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04-06-2014 09:13 AM
IndianaBones I've always liked the LR defender troop seats. Have you checked those out?
04-05-2014 07:31 PM
raif281 update?
05-24-2013 09:41 PM
Squint I also remember seeing a single seat available at Quadratech or one of those companies for either a CJ or a YJ. You might want to check on it before you reinvent the wheel.
05-24-2013 09:39 PM
Squint I have thought for years about doing the same thing. It would be much better to have one seat instead a big double seat in the back. I will be interested to see what you come up with. I don't think bracketry would be hard to make or install, however I would worry about them being mounted securely to the tub in the event of a crash. I would look to see how thinck the tub is where they mounted the front and rear factory seats and make sure you have the same type of construction. Mabe you could even put lockable storage under it.
05-24-2013 08:42 PM
1979WagoneerLTD [QUOTE So to my last question, can I drill into the cross member above the gas tank?[/QUOTE]

I do not know, but will investigate this weekend and will post if its not followed-up on by another person.
05-24-2013 08:38 PM
mrobinso
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Originally Posted by Wesboy View Post
X2 - not heavy either.
Yeah I am a fool and figured out the tumble feature but I actually want the one seat. So to my last question, can I drill into the cross member above the gas tank?
05-24-2013 07:54 PM
1979WagoneerLTD
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Originally Posted by mrobinso View Post
I don't like my rear bench seat. It is heavy, it doesn't fold forward (because my Jeep is a 99 it was before they had the tumble option), it rarely gets used, and it takes up what little storage room there is in the back of the Jeep. I do like the utility of a vehicle with four seats. I have given this some thought, done a fair amount of research of anyone trying to do something comparable with their Jeep, and found little to no results to help me.

I would like to fabricate mounts for one or possibly two rear jump seats pulled from a Land Rover Discovery 1 in the back of my TJ. I question whether this is possible, but I am interested in giving it a shot.

The LR D1 seats can be had on eBay for anywhere between $75-$150 shipped with all hardware. On the D1 the body is designed to accommodate the seats. The TJ is not designed to accommodate any side facing seats. The wheel wells stick up too high to mount anything on top of them (the passenger's head would be above the roll cage).

What I am trying to figure out if I can do is design a mount that would enable me to mount the D1 seats on the wheel well so that they can be folded up most of the time and out of the way, but if I wanted someone to sit back there I could flip down the seat, and here is the key, and rotate the seat so it locks in a forward facing position. Unfortunately, I don't know how the D1 seats operate without having one to test.

I drew a mock up of how I would like to see this work, but I question whether it would even be possible based on the brackets of the D1 seats and the curvature of the wheel well. Even if I could design a bracket that would work, I question whether it could support the weight of your average adult.

What do you guys think? Any ideas? I am thinking of buying one of these seats just to check it out. Before you blast me for wasting my time - my Jeep is hobby/toy and this would be for fun for me.

Pic of diagram:

Pic of D1 seat:
I like it. You've inspired me
05-24-2013 07:00 PM
Wesboy
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Originally Posted by DJs97TJs View Post
I have a 97 and it has a tumble seat. Works just fine
X2 - not heavy either.
05-24-2013 12:51 PM
DJs97TJs
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Originally Posted by mrobinso View Post
I don't like my rear bench seat. It is heavy, it doesn't fold forward (because my Jeep is a 99 it was before they had the tumble option)
I have a 97 and it has a tumble seat. Works just fine
05-24-2013 09:40 AM
mrobinso Any thoughts on drilling through the part described above? Am I good?
05-21-2013 12:40 PM
mrobinso I evaluated using the Ford bench seat from the F-series trucks but decided to forego that in lieu of using a (don't laugh) Honda Odyssey middle seat from the 2011 model. The Honda seat is narrower, has a headrest, and is designed to clip/unclip from floor bolts for easy removal. I plan to use either door strikers bolted to the floor or u-bolts bolted through the floor to rely upon the built in locking mechanism designed into the base of the Honda seats so that the seat will be fully removable as it is designed to be.

Image of the seat.


Picture of the bottom of the seat where the clips are built in:


Picture of the door strikers I plan to bolt under the carpet to the tub to connect the seat:


This weekend I went to install everything and realized where I wanted to drill the tub to mount the rear two u-bolts was the frame's crossmember (I think). Am I okay to drill through that to mount these bolts on the underside of the Jeep with washers and nuts?

Thanks.
04-12-2013 09:07 AM
WingingIt74 YJ rear seats tumble... yours should also.
04-12-2013 09:06 AM
sparky There is not much room between the wheel wells. Sitting sideways will be uncomfortable, and no seat belt. Rear passengers have their feet down in the foot well. If you try a pivoting seat you are adding complexity and the additional brackets/mountings take up room.

Did you look for the release lever - left, rear, bottom.
04-12-2013 08:46 AM
DarrenT I like your idea, but if you want them forward facing, go for D2 seats, as any bracket fab will be much easier. D1 side seats were great, but I can't imagine they'd be too good outside of that environment. A D2 seat however was forward facing and a lot more practical. IIRC they folded to the side also, but faced forwards. Better to use the ones that were designed that way, than try to modify the ones from the disco 1.
I miss my Disco (UK 300 TDI)
04-12-2013 08:27 AM
mrobinso
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Originally Posted by rdock31 View Post
Nah I didn't really get that far with my brainstorming haha I don't have fab skills at all, so it was more of "has anyone done it before" kinda thing. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard if you set it straight forward, the hardest part would be designing around the wheel well.
I was looking around eBay for other jump seats and I am leaning a bit more towards simply purchasing a floor mounted Ford truck center seat (that would typically be installed as an option between the front driver and passenger seats on any of the F-series trucks) and just calling it a day. Not nearly as cool as my plan for the fold down and pivot jump seats, but at the same time it is a much more straightforward (and probably safer) alternative. I don't intend for any rear seat to be used more than on occasion. But mounting them to the floor is a better bet and the F-series jump seats can be had for only $125 - $175. Would be a lot more bulky though.
04-12-2013 08:04 AM
rdock31 Nah I didn't really get that far with my brainstorming haha I don't have fab skills at all, so it was more of "has anyone done it before" kinda thing. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard if you set it straight forward, the hardest part would be designing around the wheel well.
04-12-2013 07:50 AM
mrobinso Maybe I should consider S10 seats since they are lighter. Any ideas what type of brackets I would need to buy to sustain the weight of an adult? I am planning to design some type of support that can be inserted in the floor if the seats are being used.
04-11-2013 06:50 PM
rdock31 ^ I'm with the poster above, my 99 rear seat tumbles. And I was also thinking of replacing the rear seat.. I had the smaller S10 rear seat in mind. Never thought about a land rover seat. If you do make sure to post pics
04-11-2013 06:32 PM
brandon-99tj The back seat on my 99 folds forward really easy...just doesnt have the fancy handle on the seat. Mine has a little lever on the left side near the floor where the rear seat bracket is. I know thats not the only reason you wanna switch, im just curious why mine does and yours doesnt.

Btw this seems like a really good idea! You should do a build thread when you get it figured out
04-11-2013 04:56 PM
mrobinso
Land Rover Rear Jump Seats in Jeep TJ

I don't like my rear bench seat. It is heavy, it doesn't fold forward (because my Jeep is a 99 it was before they had the tumble option), it rarely gets used, and it takes up what little storage room there is in the back of the Jeep. I do like the utility of a vehicle with four seats. I have given this some thought, done a fair amount of research of anyone trying to do something comparable with their Jeep, and found little to no results to help me.

I would like to fabricate mounts for one or possibly two rear jump seats pulled from a Land Rover Discovery 1 in the back of my TJ. I question whether this is possible, but I am interested in giving it a shot.

The LR D1 seats can be had on eBay for anywhere between $75-$150 shipped with all hardware. On the D1 the body is designed to accommodate the seats. The TJ is not designed to accommodate any side facing seats. The wheel wells stick up too high to mount anything on top of them (the passenger's head would be above the roll cage).

What I am trying to figure out if I can do is design a mount that would enable me to mount the D1 seats on the wheel well so that they can be folded up most of the time and out of the way, but if I wanted someone to sit back there I could flip down the seat, and here is the key, and rotate the seat so it locks in a forward facing position. Unfortunately, I don't know how the D1 seats operate without having one to test.

I drew a mock up of how I would like to see this work, but I question whether it would even be possible based on the brackets of the D1 seats and the curvature of the wheel well. Even if I could design a bracket that would work, I question whether it could support the weight of your average adult.

What do you guys think? Any ideas? I am thinking of buying one of these seats just to check it out. Before you blast me for wasting my time - my Jeep is hobby/toy and this would be for fun for me.

Pic of diagram:


Pic of D1 seat:

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