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04-27-2013 07:39 AM
fxsxux Doing the oil change today!! Thanks for all the great pointers!
04-14-2013 07:51 AM
wanderer1951
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When I get a round tuit
Aftermarket mod?

Get a Round Tuit
04-11-2013 07:23 AM
Timberline
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Originally Posted by Gorving3 View Post
Another suggestion for the "first timer" that I read someplace - be sure you can remove the Fill Cap on top of the engine before draining the oil. If you drain first then for some reason you can't remove the Fill Cap you have no way to get it to someone who can do it.
^^^ This!! I was just going to mention this as removing the fill cap helps the oil flow out better in regards to pressure flow. Just think of it like those old HI-C juices that came in the big tin can. It always poured out better when you popped open 2 holes in the top of the can, rather than one. Same applies here when the filler cap is off and the drain plug is removed.

Also make sure on your new oil filter to apply some fresh oil to the rubber/silicone gasket on top of the filter. This will create a better seal for it. I also pour a little of the new oil inside the new filter so it's about 1/4 full and let it absorb through the filter material. This will eliminate your filter trying to pump from a dry state when you first fire it up after the change.
04-11-2013 07:09 AM
homebrwd
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Originally Posted by fxsxux View Post
like the idea of this... just concerned about hitting it somehow and mistakenly draining my oil while driving... how long have you been using it? have you had any problems? Is it bulletproof?
I have installed so that the the valve trigger is up and couldn't be accidentally hit. I would recommend an engine skid though, not just because its a good upgrade but because the drain valve hangs a little lower and could catch on a rock.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
The Fumoto drain valve is a nice little upgrade, I installed one into my previous TJ & would now like another for my current TJ. It is well designed & won't accidentally let your oil drain out.

I just wish I had better access to my oil pan's drain bolt so draining it wouldn't make such a mess. I have a full-length engine skidplate installed & its drain hole opening isn't properly positioned. When I get a round tuit, I will cut that part out of the skidplate & weld it back in so it is better positioned.
I have the UCF skid, knowing I was going to get it I installed the fumoto first, made my change last weekend take all of ten minutes, 0 mess.
04-10-2013 10:35 PM
Wondertwin1 ^the fill cap on these will not open if the engine is hot. So don't freak out. But heat the engine up. Drain the oil. And just check the cap every 5 minutes or so until you can undo it.
04-10-2013 10:05 PM
Gorving3 Another suggestion for the "first timer" that I read someplace - be sure you can remove the Fill Cap on top of the engine before draining the oil. If you drain first then for some reason you can't remove the Fill Cap you have no way to get it to someone who can do it.
Just something I read and after changing oil for the last 61 years never really thought about that possibility but guess Murphy can catch up to anyone.
04-10-2013 09:36 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by paul65k View Post
Trust me Jerry.......I change the oil myself cuz I can't really afford it.

Here's a pic of our baby, based at SNA......I'll take you for a ride one of these days!!
I'm always available as a safety pilot for your IFR hood time currency flights. You can pick me up at CRQ anytime.
04-10-2013 09:26 PM
Bluedog225 Ymmv. Snug filter (by hand), snug plug (do not overtighten). If you have never over tightened a bolt (and stripped or broken it), you may want to find an old guy to walk you through it. May want to replace the washer after a few changes. If you can get this filter off, you will not need the filter tool in the future.
04-10-2013 08:53 PM
paul65k
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
A twin? As a lowly PP-ASEL, if I owned a twin I sure wouldn't complain about changing the oil in its engines.
Trust me Jerry.......I change the oil myself cuz I can't really afford it.

Here's a pic of our baby, based at SNA......I'll take you for a ride one of these days!!
04-10-2013 08:35 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by paul65k View Post
I have a similar set-up on the airplane and it makes changing the oil a breeze....looking to put something similar on my 06 LJ.

Sure helps on the plane when you are changing 10 Qts of oil (per side) plus filter.

I can get them both done in about an hour and a half, because I only have one drain bucket set-up.

Cheers!
A twin? As a lowly PP-ASEL, if I owned a twin I sure wouldn't complain about changing the oil in its engines.
04-10-2013 08:01 PM
paul65k I have a similar set-up on the airplane and it makes changing the oil a breeze....looking to put something similar on my 06 LJ.

Sure helps on the plane when you are changing 10 Qts of oil (per side) plus filter.

I can get them both done in about an hour and a half, because I only have one drain bucket set-up.

Cheers!
04-10-2013 04:48 PM
Jerry Bransford At least from that website, it doesn't look like Fram's will fit the Wrangler's oil pan.
04-10-2013 04:04 PM
Will335i
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Originally Posted by homebrwd View Post
Pick up one of these to replace your drain plug with, makes the next changes even easier and mess free.

Fumoto F-101N Engine Oil Drain Valve : Amazon.com : Automotive
Fram made a similar product that I used on my 94 Grand Cherokee. It had a hose that would attach and wouldn't drain without it and a dust cap for extra protection. I can't seem to find it anymore though so I doubt they still make it.

EDIT: Found it http://www.amazon.com/Fram-SD4-SureD.../dp/B000AMXT0Q
04-10-2013 03:55 PM
Jerry Bransford The Fumoto drain valve is a nice little upgrade, I installed one into my previous TJ & would now like another for my current TJ. It is well designed & won't accidentally let your oil drain out.

I just wish I had better access to my oil pan's drain bolt so draining it wouldn't make such a mess. I have a full-length engine skidplate installed & its drain hole opening isn't properly positioned. When I get a round tuit, I will cut that part out of the skidplate & weld it back in so it is better positioned.
04-10-2013 03:45 PM
fxsxux
Quote:
Originally Posted by homebrwd View Post
Pick up one of these to replace your drain plug with, makes the next changes even easier and mess free.

Fumoto F-101N Engine Oil Drain Valve : Amazon.com : Automotive
like the idea of this... just concerned about hitting it somehow and mistakenly draining my oil while driving... how long have you been using it? have you had any problems? Is it bulletproof?
04-10-2013 07:32 AM
homebrwd Pick up one of these to replace your drain plug with, makes the next changes even easier and mess free.

Fumoto F-101N Engine Oil Drain Valve : Amazon.com : Automotive
04-10-2013 07:25 AM
Atthehop
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Originally Posted by Jwolfer View Post
Where do you guys discard your old oil?
I bring mine to the town recycling center. They have a tank to pour it into.
04-10-2013 07:23 AM
Atthehop
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Originally Posted by Millertime78 View Post
Make sure you only use your fancy oil filter wrench to take the filter off!!! Hand tight back on.

First time I ever changed my own oil, I tightened the filter with the wrench as tight as I could...bad times!
All you need to do when installing a new oil filter is make it as tight as possible with your hand. No wrench required. Never had a problem with one after 40+ years of DIY.
04-10-2013 07:22 AM
Atthehop
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Originally Posted by fxsxux View Post
Drain plug... As tight as I can get it? Or can it be too tight and cause damage?
I just give mine a little snug once its hand tight. If you try to make it super tight you will most likely strip it and then your literally screwed.
04-10-2013 07:15 AM
fxsxux Drain plug... As tight as I can get it? Or can it be too tight and cause damage?
04-10-2013 01:03 AM
99tj707
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Originally Posted by Nanook View Post
Have a woman do it, read below.

WOMEN:

1. Pull up to Jiffy Lube or Valvoline Instant Oil Change when the mileage reaches 3,000 miles since the last oil change.

2. Drink a cup of coffee while they change the oil.

3. 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.

Cost: $29.99 oil change, $2.00 coffee. Total $32.00

MEN:

1. Wait until Saturday, drive to the auto parts store. Buy a case of oil, oil filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner (don't forget a little tree air freshener). Write a check to the auto parts store for approximately $50.

2. Stop by 7/11 on the way home, buy a case of beer. Write a check for $20.00.

3. Drive home with oil and beer.

4. Open beer, enjoy it.

5. Spend 30 minutes looking for the jack stands.

6. Find the jack stands (finally) under the kid's pedal car, jack the car up.

7. Open another beer, drink it.

8. Place drain pan under engine.

9. Look for 9/16" box end wrench for drain plug

10. Give up looking ten minutes later, find crescent wrench.

11. Unscrew drain plug.

12. Drop drain plug into pan of hot oil. Splash hot oil onto your hands and face in the process. Cuss and swear.

13. Crawl out from under car, wipe hot oil from hands and face. Throw some kitty litter on the spilled oil.

14. Open another beer while watching the last drops of oil drain.

15. Spend 30 minutes looking for the oil filter wrench.

16. Give up looking for oil filter wrench, crawl under car and hammer a flat-head screwdriver through the oil filter and twist it off.

17. Crawl out from under car, splashing hot oil everywhere from newly made holes in oil filter.

18. Cleverly hide used oil filter in trash to avoid those pesky environmental penalties. Open another beer.

19. Install new oil filter, making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to the gasket.

20. Pour the first quart of new oil into engine.

21. Oops! Now remember the drain plug (removed in step 11). It's still swimming in the now-warm oil in the drain pan.

22. Throw more kitty litter on the quart-sized oil puddle on the floor.

23. Open another beer and drink it.

24. Find drain plug with a minimum of spillage, hand-tighten in drain plug socket. Drink beer.

25. Crawl under car (getting oily kitty litter embedded in neck and arms). Tighten drain plug with crescent wrench, but this time, it's slippery. Bang your knuckles on the frame while tightening drain plug.

26. Throw crescent wrench across the garage in anger. Throw a fit because crescent wrench hits bowling trophy (which wife wouldn't let stay in the house).

27. Open another beer and drink it.

28. Clean hands, bandaging where needed to stop blood flow.

29. Pour in five quarts of fresh oil.

30. Lower car from jack stands. Smile at your handiwork. Open another beer and drink it.

31. Move car back to discover oil puddles you missed; apply more kitty litter to missed areas.

32. Test drive car to make sure oil doesn't leak.

33. Get pulled over a block from the house by local police, get arrested for DUI.

34. Call loving wife and bail bondsman.

35. Next day, get car out of impound yard.

Cost: $50 parts, $20 beer, Impound fee $75, Bail $1500, DUI $2500 minimum. Total $4145 (but you know the job was done right!)
Lmao you don't change you're oil do you?
04-09-2013 09:21 PM
krisbman
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanook View Post
Have a woman do it, read below.

WOMEN:

1. Pull up to Jiffy Lube or Valvoline Instant Oil Change when the mileage reaches 3,000 miles since the last oil change.

2. Drink a cup of coffee while they change the oil.

3. 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.

Cost: $29.99 oil change, $2.00 coffee. Total $32.00

MEN:

1. Wait until Saturday, drive to the auto parts store. Buy a case of oil, oil filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner (don't forget a little tree air freshener). Write a check to the auto parts store for approximately $50.

2. Stop by 7/11 on the way home, buy a case of beer. Write a check for $20.00.

3. Drive home with oil and beer.

4. Open beer, enjoy it.

5. Spend 30 minutes looking for the jack stands.

6. Find the jack stands (finally) under the kid's pedal car, jack the car up.

7. Open another beer, drink it.

8. Place drain pan under engine.

9. Look for 9/16" box end wrench for drain plug

10. Give up looking ten minutes later, find crescent wrench.

11. Unscrew drain plug.

12. Drop drain plug into pan of hot oil. Splash hot oil onto your hands and face in the process. Cuss and swear.

13. Crawl out from under car, wipe hot oil from hands and face. Throw some kitty litter on the spilled oil.

14. Open another beer while watching the last drops of oil drain.

15. Spend 30 minutes looking for the oil filter wrench.

16. Give up looking for oil filter wrench, crawl under car and hammer a flat-head screwdriver through the oil filter and twist it off.

17. Crawl out from under car, splashing hot oil everywhere from newly made holes in oil filter.

18. Cleverly hide used oil filter in trash to avoid those pesky environmental penalties. Open another beer.

19. Install new oil filter, making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to the gasket.

20. Pour the first quart of new oil into engine.

21. Oops! Now remember the drain plug (removed in step 11). It's still swimming in the now-warm oil in the drain pan.

22. Throw more kitty litter on the quart-sized oil puddle on the floor.

23. Open another beer and drink it.

24. Find drain plug with a minimum of spillage, hand-tighten in drain plug socket. Drink beer.

25. Crawl under car (getting oily kitty litter embedded in neck and arms). Tighten drain plug with crescent wrench, but this time, it's slippery. Bang your knuckles on the frame while tightening drain plug.

26. Throw crescent wrench across the garage in anger. Throw a fit because crescent wrench hits bowling trophy (which wife wouldn't let stay in the house).

27. Open another beer and drink it.

28. Clean hands, bandaging where needed to stop blood flow.

29. Pour in five quarts of fresh oil.

30. Lower car from jack stands. Smile at your handiwork. Open another beer and drink it.

31. Move car back to discover oil puddles you missed; apply more kitty litter to missed areas.

32. Test drive car to make sure oil doesn't leak.

33. Get pulled over a block from the house by local police, get arrested for DUI.

34. Call loving wife and bail bondsman.

35. Next day, get car out of impound yard.

Cost: $50 parts, $20 beer, Impound fee $75, Bail $1500, DUI $2500 minimum. Total $4145 (but you know the job was done right!)
And your point is?
04-09-2013 09:18 PM
TJDave Get an oil filter strap wrench. Works for all size filters and is perfect for limited space. Also great if some Jippy Nube guy over-tightened your filter previously. Great tool.

04-09-2013 09:11 PM
Wondertwin1 Only buy 5 quarts of oil and one quart of Lucas oil stabilizer. It is amazing stuff and I use it everywhere I can. It makes the oil stringy and sticky. So instead of just running down the metal. It sticks to it and will lubricate it better. As far as oil filters, if you have a very large pair of channel locks you can smash the end to square it off and try to turn it, or use a hammer and screwdriver to drive through, but be careful not to beat the hell out of it and break something, and make sure the screwdriver goes trough the end of the filter, not towards the engine. Drive and get it really nice and hot before you drain the oil.
04-09-2013 09:10 PM
Nanook Have a woman do it, read below.

WOMEN:

1. Pull up to Jiffy Lube or Valvoline Instant Oil Change when the mileage reaches 3,000 miles since the last oil change.

2. Drink a cup of coffee while they change the oil.

3. 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.

Cost: $29.99 oil change, $2.00 coffee. Total $32.00

MEN:

1. Wait until Saturday, drive to the auto parts store. Buy a case of oil, oil filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner (don't forget a little tree air freshener). Write a check to the auto parts store for approximately $50.

2. Stop by 7/11 on the way home, buy a case of beer. Write a check for $20.00.

3. Drive home with oil and beer.

4. Open beer, enjoy it.

5. Spend 30 minutes looking for the jack stands.

6. Find the jack stands (finally) under the kid's pedal car, jack the car up.

7. Open another beer, drink it.

8. Place drain pan under engine.

9. Look for 9/16" box end wrench for drain plug

10. Give up looking ten minutes later, find crescent wrench.

11. Unscrew drain plug.

12. Drop drain plug into pan of hot oil. Splash hot oil onto your hands and face in the process. Cuss and swear.

13. Crawl out from under car, wipe hot oil from hands and face. Throw some kitty litter on the spilled oil.

14. Open another beer while watching the last drops of oil drain.

15. Spend 30 minutes looking for the oil filter wrench.

16. Give up looking for oil filter wrench, crawl under car and hammer a flat-head screwdriver through the oil filter and twist it off.

17. Crawl out from under car, splashing hot oil everywhere from newly made holes in oil filter.

18. Cleverly hide used oil filter in trash to avoid those pesky environmental penalties. Open another beer.

19. Install new oil filter, making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to the gasket.

20. Pour the first quart of new oil into engine.

21. Oops! Now remember the drain plug (removed in step 11). It's still swimming in the now-warm oil in the drain pan.

22. Throw more kitty litter on the quart-sized oil puddle on the floor.

23. Open another beer and drink it.

24. Find drain plug with a minimum of spillage, hand-tighten in drain plug socket. Drink beer.

25. Crawl under car (getting oily kitty litter embedded in neck and arms). Tighten drain plug with crescent wrench, but this time, it's slippery. Bang your knuckles on the frame while tightening drain plug.

26. Throw crescent wrench across the garage in anger. Throw a fit because crescent wrench hits bowling trophy (which wife wouldn't let stay in the house).

27. Open another beer and drink it.

28. Clean hands, bandaging where needed to stop blood flow.

29. Pour in five quarts of fresh oil.

30. Lower car from jack stands. Smile at your handiwork. Open another beer and drink it.

31. Move car back to discover oil puddles you missed; apply more kitty litter to missed areas.

32. Test drive car to make sure oil doesn't leak.

33. Get pulled over a block from the house by local police, get arrested for DUI.

34. Call loving wife and bail bondsman.

35. Next day, get car out of impound yard.

Cost: $50 parts, $20 beer, Impound fee $75, Bail $1500, DUI $2500 minimum. Total $4145 (but you know the job was done right!)
04-09-2013 09:02 PM
99tj707
Quote:
Originally Posted by Millertime78 View Post
Make sure you only use your fancy oil filter wrench to take the filter off!!! Hand tight back on.

First time I ever changed my own oil, I tightened the filter with the wrench as tight as I could...bad times!
Or you could just jam a screwdriver through it lol.
04-09-2013 09:00 PM
Millertime78 Make sure you only use your fancy oil filter wrench to take the filter off!!! Hand tight back on.

First time I ever changed my own oil, I tightened the filter with the wrench as tight as I could...bad times!
04-09-2013 08:29 PM
KreepAlong ^yup, remember to wipe some oil on the black rubber gasket ring on the new filter. And check to be sure the one you removed still has it's gasket on.
04-09-2013 08:22 PM
cchartrand Great to see people still changing their own oil. Also great that the awesome people of WF came out to lend advise..... Without negative comments! Kudos to you guys.
04-09-2013 08:20 PM
Tdog02
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Originally Posted by Jwolfer View Post
Where do you guys discard your old oil?
Anyplace that changes oil will recycle it at no charge. (Fed law) Walmart, parts stores, Firestone, etc... Firestone took all my fluids including coolant. Just make sure to use containers that you can leave with them and you will be there 1 min or less. I save old milk jugs for recycling fluids.
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