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04-29-2013 10:44 AM
Moebius
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Originally Posted by All Terrain TJ View Post
A 1" BL is not necessarily required to do a TT.
This is a great point.
And you don't necessarily need a MML to do a tummy tuck either.
I have a 1.25" JKS BL and the Nth/AEV tummy tuck.
Rubi so no SYE kit needed and no real lift to speak of so no need for longer rear driveshaft.
I do have adjustable rear control arms and have corrected the pinion angle which I'd recommend to keep from burning through u-joints.

Bad pic, but you can see the profile of the tt etc
04-29-2013 07:02 AM
All Terrain JK A 1" BL is not necessarily required to do a TT. I have a UCF ultra high clearance skid and lowpro trans mount. My tcase clears the tub by a good 1.25". I did have the stock trans mount installed with 3/8" clearance but the drive shaft angle was to severe. One thing you don't read much about, if installing a TT with 4" SL, I would recommend an SS SYE. The extra DS length helps a lot with the extreme angle. I may do a 1" MML to further help the angle. At a glance it looks like I can do that without a BL. That being said, the Savvy gas tank skid does look good with an extra inch of departure angle which requires the BL. :P''
04-29-2013 02:54 AM
Tomdata Novak shift cable for sure when doing bl/mml. The stock shift linkage nightmare is nothing but problems and makes all kinds of noise when not aligned perfectly. Also (speaking from personal experience) the transfer case gets kicked out of 4Low all the time with a bl/mml combo and stock linkage. Which really sucks when you are climbing some hill and the transfer case gets kicked into neutral then you are left scrambling (while stuck on a hill) to get it back into 4low.

1.25" bl w 1" mml is perfect match. No messing with fan shroud, fan etc. I used M.O.R.E. bombproof 1" mml and zone 1.25" bl
Another added benefit of the M.O.R.E. bombproof mml is it really smoothed out engine vibrations

At least 1" bl required for all kinds of neat upgrades like tummy tucks, gas tank skids, etc.

Do it!!!
04-29-2013 12:48 AM
mudmagnet63 I did my 1.25 bl about a month ago with the 1" mm, only took a couple hours easy install and made the perfect height with the 3.5" lift
04-28-2013 11:35 PM
BLK00TJ
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Originally Posted by cballou View Post
Something that I have not been able to find, can you install a MML without a BL?
Yes. You'll have to move the fan shroud though.
04-28-2013 10:44 PM
cballou Something that I have not been able to find, can you install a MML without a BL?
04-15-2013 04:33 PM
Zevman Good post, my favorite color on a jeep.
04-15-2013 03:15 PM
SteelBlue44 I like my 1.25" BL from JKS and MML.Everybody can use an extra inch But in all seriousness it allowed me to fit my UCF ultra-high clearance tummy tuck, which is one of my favorite mods on my Jeep. the tummy tuck put my shifter/transmission right back to stock height and now when i throw it into 3rd gear the shifter doesnt hit my dash bezel. As for the transfer case shifter, i installed a Novak cable, which works wonders. going into 4low is never a problem anymore, just any easy pull.
Only downside to the BL is that one inch gap between the frame and tub, but it's nothing major.

Thats how she sits with 2.5" of lift and a 1" BL and 33s. The tummy tuck really allowed me to conquer trails i wasn't able to before
04-15-2013 02:33 PM
Zevman Thanks, working on my jeep seems to ease the mind
04-15-2013 09:21 AM
homebrwd
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Originally Posted by Zevman View Post
So with a 1.25 BL & 1" MML you should be ok without cutting the tub? I just installed new springs and shocks for 2.5" and bought the BL & MML at the same time, I didn't install it due to time and I wanted to know what I was up against. I have 31s on my 98 TJ 2.5 now, I wouldn't mind the extra 1.25 but I don't need it ether, just hate to have it sitting there. Can this be a 1 person Job?
No tub cutting, no fan shroud moving/ cutting. The BL could be done by 1 person, the MML helps to have the extra set of hands.
04-13-2013 06:00 PM
Zevman So with a 1.25 BL & 1" MML you should be ok without cutting the tub? I just installed new springs and shocks for 2.5" and bought the BL & MML at the same time, I didn't install it due to time and I wanted to know what I was up against. I have 31s on my 98 TJ 2.5 now, I wouldn't mind the extra 1.25 but I don't need it ether, just hate to have it sitting there. Can this be a 1 person Job?
04-12-2013 08:33 AM
homebrwd
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Originally Posted by Rob and TJ View Post
im slightly confused...and perhaps its my lack of bl knowledge..but when you raise the body ur moving it farther from the trans..transfer case ect ect...I know the gas tank down pipe gets extended and the shifter does as well..but what about the transfercase handle? and wouldn't lifting the motor technically move the trans and transfer? and does this not always change the angle of the driveshafts since the axles stay in the same place? Forgive me if I sound na´ve on this as I have never done a BL..but I am looking into one and want to have my bases covered!
Let me try and answer these for you.

Most people will recommend the Novak Cable conversion for the transfercase, but even without it the handle doesn't need adjusting. The handle doesnt connect directly to the transfercase like the transmission shifter does. It use a Z gate which just needs some adjusting (usually with new brackets) in order to keep it working smoothly). I recommend the Novak, I have it on my and it makes shifting into 4hi 4lo etc like butter and it never binds like the Z gate can.

Lifting the motor one in will essentialy pivot the drivetrain around the transmission mount on the transfercase skid. Basically it only moves the transmission and transfercase a small amount (less than an inch) This will also slightly change the output shaft angles on the transfercase but again its only slightly, sometimes its enough to fix vibrations though.

With a 1.25in BL the gas filler neck may or may not need extending, I haven't had any issues with mine at this point.

GL!
04-12-2013 01:01 AM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Rob and TJ View Post
im slightly confused...and perhaps its my lack of bl knowledge..but when you raise the body ur moving it farther from the trans..transfer case ect ect...I know the gas tank down pipe gets extended and the shifter does as well..but what about the transfercase handle? and wouldn't lifting the motor technically move the trans and transfer? and does this not always change the angle of the driveshafts since the axles stay in the same place? Forgive me if I sound na´ve on this as I have never done a BL..but I am looking into one and want to have my bases covered!
I once did a 2" BL on my Ford Ranger 4x4 and now a 1" BL on my Jeep TJ. The 2" BL needed a steering shaft extension, and the 1" does not. My Jeep required a transfer case extension bracket, but the stick shifter did not require an extension (like the 2" Performance Accessories BL did). My 1" Body lift did not come with many parts...which was a very good thing! I had the BL and the MML installed simultaneously.
04-12-2013 12:24 AM
Rob and TJ im slightly confused...and perhaps its my lack of bl knowledge..but when you raise the body ur moving it farther from the trans..transfer case ect ect...I know the gas tank down pipe gets extended and the shifter does as well..but what about the transfercase handle? and wouldn't lifting the motor technically move the trans and transfer? and does this not always change the angle of the driveshafts since the axles stay in the same place? Forgive me if I sound na´ve on this as I have never done a BL..but I am looking into one and want to have my bases covered!
04-11-2013 09:35 PM
honestabe86 Going to be doing both the motor mount lift and the body lift at one inch with my added 3 inches on my suspension lift plus flatline fender conversion to stuff some 35's under my TJ
04-11-2013 08:19 AM
homebrwd ^^^^ Only do that if you replace your transmission mounts with urethane. Combining the two can lead to excessive cabin vibration from the drivetrain. The brown dog rubber mounts I have work great with less added vibration.
04-10-2013 10:16 PM
TheDesertOutlaw Here is what my Motor Mount Lift looks like installed.



Do yourself a favor, and go with the Urethane Motor Mount Lift - such as the Currie brand MML.

MML Installation

04-10-2013 10:13 PM
TheDesertOutlaw
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
To me, spending more to replace the rubber body mounts just doesn't make sense since the OE rubber body mounts typically outlast our Jeeps.
My rubber body mounts lasted a mere 6 years underneath my '03 Rubicon. I upgraded to urethane and later to the Daystar BL.

You really can't see my Body Lift on the Jeep. Plus, I was able to get rid of the Transfer Case drop brackets.
04-10-2013 09:05 PM
gunslinger9155 Wow it's great to see there's still some interest in this thread. I had wrote it off for dead. Your right, I have read that the tummy tuck can be quite involved. That being said, it seems like a sensible modification in that it raises ground clearance without increasing the height of the center of gravity. These guys did a great job of helping me confirm my decision to go forward with the BL + MML. I'm not really looking for a bunch more overall height right now (running a fresh set of 31" BFG/ATs), rather trying to build a base upon which to keep as many options open as possible.
04-10-2013 10:54 AM
mgdmeyers This Thread is about 6 months old now, but i'm sure there are some people like me that peruse these things to the death...so I wanted to bring this back from the dead and add that I don't think anyone has mentioned the other implications of a tummy tuck...if that's the route you're going. In order to achieve the high clearance Tcase skid, you will need a Slip Yoke Elim+Extended drive shaft. The slip yoke Elim is a pretty simple purchase, but the extended drive shaft is custom made to the measurements you send to the manufacturer (such as Tom Woods).

Just a heads up for anyone looking into gaining some ground clearance with a BL as opposed to a Suspension lift.

Cheers.
10-26-2012 09:26 AM
homebrwd
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Originally Posted by kylekae View Post
Does a 1 bl add a noticeable amount of over all height
About an inch worth.
10-26-2012 09:06 AM
harleydragon
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Originally Posted by kylekae View Post
Does a 1 bl add a noticeable amount of over all height
1" plus whatever your bigger tires add..my wifes has a 3" and to me looks great..floorboards don't get hot at all without carpet..repositioning the radiator and notching out for the shifter is not a big job and the driveline stayed stock,thus no mods to them which adds to longevity and keeps it smooth
10-26-2012 09:04 AM
Jeembro
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Originally Posted by kylekae
Does a 1 bl add a noticeable amount of over all height
Ehhhh, you can tell its there if you look for it, compared to stock height
10-26-2012 08:03 AM
kylekae Does a 1 bl add a noticeable amount of over all height
10-19-2012 01:55 PM
TnDz TJ 1.25" BL is about perfect for a little added clearance for tires or tub clearance for TT and MML.... I have the Rough Country 1.25" BL and a UCF extra clearance skid.... the BL made it all the difference for me for tires on full stuff and for the TT. and you can't really tell it's there...

10-19-2012 01:34 PM
DevilDogDoc Correct!
10-19-2012 12:44 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by DevilDogDoc View Post
Nothing wrong with the factory rubber mounts, lots wrong with poly though. I have the Savvy AL body lift with the factory rubber and couldnt be happier.
Two common issues with poly mounts which is why OE automotive manufacturers don't use polyurethane mounts... it tends to squeak and it definitely passes vibrations more readily into the passenger compartment.
10-19-2012 12:38 PM
DevilDogDoc Nothing wrong with the factory rubber mounts, lots wrong with poly though. I have the Savvy AL body lift with the factory rubber and couldnt be happier.
10-19-2012 12:30 PM
Jerry Bransford In my personal opinion, it's REAL hard to beat the plain-Jane stupid-simple high quality low cost 1" body lift from Performance Accessories.

To me, spending more to replace the rubber body mounts just doesn't make sense since the OE rubber body mounts typically outlast our Jeeps. I helped a friend do a frame-up total restoration of his 1973 CJ5 Jeep and once we got the tub off, we both noticed how the rubber body mounts still looked nearly as good as the day they were installed.
10-19-2012 11:47 AM
gunslinger9155
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
Correct. Do a 1" body lift, high clearance t-case skid of your choice, and address the transfer case linkage with the Novak cable setup. Properly address the exhaust hanger @ the transmission mount bracket and the rear t-case output and you'll be a very, very happy camper. Both of my shifters feel better than they did from the factory, the 1" body lift is virtually invisible, and I have an extra 4.5" at the belly.
Any suggestions as to which brands/parts are best?
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