|04-22-2013 07:45 AM|
|04-16-2013 11:11 PM|
|04-16-2013 10:45 PM|
Which 6.0 do you have? The LQ9 is rated at 345 bhp and 380ish torque...that's probably the one you have. Even the 5.3's have more than 300 bhp since the mid 2000's when GM put in electric fans...I think it went to 315? Not sure..
|04-16-2013 07:54 PM|
|Ogre22||I run 4:56 and 35in tires and I have plenty of power.|
|04-16-2013 07:48 PM|
|Jerry Bransford||Ha, he was just expressing a little envy over your 300hp... not that he didn't believe you.|
|04-16-2013 05:05 PM|
|04-16-2013 04:15 PM|
BTW 300hp was just hurtful. LOL
|04-16-2013 04:13 PM|
I am in the same boat as you. I was running 33s on 3.07s. I chose to do alot at once and I just finished my ford 8.8 build. The Jeep is in the shop having Tru Trac's and 4.56s installed right now. Cannot wait to get her back and see what a difference it makes.
BTW I also did all 8 control arms, high clearance skid, SYE, and TW driveshaft at the same time. The Jeep has been down for about 3 weeks now. Super excited.
|04-16-2013 04:06 PM|
|04-16-2013 04:03 PM|
|Jad4271||I have 411's in my 9 inch rear and my motor hummms along at 2000 rpm at 70 mph with 33's. Thats good for me but keep in mind I did a 6.0 LS conversion so powers not an issue. Only gets 13 mpg BTW Jeeps are like bricks with wheels so I guess thats expected.|
|04-16-2013 03:57 PM|
|04-16-2013 03:57 PM|
Well, I'm retarded then. I should have known that....
"Sigh", I'll just have to continue to save up some cash then.
|04-16-2013 03:54 PM|
What you need is a stronger axle shaft kit designed for your rear Dana 35. They are available in hardened 27 spline alloy shafts that are roughly equivilent in strength to a Dana 44's OE carbon steel 30 spline shafts. Or a Super 35 kit which replaces the carrier with a full case locker and upgrades the shafts from 27 to 30 spline alloy shafts that are stronger than the Dana 44's OE carbon steel 30 spline shafts.
There are a few manufacturers out there but since Superior Axle's recent near total shutdown, that leaves manufacturers like Ten Factory and Alloy USA to fill in the gaps. G2 is one of the later manufacturers to enter the axle shaft marketplace but I am not aware of a Dana 35 axle product from them yet.
|04-16-2013 03:36 PM|
I have a '05 Sport auto, with a D35, stock gears, running 33's.
Instead of buying a D44 axle with lockers, you mean I can just get this: G2 Axle and Gear Part 96-2033-1-30 - Dana 44 Rear Axle Kit , and then regear, and be G2G with 35's?
|04-16-2013 02:51 PM|
|04-16-2013 02:11 PM|
|JeepersCreep3rs||The next time I get tires I want to get 35x12.5s so it's in the near future.|
|04-16-2013 02:09 PM|
|JeepersCreep3rs||Well in the future I'm looking to get 35x12.5s. They are also the stock axles from 2002 and don't look that nice. I will take some pics in a bit to let you see what they look like.|
|04-16-2013 12:51 PM|
|Jerry Bransford||I wouldn't spend $3K to get Rubicon axles just to run 33" tires. I'd just upgrade your rear axle with stronger alloy axle shafts like from G2 & regear to 4.56.|
|04-16-2013 12:42 PM|
|JeepersCreep3rs||It's the stock axle that comes on the X, which also has the stock 3.07. Should I go after a local shops offer that has a used rubicon driveline for 3k?|
|04-16-2013 12:28 PM|
|Jerry Bransford||It's not that the front Dana 30 is technically stronger than the rear Dana 35 is, it's that the front axle seldom sees more than about 50% of the stress/load that the rear axle sees on a regular basis.|
|04-16-2013 10:38 AM|
Jerry knows more about this than me, so what say you Jerry??????
|04-16-2013 10:24 AM|
The problem is that for 33" tires, it's not enough gear & the engine won't be operating efficiently which is why I took some extra time above to go into that. 4.56 is the correct/most efficient ratio for 33" tires and 4.88 is the correct/most efficient ratio for 35" tires... 4.11 wouldn't be the right choice for either size tire with your 4.0L engine and 5-speed transmission. Could 4.11 be used? Of course but it wouldn't be as good of a choice.
|04-16-2013 07:12 AM|
|JeepersCreep3rs||I've been told locally to go to 4.11s for better mpg, and if I want 35x12.5s in the future. Is this true? What else could I do for better mpg, while maintaining off road abilities.|
|04-16-2013 12:59 AM|
3.73 is an inefficient ratio for 33" tires, the engine will often lug at the lower RPMs you'll get with larger diameter tires like that when driving at a particular speed like 65 mph. Which is why with bigger diameter tires, we go to lower axle ratios to raise the engine RPMs back up to where they should be... in the engine's more efficient power band. And in ratio-speak, 4.56 is a lower ratio than 3.73 is.
So that just means that lower RPMs don't necessarily mean better MPG and higher RPMs don't necessarily mean worse MPG. For 33" tires, I wouldn't expect your mpg to decrease by regearing from 3.73 to 4.56. It might even improve slightly because the engine will be running more efficiently which can mean better mpg. Which is why all cars & Jeeps don't come with crazy high axle ratios like 3.07 to produce the lowest possible RPMs. Where the best possible mpg is concerned, too low of an RPM is just as bad as too high of an RPM. Whatever ratio allows the engine to run most efficiently will produce the best possible MPG.
|04-15-2013 11:33 PM|
|thgr8alex||How drastically does this change mpg? I have 33s with 3.73 gearing and get 14-16 mpg city. Not bad but i cant go above about 60 or 65. I guess thats really all it would change is top speed? Maybe hwy mpg?|
|04-15-2013 11:26 PM|
|Jerry Bransford||It'd be a lot more cost effective to just regear both axles to 4.56 than to replace the axles. Typical costs to regear a pair of axles including all parts & labor would be somewhere close to $1300-1400. I dickered & got my last regearing done for <$1200. 4.56 would be ideal for the 33" tire, 5-speed, and 4.0L engine combination.|
|04-15-2013 11:24 PM|
|JeepersCreep3rs||myjeeptj.com » Blog Archive » Gear ratio to tire size chart|
|04-15-2013 11:21 PM|
|JeepersCreep3rs||Also if an axle swap whats the better company to go with?|
|04-15-2013 11:20 PM|
I have 33x10.5 Terra Grapplers and my front diff says i have a 3.07(I have an 02 wrangler x, 5-speed). I get about 12-13 mpg and if im towing i get like 9-10. What gears should i go to? Keep in mind it has about 136,000 on it. Would it be better to do a whole axle swap with lockers or just do the gearing? What would be needed?
P.s- when on the interstate if i shift out of 4th I just slow down and dont stay at a constant speed so usually stay at 70mph(stock settings) in 4th.