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04-15-2013 01:39 AM
WellsR
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Originally Posted by magicman37 View Post
Look buy it and you won't ever look back. As far as safety a wrangler is not the best bet, gas mileage not the best bet, affordability not the best bet. But you can't kill them no matter how hard you beat on them... and i haven't met a girl yet that didn't thoroughly enjoy riding around without the top or doors. No one notices the kid in the honda or the late model F-150 however the kid with the wrangler turns all kinds of heads. There's guys with lifted trucks certain types of muscle cars that mommy and daddy bought that you won't be able to afford but you know what nostalgia f*$k the haters. 4x4 for winter if it applies to you top off for summer conditions ive had my 04 for almost 4 years and every time i want to get something new i just think of when summer rolls around and how uneventful rolling down to the beach would be in a truck or a sweet car. So all in all terribly impractical first vehicle, however practicality never got anywhere in life so go out buy the baddest wrangler you can afford and run it into the ground because you will enjoy the shit out of it and that concludes my rant.
I liked that
04-14-2013 03:36 PM
magicman37 Look buy it and you won't ever look back. As far as safety a wrangler is not the best bet, gas mileage not the best bet, affordability not the best bet. But you can't kill them no matter how hard you beat on them... and i haven't met a girl yet that didn't thoroughly enjoy riding around without the top or doors. No one notices the kid in the honda or the late model F-150 however the kid with the wrangler turns all kinds of heads. There's guys with lifted trucks certain types of muscle cars that mommy and daddy bought that you won't be able to afford but you know what nostalgia f*$k the haters. 4x4 for winter if it applies to you top off for summer conditions ive had my 04 for almost 4 years and every time i want to get something new i just think of when summer rolls around and how uneventful rolling down to the beach would be in a truck or a sweet car. So all in all terribly impractical first vehicle, however practicality never got anywhere in life so go out buy the baddest wrangler you can afford and run it into the ground because you will enjoy the shit out of it and that concludes my rant.
04-14-2013 03:25 PM
jp2611 nice lookin Jeep!!!
04-14-2013 03:23 PM
adamfitz I GOT A JEEP TODAY GUYS. 98" with a small lift running 33"s but I'm pulling them down to 31 most likely cause its too much. It's so amazing got a hardtop for the cost too with 132,xxx miles. I couldn't have made the decision without the help from all of you guys. I love it with all my heart
04-11-2013 10:08 AM
GingerTJ Mine is my first vehicle...

Just a be prepared for lots of work keeping it nice and rust free. And 10 mpg.
04-10-2013 10:02 AM
lemm1388 My 2 cents...

By a Jeep, they are fun durable and fun. But what ever you do make sure its a manual not enough kids know how to drive one anymore. I include myself in this group i am 24 and just bought my first manual a year and a half ago a 2012 Wrangler Sport s. Sure I might have been a little rough learning the finer points but I love my Jeep and I love my manual. Its a built in anti-theft device and will keep most people from borrowing it.

As for as cost of repair - I bought my Jeep for its reliability. Wranglers have been one of the highest valued resale vehicles for over ten years. That says something about quality.
04-10-2013 06:42 AM
WellsR
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Originally Posted by scott-tj View Post
I say get a standard and learn to drive it. There is nothing more fun than driving a standard and its a valuable skill to have.
Lol like I said in my essay I got a lot of people to learn how to drive a manual. I love driving one, and if I have to drive somebody elses vehicle and its an auto I find myself going for the clutch often. And when my ingnition lock broke before I fixed it and my friends would ask(seeing as I never lock it or when theres no top on) how do you know nobody would steal it? I would always say because not to many people can drive a manual so Im pretty safe, and not alot of people would think the ignition lock is broken.
04-10-2013 06:36 AM
scott-tj
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Originally Posted by Cole Noah View Post
I'm 17 and I got my first jeep 4 days ago. I got a well taken care of 1990 YJ islander for 5800$. I love it. Although I can say, a lot of people out age couldn't handle a stick jeep. I read someone else on here posted jeeps make you a more defensive driver, and the definitely do that. If you can't think on your toes and make quick decision, I wouldn't get one. If you can't stay focused on what you are doing, don't get one. If you aren't familiar with a stick, GET A AUTOMATIC. My jeep is a stick and while I like it, it can be a pain. It's very different from many other sticks I have driven.

Now to talk about something you actually care about reading, jeeps are coolest thing ever.
Definite chick magnet
Superior off road, on trails.
And what's cooler than a convertible?

So my personal opinion coming from someone who has been exactly where you are,
Get one, but get a automatic. Unless you know you can handle the stick or at least test out how they drive and get a good feel for the clutch.

Hope this helps

I say get a standard and learn to drive it. There is nothing more fun than driving a standard and its a valuable skill to have.
04-09-2013 11:21 PM
arizonawrangler A Jeep Wrangler was not my first 'ride. But it will be my last. Buy and don't look back.
04-09-2013 07:49 AM
JRobes my dad grew up buying/rebuilding jeeps in his younger years and its passing on to me. I now own a WJ Overland and am looking for a JK. I'd say go for it... I know he misses owning one.
04-09-2013 06:56 AM
WellsR
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Originally Posted by BlackHazard View Post
I know the feeling (Both on the first love and white boy rap parts.) The Power Wheels hit home too. Battery pack was a killer to change though.
Oh yea they were. I rember my dad helping me put the rubber bungie cords around the tires for traction in the snow and everything else since the plastic spun on everything and on the power wheels they make now the integrated a rubber strip on the tires, like the bungie cord. Makes me laugh pretty good seeing as I was pretty far ahead of them lol
04-09-2013 04:23 AM
BlackHazard
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Originally Posted by WellsR View Post
Jeeps are first love. Seeng as mine was my first vehicle, are reading that other people get rid of them then buy another I've decided I'm never getting rid of mine. I've promised everybody that and I'm gonna hold to it. You can't put a price on mine.

And I've always listened to rap. When people see me step out of my jeep with dr. Dre bumpin and see my jeep all mudded and what I'm wearing and that I'm white they are normally pretty shocked.
I know the feeling (Both on the first love and white boy rap parts.) The Power Wheels hit home too. Battery pack was a killer to change though.
04-09-2013 04:14 AM
WellsR Jeeps are first love. Seeng as mine was my first vehicle, are reading that other people get rid of them then buy another I've decided I'm never getting rid of mine. I've promised everybody that and I'm gonna hold to it. You can't put a price on mine.

And I've always listened to rap. When people see me step out of my jeep with dr. Dre bumpin and see my jeep all mudded and what I'm wearing and that I'm white they are normally pretty shocked.
04-09-2013 04:03 AM
Zevman Now the only problem I see with a Jeep for a first car is that it's like a first love, if you ever get rid of out and go with something you think is better for you age (when you're older), you will still love that damn Jeep. Then you get older and say WTH, life is an adventure and buy another Jeep "stock" so you fix it up again and live the entire journey making it your own and the adventures you'll have all over again. At least that's how it happend to me.
04-09-2013 03:47 AM
BlackHazard
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Originally Posted by adamfitz View Post
Hey,

My name is Adam. I am 16 years old and I am thinking about buying a Jeep Wrangler for my first car. I have been saving up all my money and working for two years, and have saved about 6500$. I have been looking and Jeeps in that price range are usually the late 1990s.

I was wondering if anyone had any advice regarding Jeeps for first cars, as if they are practical, reliable, and are they easy/cheap to fix. I really would love to get a Jeep however I want to know from guys who have had experience if for a first car if it is a good idea.


Thank you,
Adam
Don't know if you're still checking, but I'm 17.

I've saved up money from literally every event/holiday/gift I could imagine, including money from work.

I spent a good $16,000 on a ridiculously clean 2005 TJ Unlimited with little to no rust, and have loved every minute of it.

A couple of the nice parts about a Jeep is the fact that:

A: I'm not car wash obsessive like the other guys at my school. (I actually enjoy mud all over the side of my ride.)

B: It's been somewhat easy to do customize it to my liking. I got a decent stereo system installed with some help from the family (Which conveniently would've only fit in the unlimited or I would've had to put down a row of seats.) I have a 48" farm jack strapped to the roll bars right above the Subwoofer Enclosure (Used pieces of rubber and aluminum and a leather belt to get it to stay in place nicely, looks decent too.) An 8,000 Pound Capacity Mile Marker Winch for the front covered with a Mile Marker bag, and the Fairlead is covered by my license plate that may freely flip up and down when necessary (Purchased a kit but I felt like somebody could just rip it off too easily so I bent some steel and drilled some holes and now it's nice and secure.) Blacked out tail lights, signal lights etc. Did some interior LED work at the front (More family help) So that the lighting comes on when the stereo is turned on. And lastly, drilled a hole through the (Want to say hood latch but I know those are for the sides) in the middle of the jeep just in the center of the grill, slapped a lock on it and boom, my hood is now un-openable without the key. Would've put new rims and a slight lift in this little write up but they came with the Jeep so it doesn't count.

Next up: HornBlasters Shocker XL Train Horn, Blackout Decal on the hood, and maybe some Diamond paneling under the doors. Also relocation of those pesky mirrors.

C: (Probably forgot that I was doing lettering at this point but oh well) It has greatly improved my driving skill. Being in a vehicle that you're aware will **** you over if your drive like an idiot (Excess speeds) really helps you slow down and enjoy the ride. (Although I guess a negative is that if there's little parking bumps and side barriers made of concrete you get little urges to run them over for the hell of it, mostly because you can. I've never acted on the urge to run things over yet, but I can tell you it's a pain in the ass to keep yourself in line.) For daily road driving though you'll find yourself being more of a careful driver

D: Waving. No explanation. Just wave. (Although I've noticed a larger amount of new JK owners aren't aware of this and I find myself looking like a moron in front of people, however... Wave on)

E: You can take things off and drop things down.

F: Most people are willing to help, if you have problems, if you need a tip, mod details etc. And they're happy to do it just to see the Jeep Legacy live on.

Summary:

It's a generally all around amazing vehicle that aids you in not driving like an idiot (Unless your anywhere not on a road) that has no age cap and no limitations (Although you might be pushing it if you want it as a submarine) and that I'm sure you'd enjoy. In fact I joined the forums just to write this up for you. So... I guess owning a Jeep has also made me more sympathetic to other Jeep owners with questions that need to be answered. Go figure.

If you end up with a Jeep, enjoy it. It'll be one of the best personal investments and experiences you could have.



Side Note: Your musical tastes may be affected too. I never pictured myself being seventeen rocking this down the street with a couple buddies in the car laughing our asses off at hummers and cheesy riced up hondas.

The Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia - YouTube

This is coming from a guy who's musical primary is intricate rap, but Jeeps tend to change you up a bit.

04-08-2013 06:31 AM
taterhed
should you buy a jeep....

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Originally Posted by WellsR View Post
I always drove power wheels Jeeps when I was little and couldnt wait untill I could buy a real one. When I was little I always just wanted a jeep with the square headlights. I got my yj when I was 15. Im about to turn 19 and have owned no other vehicle besides the jeep yet. I got mine for 1200 dollars, but that was a family deal. I always worked on cars with my dad growing up but didnt know much about jeeps. All I knew was it had square headlights and it was cheaper then any other one I could find so obviously I bought it. After I got it I started researching, mad that I got one with the 2.5l but got lucky since it was a 92 so it was mpi, but everything else was pretty damn good looking for 160,xxx on it. So for a year or so I hated myself at jumping the gun and getting one with the 2.5l but that slowly changed and some how I fell in love with the 2.5l. My dad was and still is worried about it not having air bags, and that I went from a family cage to a sport cage, but he did like that it was slow, lol. He always asks me when Im gonna sell it and get something more practical, because he laughs when I load it up with metal to take to the scrap yard, and when I show up with me and 4 friends packed in it and to get something with a little more then 10mpg. Besides that I only have a 5 minute drive to work so none of that bothers me, like i tell him its a jeep thing. If it wasnt for me and my best friend wheeling it to death, im sure it would still look new. So in the past few years Ive put a solid $800 into it to keep it going, but at least $600 of that was due to me knowing it was going to break as I kept driving it. Now if you ask me thats not to bad for owning it for almost 4 years and like I said it could have been cheaper if I didnt do the things I did. Literally just the other day it hit 200,000 miles, and the clutch started to go, which is funny cause for the past few months ive been telling everybody once it hits 200,000 its gonna blow up so I can drop a 6 or an 8 in it, but instead it was just my clutch. So another $150 but thats more common then $600 from when I blew up my tc(getting it sideways, like its a car). I got several of my friend around my age give or take some want to sell there sonatas and acuras and hondas and even a few full/mid sized picukups to get a jeep. Everybody loves when theres no top on it and no doors and alot of the times they want to go off roading, even when the never have before. Ive taught a few people how to drive a stick in it and when they go buy a car(because the cant afford a jeep lol) they say driving what ever manual car the got it like an automatic compared to my jeep, and people only get to drive it with me in it. Only problem it every single dollar I make that itsnt for rent, food, etc goes in to my jeep, wether its gas or the oil it burns to the tires and rims I just got(and we all know that its just gonna get bigger). But dont keep anything important in it, I never have an never will. I would say its not a bad choice for a first vehicle. And Im not getting rid of it anytime soon, if I stop driving it, itll become a lawn decoration but I dont see that happening anytime soon. Im even looking for another Jeep, but not a wrangler, a comanche(mj).

Yea it was long, but Im at work and have nothing better to do.

TL;DR - Id say a good first vehicle.

Now that's a Jeep story. Best answer I've seen yet. Good on ya.
04-07-2013 01:12 AM
WellsR I always drove power wheels Jeeps when I was little and couldnt wait untill I could buy a real one. When I was little I always just wanted a jeep with the square headlights. I got my yj when I was 15. Im about to turn 19 and have owned no other vehicle besides the jeep yet. I got mine for 1200 dollars, but that was a family deal. I always worked on cars with my dad growing up but didnt know much about jeeps. All I knew was it had square headlights and it was cheaper then any other one I could find so obviously I bought it. After I got it I started researching, mad that I got one with the 2.5l but got lucky since it was a 92 so it was mpi, but everything else was pretty damn good looking for 160,xxx on it. So for a year or so I hated myself at jumping the gun and getting one with the 2.5l but that slowly changed and some how I fell in love with the 2.5l. My dad was and still is worried about it not having air bags, and that I went from a family cage to a sport cage, but he did like that it was slow, lol. He always asks me when Im gonna sell it and get something more practical, because he laughs when I load it up with metal to take to the scrap yard, and when I show up with me and 4 friends packed in it and to get something with a little more then 10mpg. Besides that I only have a 5 minute drive to work so none of that bothers me, like i tell him its a jeep thing. If it wasnt for me and my best friend wheeling it to death, im sure it would still look new. So in the past few years Ive put a solid $800 into it to keep it going, but at least $600 of that was due to me knowing it was going to break as I kept driving it. Now if you ask me thats not to bad for owning it for almost 4 years and like I said it could have been cheaper if I didnt do the things I did. Literally just the other day it hit 200,000 miles, and the clutch started to go, which is funny cause for the past few months ive been telling everybody once it hits 200,000 its gonna blow up so I can drop a 6 or an 8 in it, but instead it was just my clutch. So another $150 but thats more common then $600 from when I blew up my tc(getting it sideways, like its a car). I got several of my friend around my age give or take some want to sell there sonatas and acuras and hondas and even a few full/mid sized picukups to get a jeep. Everybody loves when theres no top on it and no doors and alot of the times they want to go off roading, even when the never have before. Ive taught a few people how to drive a stick in it and when they go buy a car(because the cant afford a jeep lol) they say driving what ever manual car the got it like an automatic compared to my jeep, and people only get to drive it with me in it. Only problem it every single dollar I make that itsnt for rent, food, etc goes in to my jeep, wether its gas or the oil it burns to the tires and rims I just got(and we all know that its just gonna get bigger). But dont keep anything important in it, I never have an never will. I would say its not a bad choice for a first vehicle. And Im not getting rid of it anytime soon, if I stop driving it, itll become a lawn decoration but I dont see that happening anytime soon. Im even looking for another Jeep, but not a wrangler, a comanche(mj).

Yea it was long, but Im at work and have nothing better to do.

TL;DR - Id say a good first vehicle.
04-06-2013 09:52 AM
chetzki Adam - Go for it. My son is 15 and I bought him a 2005 (TJ) a year ago for him to have as his first "car". He's been driving it off and on and now has a learner's permit. It's not all that practical. It's a rag top with soft door uppers and someone can easily break in or damage the top. We don't live in a high crime area so I'm not too worried. It only has 4 seatbelts and very little storage. But we put a hitch on it and can haul bikes, beach gear, surfboards, etc. We absolutely love this thing. He is proud of it. So it will get him around, it's unique and it's fun! It has been easy to work on. We've done a few mods, change oil, etc. Will do spark plugs soon. Engine is more accessible than others I've seen. It's loud on the highway, it leaks oil, smells like hot coolant. I don't see it flipping over. It's solid and drives straight. We love it and we're going to have to have a knock down drag out fight when it's time to give him the keys!
04-06-2013 09:24 AM
Four Wheel Archer
How will it work for you

I am now in my 40s and I have had many, many vehicles. Many of the comments above say that the Jeeps will be money pits and that is only true if the vehicle is drove hard or if you constantly wish to do all kinds of modifications. Any vehicle you get could need repairs. That is just part of owning a vehicle. Jeeps are fantastic because they are easy to work on, there are many places to get parts so they are less expensive than some foreign cars, and they are versatile with their capabilities. I would say if you like the style and you like driving them then get one!
04-06-2013 06:52 AM
kornivore
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Originally Posted by NCJeepin View Post
It won't roll on the road unless you are extremely dumb or in certain extreme cases, which would have most any other SUV on its top, too. I would recommend a TJ (I'm a little biased) since it's more up to date, but not new enough to have tons of electronics. It is very easy to work on, most things you can do yourself and learn about it as you go. Plus, you can go offroading, something you can't do in a Honda sedan. It's easy to drive, has very few blindspots, and will put a smile on your face every time you drive it. You just have to be safe and smart. But that is true of any vehicle you may buy.
I'm with NCJeepin. Love my tj and also a little biased. LOL. All the points here are valid. I think it will be fine for you but you might want to keep in mind a couple of the points made here, as far as safety (keep stock until you know what you're doing) and the fact that you are going to want to learn to do repairs yourself. And yes a honda would be faster but at 16 and just starting you should be taking it easy and learning control and discipline rather than worrying about driving fast, and really if you want speed you want to avoid jeeps altogether. Even if you make it a fast vehicle you can't drive it like one.
04-05-2013 10:25 PM
DJs97TJs If you really like it get it. You'll learn fast how to drive a jeep great. I have a 97 I picked up for 5grand. It's stick. I had never drove stick before so it was a new experience. But it wasn't that hard. Just make sure you get what you want in a jeep because hard doors and such are SO HARD TO FIND!
04-05-2013 09:07 PM
jp2611
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Originally Posted by Bad_Dog View Post
I laugh at the people on here who complain about the gas mileage. HOW many used vehicles out there, that's under 10k, has great gas mileage. A few... but not many.

Someone owning a Jeep can probably make some repairs to it. Anyone that's competent under the hood can work on a Jeep. You gotta learn at sometime and somewhere. My first was an early 80s Chevy truck.

Owning a Jeep is an experience. Not only will you enjoy it, but you will be able to make repairs on your own. There's little you can't do on your own, to a Jeep. Hell, they sell books on it.

At 16, I had no money and no job, but my first vehicle that I drove was an '84 Cadillac El Dorado, with a 350. It guzzled gas. But, it was built like a tank... and long. With an engine that size, I could also change my own fluids and do my own tuneups. Loved that car. That was, until it blew a rod and knocked a hole on the side of the block, size of your fist... but I digress.

As a little kid, my dad had an old CJ out back by the barn that didn't work. I sat in that Jeep for hours almost every day, pretending to be driving it, changing gears, playing with the switches at the top of the wind shield that controlled the wipers... Fun. That's where my love for a Jeep was born. Took me twenty years before I owned my first one. Now I'm on my second. To this day, I love driving my Jeep. Even when my old one had problems, ran rich, road rough because it needed a tune up and I didn't have time to do it... still loved every minute of it.


To me you are a JEEPER!!
04-05-2013 08:29 PM
Happy JK Have you bought anything yet? What did you buy?
04-05-2013 07:14 PM
Oldguy48
Rocky

I've had Jeeps in the family for decades. It's a cult vehicle ( that's a good thing).
They are everything you have read about them and more. Go for it .If you decide you don't like it and you haven't trashed it ,you won't loose any money.
04-05-2013 06:03 PM
Bad_Dog I laugh at the people on here who complain about the gas mileage. HOW many used vehicles out there, that's under 10k, has great gas mileage. A few... but not many.

Someone owning a Jeep can probably make some repairs to it. Anyone that's competent under the hood can work on a Jeep. You gotta learn at sometime and somewhere. My first was an early 80s Chevy truck.

Owning a Jeep is an experience. Not only will you enjoy it, but you will be able to make repairs on your own. There's little you can't do on your own, to a Jeep. Hell, they sell books on it.

At 16, I had no money and no job, but my first vehicle that I drove was an '84 Cadillac El Dorado, with a 350. It guzzled gas. But, it was built like a tank... and long. With an engine that size, I could also change my own fluids and do my own tuneups. Loved that car. That was, until it blew a rod and knocked a hole on the side of the block, size of your fist... but I digress.

As a little kid, my dad had an old CJ out back by the barn that didn't work. I sat in that Jeep for hours almost every day, pretending to be driving it, changing gears, playing with the switches at the top of the wind shield that controlled the wipers... Fun. That's where my love for a Jeep was born. Took me twenty years before I owned my first one. Now I'm on my second. To this day, I love driving my Jeep. Even when my old one had problems, ran rich, road rough because it needed a tune up and I didn't have time to do it... still loved every minute of it.
04-05-2013 03:31 PM
stuggin OP, just go for it. I'm 24 now and a proud new owner of a 2013 JKUR. When i was 16 my whip was a 1962 Plymouth I restored myself. It had many of the same features as 90's wranglers -- zero safety, a significant amount of body roll, road noise, broke down lots, weight, and terrible gas mileage. I'm still here with all my appendages and was still solvent enough after the gas and insurance costs to put myself through University in Civil Engineering as well. Just don't think buying a vehicle is gonna get you chicks, it's got far more to do with the dude behind the wheel haha.
04-05-2013 03:13 PM
Millertime78 You will get way more chicks with a Jeep than a Civic...

Why are we talking about insurance rates and MPGs? What is really important to a 16 year old?
04-05-2013 12:57 PM
pastime My '97 TJ has been a very reliable Jeep. I bought it new in late '96 and have 253K miles on it. Obviously over the 15 years we've had to replace parts ie. heater core, wiper motor, u-joints, radiator (2012), master break cylinder (2012), brakes (that's a given) power steering unit (under warranty), serpentine belt (that's another given) steering wheel damper (had the death wobble) of course 4 sets of tires (they can be expensive for Goodyear Wranglers).
Make sure whatever Wrangler you're thinking of buying, have it checked out by a mechanic. Buyers remorse is a terrible thing. I have two tops, but hardly ever put the soft top on, it's a pain and noisy. A lot of the noise comes from my husband who has to do the switch.

Advice: never, never let your buddies use your Jeep it's your baby, keep up with the oil changes, don't drive it like a car, because it's not (I did kill a cat once) poor kitty, I felt so bad. The farmer didn't care, he said he had a barn full. WHAT!

Try to get at a '97 or newer. Big changes were made that year besides the round headlights.

I hope you find your Jeep.
04-01-2013 12:52 AM
Girliegirl I just got my Jeep a 99 TJ Sahara paid under 10 for it. So you can Deff find them out there. As for insurance it's cheaper then my Honda civic. But it makes up for it in gas!
04-01-2013 12:14 AM
Slovpeter My parents, they wont let me get a job. Schoolwork and my future career is more important to them. However it leaves me limited to Jeep selection. TJ I heard are great. What are good price ranges to pay for a used one?
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