted by chargermop View Post
Here's a little easier bracket to make and I added a high mount stoplight.
Would you be willing to give some more detail on your process and share the template if there is one? Your install looks perfect and I would love to copy it. The dealer flashed my Jeep prior to delivery so the rest is on me. Thanks.
Yesterday 08:55 AM
tomba
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
Ok. The pipe hanger is from Home Depot. It's the 6" long version for a 1/2" pipe. Don't laugh but the splash guard came out of my recycle bin. Was looking for black plastic that I wouldn't have to paint. I used the drill bit that came with the camera to make the hole. Any black sheet plastic should work so long as it's thin enough to be supported by the camera bracket.
x3 here...My Jeep is going in for an oil change at the dealer this weekend and I'll have them flash my radio too. I reall like your solution for mounting...sure beats the snot out of what others are charging for a "kit". I'm still planning to do 1 thing different...I'm planning on hooking up the camera power switch to an unused switch on my A-Pillar switch block so I can turn it on as I wish....I might even connect it to both so it'll come on in reverse AND at the flip of a switch.
Yesterday 08:31 AM
Bad_Dog
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Originally Posted by JAustin View Post
I agree, but every dealer in my area (there are 4) wanted about the same amount (~ $105) to do the programming, and all required that the camera be hooked up first.

It wasn't worth my time to drive 1+ hours further away, even if I could find another dealer who would do it for less. And while it isn't necessary to have the camera hooked up prior to programming, I think they all want it done, so that they can confirm proper operation while your vehicle's in the service bay.
Same here. When I brought mine in for my free oil change, I asked them to scan the radio and update it with the rear camera code. The service writer didn't really understand what I was wanting so I had to explain the steps. He printed out the work order, I looked it over and signed off on it. Came to pick it up and said that they couldn't do it because I didn't have the camera hooked-up yet. I explained that I was going to do it that weekend...

Anyway, I went ahead and bought the Mygig Lockpick V5 instead. Much rather spend money on something that I can 'control' instead of giving it to a dealership that needs to spend a few minutes to make a software update.
08-26-2014 07:52 PM
PJM86 i just had my local dealer flash the radio (730N) this afternoon. I have not hooked up anything yet. I will try to install camera this weekend, depending on my schedule. They also did it free of charge. Took about 10 minutes.
08-26-2014 06:20 PM
JAustin
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Originally Posted by billp911 View Post
You do not need the camera hooked up to flash the radio. And charging you over $100 is BS. It took the dealer 5 min to get it done. Time to find another dealer.
I agree, but every dealer in my area (there are 4) wanted about the same amount (~ $105) to do the programming, and all required that the camera be hooked up first.

It wasn't worth my time to drive 1+ hours further away, even if I could find another dealer who would do it for less. And while it isn't necessary to have the camera hooked up prior to programming, I think they all want it done, so that they can confirm proper operation while your vehicle's in the service bay.
08-21-2014 02:49 PM
chargermop Here's a little easier bracket to make and I added a high mount stoplight.
08-21-2014 02:25 PM
wrix Ok. The pipe hanger is from Home Depot. It's the 6" long version for a 1/2" pipe. Don't laugh but the splash guard came out of my recycle bin. Was looking for black plastic that I wouldn't have to paint. I used the drill bit that came with the camera to make the hole. Any black sheet plastic should work so long as it's thin enough to be supported by the camera bracket.
08-21-2014 02:13 PM
CajunMexican
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Originally Posted by wrix View Post
My camera wasn't grounded properly so it didn't come on with flash. Dealership asked if I wanted them to look into it. I asked if it was included in the hour charge. The tech said "no" so I said not to touch it. So it doesn't have to be working to flash radio. I've added a "splash" protector to my setup. Figure it will deter theft and looks a little cleaner too.
I want to copy your setup exactly! :-)

I love the splash guard idea, it's functional and gives it a clean look. What did you use for the splash guard material?
08-21-2014 02:03 PM
wrix My camera wasn't grounded properly so it didn't come on with flash. Dealership asked if I wanted them to look into it. I asked if it was included in the hour charge. The tech said "no" so I said not to touch it. So it doesn't have to be working to flash radio. I've added a "splash" protector to my setup. Figure it will deter theft and looks a little cleaner too.
08-21-2014 01:18 PM
billp911 You do not need the camera hooked up to flash the radio. And charging you over $100 is BS. It took the dealer 5 min to get it done. Time to find another dealer.
08-21-2014 01:15 PM
Argent
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Originally Posted by CajunMexican View Post
I just called the 2 dealerships near me. One of them knew exactly what I was talking about and quoted me $113. The other had to check in to it and call me back. When they called back they said the camera has to be connected for them to flash it because the radio has to 'see' the camera connected to it in order to enable that option and that it would also be around $113 to flash. That doesn't seem to be correct as several on here have flashed and then added the camera.

So seems like it's going to cost me $113 to flash (obviously I will bring it to the dealership that knows what they're talking about) plus camera and pigtail so under $200 to add a backup camera isn't too bad.
Correct - I had mine flashed (to make sure it actually worked) before I bothered drilling a hole in my bumper and installing my camera. I knew it worked because when I put it in reverse the screen switched over to a black screen that said Check your entire surroundings.
08-21-2014 12:20 PM
CajunMexican I just called the 2 dealerships near me. One of them knew exactly what I was talking about and quoted me $113. The other had to check in to it and call me back. When they called back they said the camera has to be connected for them to flash it because the radio has to 'see' the camera connected to it in order to enable that option and that it would also be around $113 to flash. That doesn't seem to be correct as several on here have flashed and then added the camera.

So seems like it's going to cost me $113 to flash (obviously I will bring it to the dealership that knows what they're talking about) plus camera and pigtail so under $200 to add a backup camera isn't too bad.
08-21-2014 09:48 AM
Argent
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
IMHO, it more that they are mechanics not computer programmers. So, we're asking them to do a task for which they might not feel all that comfortable.

Because of that fear, and a need to cover-their-ass, I guess they need to add time into their quote to cover if things taking longer, or they simply refuse to do it.

I will concede, sometimes it isn't as simple as flipping a bit. Chrysler might require them to do a full firmware upgrade first and all sorts of things could go wrong when doing that. Plus, they not only have to update your car, they have to update Chrysler's master database. I mean, I can log into the owner's website, and it will show that I had the Parkview Rear Camera option added to my Jeep at the dealership.

We all know, and accept too, that if we reflash our DVR or phone, there is some chance we will "brick" it. "Bricking" a car is a far worse.
My tech friend who reflashed mine for me - asked if it was my hair brained scheme to try and do this - he had zero confidence that it would actually work.....until it did. But yeah technically if its done at the dealership and they brick it doing something 'non-standard' they are then on the hook to fix it. Now two thoughts about dealership pricing for said flash - either they don't want to try doing it - so they figure they'll toss out a big number that most people wouldn't pay for and you'll go away (and then if it goes south its not their problem) or they're willing to try it - and soak you for whatever they think you'll pay (in the interest of making money - because nothing is 'free' at a dealership)
08-21-2014 09:32 AM
panthermark I really like the plate mounted version. Even though I have the Gino camera in my bumper that I love...I just added that plate mounted version to my wish list. If I ever get ahold of a 10A bumper for nearly free, I'll need a new camera.
08-21-2014 09:31 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by KPM171 View Post
Anyone have any insight why the differences b/t dealerships? Is it a liability issue perhaps?
IMHO, it more that they are mechanics not computer programmers. So, we're asking them to do a task for which they might not feel all that comfortable.

Because of that fear, and a need to cover-their-ass, I guess they need to add time into their quote to cover if things taking longer, or they simply refuse to do it.

I will concede, sometimes it isn't as simple as flipping a bit. Chrysler might require them to do a full firmware upgrade first and all sorts of things could go wrong when doing that. Plus, they not only have to update your car, they have to update Chrysler's master database. I mean, I can log into the owner's website, and it will show that I had the Parkview Rear Camera option added to my Jeep at the dealership.

We all know, and accept too, that if we reflash our DVR or phone, there is some chance we will "brick" it. "Bricking" a car is a far worse.
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
KPM171
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Originally Posted by Fleche View Post
I was getting a speaker replaced today and my dealer tried to charge me $115 to flash the radio. I said I'd go elsewhere...
I really wish all the dealerships would get on the same page with this service. Just charge the 0.5 hrs (or free for kick a$$ customers) of labor to flash that code and be done with it. Some dealerships want closer to $150 and others don't seem to want to perform a simple flash in the first place.

Anyone have any insight why the differences b/t dealerships? Is it a liability issue perhaps?
08-21-2014 07:29 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Fleche View Post
I was getting a speaker replaced today and my dealer tried to charge me $115 to flash the radio. I said I'd go elsewhere...
Sounds like they are trying to charge their standard one-hour minimum, even though we're talking about just minutes of work to flash.
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