|10-31-2013 02:16 PM|
|10-31-2013 12:35 PM|
If you want a great Leveling Kit, we do a TON of the TeraFlex ones:
TeraFlex JK Leveling Kit
|10-31-2013 11:03 AM|
|Matador||Yeah man, like Jason just said, you should be fine with 33's you can even take it off road but you just might rub on full articulation. I would hold off on shocks until you get the 2.5" lift. For not a leveling kit will give you more than enough clearance for the 33's and will ride fine around town.|
|10-31-2013 09:46 AM|
Spaste, do you offroad your JK? If not, you will be fine around town with the 33's. Then you can just save and do the lift once and not twice.
|10-30-2013 07:13 PM|
Great thread! So couple questions. I definitely fall into the lifting in steps category. I plan on starting with tires (good idea?) I want to run 33" Duratracs on Mickey Thompson Sidebiter's, which has a 4.5" backspacing. I hear all the time you can run 33" without a lift, but I don't know that I will like the look. So, I'm thinking of getting a 2" BB until I go the extra scratch for a full spring lift (that will be a 2.5". No need to go bigger for me).
So questions. Good tire wheel combo with proper backspacing for now and where I eventually want to get?
If I put the BB in will it negatively affect the stock ride? I have a '13 JKUR. And finally, do I want to add a shock now? Will the shock I add now to a BB still work with a 2.5" lift? Or am I better off using extensions on the factory shocks and getting what I want when I move to a big boy lift?
Thanks in advance.
|10-24-2013 03:11 PM|
|Matador||Agree. There is nothing wrong with starting off gradually, its what this entire thread is about, "Lifting in Steps". I'm big on gradual improvements overtime and carefully planning your course of upgrades based on your personal needs. Its really hard to make overall recommendations to people if you have no idea what they will be doing with their Jeep. The best thing to do is suggest that they hit the trails as-is, whatever you need will quickly become apparent to you.|
|10-24-2013 01:00 PM|
Normally I wouldn't want to clutter up a thread with back and forth personal convo but I'm hoping that the ideals and viewpoints we're sharing about my specific scenario might provoke additional thoughts or provide insight to others that read it.
I have done some minor wheeling and have been in some pretty slick mud a couple of times. I do agree that the capabilities of even a stock Jeep are pretty remarkable.
While I'm most likely going to do 33's, I'd really love to have a set of 35's on there especially for that extra 1.5" rise of the pumpkins. The main reason I don't want to do 35's though, is gearing and axles. I have the 3:21's and a Dana 30 on the front. I've heard mixed things about needing to re-gear or not with 35's when you start off with 3.21's and it's probably mostly a matter of preference - but it's something I don't want to have to do now unless I decide I want to get into some more serious trails and make it more purpose built for off road rather than on. As long as it's my daily driver, I'd like to keep a good blend and not have to change out everything all at once and be able to spread it out over time in a nice progressive step process.
As far as the axles, I'm sure the D30 would be "ok" with the type of off road I will normally find myself in, even if I had heavier 35's on them. Even still it would add more stress and if I did end up in a situation where there high potential for breaking something, I'd like to be in the best boat I can with the D30 front axle and I think with that 33" tires would be a little on the safer side. Agree or disagree?
|10-24-2013 10:59 AM|
Yeah Branden, the most common bit of advice you'll get from everyone is to just go out and hit a trail as is. You'll pick up on what exactly you'll need for your individual use. It makes no sense for you to invest money on a big lift if you could really benefit more on other things for your specific terrain.
Personally, the move to 35" tires for me has been the best mod to date, followed by my rock rails. The leveling kit was just a necessity for the 35's to clear properly.
|10-24-2013 10:12 AM|
Again, very sound advice and you've given me something to think about and maybe even test to see how I like it since leveling kits are so cheap. I'll follow up once I do something with a review on how it all worked out etc. Thanks again!
|10-21-2013 09:21 AM|
|10-20-2013 05:22 PM|
|Tat_up03||Thanks Braindead. All the information is something I can work with.|
|10-17-2013 05:46 PM|
|10-17-2013 05:39 PM|
Eventually I'll do more components and really do it the right way (CA's, TB's etc) and if I ever raise her higher I'll do drive shafts. For now just some more capability out in the wild will be good with what I do.
|10-16-2013 06:00 PM|
|Tat_up03||Also I want to throw it out there I'm not vehicle savvy.|
|10-16-2013 05:58 PM|
|Tat_up03||Hey Gents, I've had a 2007 Unlimited X for almost 2 years and haven't done anything due to being out of the country a lot. I just finished Herculining it and now I want to start a lift but I don't want to go crazy with it. Maybe only 2". If you guys could give me some tips on a budgeted way to do it. Just saying thank you ahead of time.|
|10-16-2013 05:35 PM|
Your chances of more height are with MC not TF.
Most coils AEV/MC/RK will give 1" or so more on a lightweight jeep. TF is a good choice if you want to stay around 2.5"
|10-16-2013 04:35 PM|
Thanks for starting this awesome thread! I have a 2013 JKU Sport S Freedom Edition that is stock. The only added weight is from the Rubi factory rock rails that come on the Freedom package, but they don’t add much. I plan on adding front/rear bumpers, winch and tire carrier but those things won't happen for another 2 years or so. What I DO plan on in the near future is a lift and swapping the 32" tires to a 33" tire mounted on my stock 17" wheels.
Prior to reading this thread today I have been leaning towards the TF 2.5” coil lift paired with Bilstein 5100's. With the knowledge learned in this thread I know that I’ll end up with more than 2.5” and will likely have to get a lot more parts and spend a lot more $$$. If I’m going to spend that money, I’d also think about going with MC’s 2.5” with OME shocks.
But because I’m on a budget, if I spend more now it will further delay bumpers etc so it got me thinking: What if I order the TF 2.5 coil lift for the 2 door to put on my 4 door? Do you that the increased weight of the 4 door on a 2 door system would in essence be like having a loaded 4 door with the 4 door coil kit and yield the proper 2.5” lift?
I realize that when I DO add bumpers etc., that would make that 2 door lift less than 2” but at that point I could buy just the coils made for the 4 door and swap them out, leaving the rest of the components in place and still maintain the 2.5” of lift..I think.. Thoughts?
|09-10-2013 02:43 PM|
Thanks BB1857 and Matador,
First, "HD" is my wording not the sellers and therefore not accurate. I would only do this upgrade if the JDU springs are heavier duty than my current springs. I suspect the shocks/springs are the Sport version but essentially brand new. Still trying to confirm the spring spec's and shock type with the seller.
If the springs are heavier I'm tempted to do what you suggest and put in the springs, shocks and TF leveling kit as a first improvement. It would certainly give me an advantage over what I have for not much money.
I'm also leaning towards doing the work myself (perhaps with help from a more experienced buddy). I have the basic sockets, wrench set, torque wrench, etc but no air tools, jacks or lift. I could use my hand tools and buy or borrow the lifts & jacks.
I've also ordered some TF armored differential covers as the front differential is leaking slightly and need to install those soon. Rear 44 should be easy to access but I could use the lift/jacks to better access the top bolts on the Front 30.
|09-10-2013 09:20 AM|
Since this seems like a weekend mountain rig, my advice is to source a set of JKU Rubicon springs and shock, then couple it with a Teraflex leveling kit. This will give you more than enough clearance for 33's and to get you through dirt roads with occasional run-off.
You can run that set up until the spring where you can then get a rancho kit if you want. You really won't gain much clearance from upgrading to the 2" kit, if you go with the teraflex option I just mentioned, you'll just get a better shock and a solid taller spring. If you do that, you can always turn around and sell the leveling kit and Rubicon suspension for almost what you paid for it, if you pick up a good spring rate, its a decent setup and retains its value.
In terms of doing the work, I always opt doing it yourself whenever possible. Invest in a good jack and stands along with some basic tools. A leveling kit isn't complicated and generally straight forward. It only starts getting tricky when your replacing track bars and control arms etc. Another benefit, other than pride, is that you get a hands-on experience of how everything works and can troubleshoot problems easier if your on the trail alone and something goes wrong.
|09-10-2013 07:14 AM|
I replaced the shocks and springs on our rig and had never done anything like that in my life. It took a little while but in the end is not a difficult job so i would recommend doing it yourself if your are mechanically inclined and have tools!
|09-10-2013 01:04 AM|
Matador & others,
First thanks for the great information for a newbie like myself. I've spent a bunch of time looking at the (often conflicting) advice on this and other forums. Talked to the local 4 Wheel Parts shop who only wanted to sell me RE and an independent who only wanted to sell me RC. This post helped direct my research and focus my options.
I just bought a 2007 JK Sport with manual transmission, LS, 3.21 gearing and hardtop. It also has Rubi take off 17" wheels with 255/75/R17's but is otherwise stock. Normal Duty shocks are relatively light (14/15 Front & 54 Back). Looking to take it up to the Sierra's as a second car at our vacation home. Primary uses will be driving around town and spending time on the local dirt roads which can be pretty washboard, badly washed out and/or rocky. So some extra lift and better suspension will help (also the original shocks are getting tired). Planning to take some off-road driving classes in late winter / early spring and get more aggressive over time but don't want to turn it into a rock crawler. Will likely replace the 32" tires with 33" tires when they wear out down the road.
After reading this thread I'd pretty much decided on the Rancho 2" Sport lift but was going to wait until spring in hopes of another promotion (dirt roads get snowed in for the winter anyway). But now I have the opportunity to purchase some JKU take off HD shocks & springs for cheap. So I'm now thinking of putting those on with a TF or RK leveling kit to start. Doesn't seem I can go too far wrong with that option even if I decide to do more late. Any thoughts or recommendations on these two or other options given my intended use?
Also, debating if I should have my local mechanic do the work or try it myself? Would like to do the work myself but have never done anything like this before and have a fear of taking things apart and not getting them back together again or not having the right tools. Would need to buy the jacks, etc which would cost me almost as much as the mechanic's labor but then I would have them for the future.
Any thoughts or recommendations would be much appreciated. Thanks
|08-08-2013 03:05 PM|
|roughrubi2010||Alright, I have a 2010 jk rubi 4 door and want a 2.5" lift. Which one will keep it as close to the stock driving style/feel as possible?|
|08-07-2013 08:35 PM|
does anyone know if you can add leveling lit to 4'' lift without new driveshaft on 2010 4 door sahara
|08-03-2013 05:14 PM|
|08-03-2013 05:14 PM|
|chisox711||Lastly any thoughts comparing shock extensions vs the Teraflex shocks? I have a '13 JKUR.|
|08-03-2013 05:11 PM|
|08-03-2013 05:11 PM|
Okay I have read every reply in this thread and still confused. I went to my local shop today and came away more confused. Here is what I want to do. Add a small 2.5" lift and Duratrac 315's. The shop pushed a Rough County 3.5 lift hard and said he didn't know if a 2.5" lift would fit those tires. Everything I've read says it should.
He then said if I only want to go 2.5" I should just go with a budget boost. He said comparing a Teraflex 2.5 kit to their budget boost the only difference is the coils. He then said if I am doing mostly in town I might as well skip the coils, I won't need them.
So....What is everyone's opinion on a budget boost compared to the regular lift. After reading all of these posts I lean towards Teraflex but he said no difference between that and the Rough Country at that height besides money.
I mall crawl 99% of the time. I like the look of the 315's and may get into more off roading once the newness of the Jeep wears off and I stop being scared to scratch it.
Budget is important, but mostly I want to make sure to do things right so I don't mind paying a little more to do that. Thanks in advance.
|08-03-2013 04:17 PM|
Did you read the thread?
|08-03-2013 04:17 PM|
So what would be the ultimate Overland/Expedition lift at 3.5"
Take money out of the equation for a minute.
3.5" lift overall gained
Run 35" tires
Would like to run stock or close to stock rim BS
|08-03-2013 03:59 PM|
|wmtmac||I think I would like to lift my JKU 2 inches using a kit with spacers... But I want to preserve the factory rake, so I don't want to use a leveling kit. Any recos?|
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