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09-21-2013 09:55 PM
DarthGromit Ive got a black 2 door, ran all summer with no carpet or floor mats at all just to see what it would be like; it wasn't any noisier to me and the only time i felt any heat was when i was wearing flip flops, and even then it was livable.
Just finished up putting in the Duplicolor Bed Armor. I wanted to get something i could go look at and talk to a guy instead of buying online on faith, and Napa sells the Duplicolor. I wanted something grippy, so i still hopefully wont need floor mats at all, and i liked the texture of the Duplicolor. Ive heard longevity isn't great, but we'll see.
Im also in the camp that clean jeeps are unnatural, so if the duplicolor isn't easy to clean, you wont hear me crying about it
08-07-2013 01:21 PM
erickpl
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Well that sucks for you. I get my Line-X for free or damn near free

The satisfaction is great!
Yes, I would go with Line-X too, IF I got it 'for free or damn near free'. But I'm not an employee or know somebody with a hookup. Regular prices, Line-X is just too damned expensive for what you're getting.

My TJ is a soft top, has a loud-azz engine, mud terrains, and without doors and/or windows and/or a top most of the year. Do you REALLY think sound deadening provided by Line-X or Monstaliner is worth anything? Really?

My floor boards had been getting scratched by the underside of the carpet (dirt, rocks, aging polyester threads, etc) and I did NOT want that to rust out. Combine that with going into a few mud holes here in Alabama that were a TAD deeper than I expected (this mud literally sucks you in when you get in it), and my carpet had to go.

I have 2 kids and a wife to provide for, dealing with medical issues for my wife, and working a full time job. My Jeep money is limited so I have to the best with what I have available (and why I haven't finished a belly up or cage yet).

The reality is Monstaliner is a better bang for the buck that Line-X is (at regular retail pricing). Price-wise Monstaliner compares to Herculiner, Rhino, and UPOL, but I preferred the texture of the Monstaliner. I have no vested interest in the company other than to see it survive and do well in the market so us Jeepers have options. Is your interest in Line-X purely for an option or do you have a vested interest?
08-06-2013 11:44 AM
bighamms what's up dudes... guess what came in the mail yesterday...MONSTALINER. i'm pretty excited about getting this knocked out.

So here's my question. For those of you who have lined your tubs, did you completely paint over all of the hardware that fastens the gearbox plate (probably not called a gearbox plate, but the piece of sheet metal that surrounds the gear shift) to the tub. My only concern is that it seems like i may need access to this some day and trying to get to those monstalined screws would be a real booger.

thoughts (or better yet, some close up pics). Will be lining the tub this Sunday
08-06-2013 10:45 AM
CommissionerGordon It's not hard at all and is very much beneficial in my opinion. Just be sure to prep a while lot and take your time.
08-06-2013 10:09 AM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by T2000J View Post

Now that's funny they seen you coming . You just bought there supply for the next few jobs . I got $140 into monster liner and the Satisfaction that I did it is priceless .
I did cure mine a little faster I put her in the bake booth at the shop .
Well that sucks for you. I get my Line-X for free or damn near free

The satisfaction is great!
08-06-2013 09:31 AM
T2000J
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post

Let me think about this... Monstaliner is $100 for a gallon of material. That doesen't sound too bad when you say it does your whole tub. How thick is your application?

Now we go to Line-X. That tub of yours takes around 12 gallons of material and is minimum 1/8" thick all around. It is sprayed hot and dries instantly so you don't have any running and you get a smooth even coat around all the humps and bumps. And yes, Line-X is a sound deadner.

Just something for everyone who thinks that 1 gallon of DIY liner for $100 is a fantastic deal. You get what you pay for.
Now that's funny they seen you coming . You just bought there supply for the next few jobs . I got $140 into monster liner and the Satisfaction that I did it is priceless .
I did cure mine a little faster I put her in the bake booth at the shop .
08-06-2013 09:12 AM
thgr8alex 12 gallons of monstaliner would be like an inch thick hahah
08-06-2013 09:11 AM
rkwfxd It would be interesting to know what planet you would have to live on for it to take 12 gallons to coat the inside of a jeep tub. I'll buy 1.2 gallons but not 12. I have used Monstaliner and I have been happy with it.
08-06-2013 09:04 AM
bgall Line-x is also VERY heavy. I would be interested to know how much weight 12 gallons adds to the vehicle.
08-06-2013 09:01 AM
thgr8alex
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Originally Posted by EnglishBulldog1 View Post
Time for me to pull the trigger and line the tub. Will 1 gallon be enough for my TJ. Just the tub.
Yes
08-06-2013 01:32 AM
EnglishBulldog1 Time for me to pull the trigger and line the tub. Will 1 gallon be enough for my TJ. Just the tub.
06-11-2013 01:05 AM
Walkingstick
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Originally Posted by wattapunk View Post

you have to keep in mind most here are diy-ers and find enjoyment in working on their jeeps. Not everyone can fork over that amount of $$ for line-x and even line-x is only as good as the person doing it. For a fraction of the cost and a weekend, you will not find anyone regretting monstalining their tubs and very little negative reviews on it.
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06-10-2013 09:10 PM
Wattapunk
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Let me think about this... Monstaliner is $100 for a gallon of material. That doesen't sound too bad when you say it does your whole tub. How thick is your application?

Now we go to Line-X. That tub of yours takes around 12 gallons of material and is minimum 1/8" thick all around. It is sprayed hot and dries instantly so you don't have any running and you get a smooth even coat around all the humps and bumps. And yes, Line-X is a sound deadner.

Just something for everyone who thinks that 1 gallon of DIY liner for $100 is a fantastic deal. You get what you pay for.
You have to keep in mind most here are DIY-ers and find enjoyment in working on their Jeeps. Not everyone can fork over that amount of $$ for Line-x and even Line-X is only as good as the person doing it. For a fraction of the cost and a weekend, you will not find anyone regretting Monstalining their tubs and very little negative reviews on it.
06-10-2013 08:53 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by erickpl View Post
The primary benefit has always been protecting the metal from wear/tear and potential rust. The texture thing is just a side benefit/problem.

To me anyway, Herculiner is the worst. It's glorified sandpaper adhered to the paint and will tear you UP if you're not careful.
Line-X is really nice and pretty smooth, but VERY costly to put in.
Monstaliner made the most sense to me - easy and inexpensive to put in. A bit over $100 for a gallon, which was MORE than enough for my TJ. The texture is very mild, like a topographical globe you'd have in elementary school. Not harsh, not too smooth, and cleans super easy.

If your carpet is in good shape, there is nothing that says you can't put your carpet back in over it. Mine was in TERRIBLE shape, so I opted to NOT reinstall it and pulling the carpet after every wheeling trip was a pain in the back side. Lining the tub also became about convenience of cleaning. As for noise, I guess it can be a bit louder, but in the summer, with no top/doors, and riding in 33's, it isn't going to be quiet anyway. In that configuration, heat isn't so much of an issue as I always drive with shoes or boots on.
Let me think about this... Monstaliner is $100 for a gallon of material. That doesen't sound too bad when you say it does your whole tub. How thick is your application?

Now we go to Line-X. That tub of yours takes around 12 gallons of material and is minimum 1/8" thick all around. It is sprayed hot and dries instantly so you don't have any running and you get a smooth even coat around all the humps and bumps. And yes, Line-X is a sound deadner.

Just something for everyone who thinks that 1 gallon of DIY liner for $100 is a fantastic deal. You get what you pay for.
06-10-2013 08:36 PM
Wattapunk Removing the rear metal drain plugs, monstalining the tub along with Bestop vinyl seat covers are the best things I've done to the Jeep to battle rain showers. With a safari top, I usually leave my doors off for an extended time even with rain showers in the forecast. Buy cheap rubber floor mats and leave the front/rear drain plugs out and it makes for an easy hose rinse/cleaning. I wouldn't even bother re-installing the carpet unless you plan on keeping the top up for an extended amount of time such as for winter use.
06-10-2013 04:52 PM
Walkingstick
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Originally Posted by eugenesonrisa View Post
Is there any reduction in heat off the floor? I removed my carpet and am looking for something to help with that as summer is coming and it gets pretty hot with sandals on.
You get used to it man. I have no ac and drive barefoot with a lined floor.
06-10-2013 02:45 PM
thgr8alex
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Originally Posted by WeekenderATX View Post
I've been trying to decide on this issue too, so I'm posting on a couple of threads to get everyone's input.
I'm window and doorless, with soft top, so I get a lot of rain inside.
I've got several cans of spray bedliner. I'm thinking I'll pull up carpet, clean the tub thoroughly, hand sanding any rust, prime what needs priming and bedline the foot wells, front and rear, then reinstall carpet, primarily for heat blockage. I figure this'll at least provide a barrier to keep the rain off the steel tub, until I can slosh the water down the drain holes.
Or leave the rear carpet out entirely, since there aren't drain holes back there?
Or toss the whole carpet and get rubber mats?
Or cut the carpet into custom fit mats?
Thoughts?
Id toss the carpet if you plan on getting rain in it cuz the carpet eill be nasty and start smelling and eventually mold. Toss carpet and get rubber mats and then plan on bedlining in the near future
06-10-2013 02:34 PM
WeekenderATX I've been trying to decide on this issue too, so I'm posting on a couple of threads to get everyone's input.
I'm window and doorless, with soft top, so I get a lot of rain inside.
I've got several cans of spray bedliner. I'm thinking I'll pull up carpet, clean the tub thoroughly, hand sanding any rust, prime what needs priming and bedline the foot wells, front and rear, then reinstall carpet, primarily for heat blockage. I figure this'll at least provide a barrier to keep the rain off the steel tub, until I can slosh the water down the drain holes.
Or leave the rear carpet out entirely, since there aren't drain holes back there?
Or toss the whole carpet and get rubber mats?
Or cut the carpet into custom fit mats?
Thoughts?
04-24-2013 08:56 PM
hazeguitar With three kids and two dogs bed lining the tub is amazing!
04-24-2013 05:14 PM
EnglishBulldog1 I am planing on bed lining the tub because I have major leak issues and am tired of ripping up carpet every time it rains. I also think that it will be easier to just blow the dog hair out then spent loads of time vacuuming.
04-24-2013 07:12 AM
SAABseanSCANIA Ok, I would go along with the protection thing... but it's only protection from a condition pulling the carpet caused. The base coatings applied from the factory are essentially protected from abrasion by the carpets. I get the potential rust thing, but the tub is coated on all interior surfaces, so oxidation shouldn't be an issue unless the paint is damaged (which I had a small amount of surface rust in the channels, so I prepped and painted it). Removing the carpet and scratching the hell out of it will damage it and you could possibly get rust if it's exposed to raw water; so yes, if you remove the carpet from the tub you want a tough coating to keep the factory paint (which resists corrosion, not the lining) intact. Coatings like Rhino do provide a good protective layer.

Truck beds are coated simply because the base coatings from the factory can't handle the abrasion of putting rough surfaces on them; because that would obviously remove the paint, and that's what we have pickups for...to haul things. The rough coatings and rubberized coatings like Rhino are merely protecting the surface that protects the metal. If you were to coat the bare metal unprepped with a substance like that you could be in for serious delamination of the coating and base material corrosion because all those coatings will retain moisture. With that being said, I recommend if anyone HAS exisiting rust or bare metal in the tub, apply an etching primer and at least a coat of paint to the bare area prior to coating the tub.

I get the impression that the OP has factory carpets installed right now; so without removing them, a coating has no net benefit at this time. The main benefit he'd have by pulling the carpets and lining would be the "hose-out" ability and being like everyone else with a pretty lined tub; it's that simple. I might mention that the only reason I'm lined is that I bought the current TJ with no carpets and the re-re scratched the sh1t out of the floors, causing some rust the in the channels; that and I'm cheap, so waiting for someone to give me a full set of carpets that were in great condition took some time. For me, the benefit was preventing abrasion because I got it with a bare tub. Many think a real offroad vehicle shouldn't have carpets, I guess I'm not one of them.

To the OP: again, it's personal preference. If you want to pull the carpets and have the "hose out" ability then do so and properly prep and coat the tub. If you want the LOOK of the lined tub, then that's OK too.
04-22-2013 10:24 AM
erickpl The primary benefit has always been protecting the metal from wear/tear and potential rust. The texture thing is just a side benefit/problem.

To me anyway, Herculiner is the worst. It's glorified sandpaper adhered to the paint and will tear you UP if you're not careful.
Line-X is really nice and pretty smooth, but VERY costly to put in.
Monstaliner made the most sense to me - easy and inexpensive to put in. A bit over $100 for a gallon, which was MORE than enough for my TJ. The texture is very mild, like a topographical globe you'd have in elementary school. Not harsh, not too smooth, and cleans super easy.

If your carpet is in good shape, there is nothing that says you can't put your carpet back in over it. Mine was in TERRIBLE shape, so I opted to NOT reinstall it and pulling the carpet after every wheeling trip was a pain in the back side. Lining the tub also became about convenience of cleaning. As for noise, I guess it can be a bit louder, but in the summer, with no top/doors, and riding in 33's, it isn't going to be quiet anyway. In that configuration, heat isn't so much of an issue as I always drive with shoes or boots on.
04-22-2013 08:26 AM
SAABseanSCANIA FWIW he asked what the bennies were to lining; not much. Actually, really none at all except your carpet not getting wet when you leave the top off at night and it rains (add hosing out to that too I guess). Just a nice coating that protects the tub.


I'm lined and I threw in newer carpet out of a rubicon. I *thought* it was colder in winter and a hell of a lot noiser with the top up (winter also); so in the carpets went. Plus, the carpets take what, 10 mins to fully remove? And, the mopar carpets are actually pretty good quality that look new with a quick pressure wash and sit in the sun. And, I hate the feel of the liner, I drive barefoot in the summer most of the time, so carpet it is....for me. It's all personal preference.
04-22-2013 07:25 AM
michiganhunter Ok thanks. Guess I will not do the duplicolor, I will check into the monstaliner then. I don't feel like ripping everything back out if it wears off kinda is the opposite of what I want it to do!
04-21-2013 10:59 PM
Jeepin9910
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Originally Posted by michiganhunter View Post
Lining the tub with either duplicolrs bedliner, herculiner, or the monsta liner,,, does it effect the way the seats or belts or consoles when they get reinstalled? I mean there has to be thickness there right? I just tore the carpet out of mine and removed everything to get ready to lin3 my tub I washed out tonight and letting it dry good, then I have to get to sanding.. I have not bought any lining stuff yet, but was leaning toward the duplicolors with kevlar, inoticed someone said it was garbage, does anyone have any input on it as to why? What would most use if they were doing it?
I used the duplicolor bed armor stuff and wasn't pleased at all. I did more than enough when prepping it and now about a year later pretty much all of its gone under my floor mats and I scraped off what hadn't peeled up on my flairs and used Rustoleum in the can and love it. One of these days when I get around to redoing the inside of the tub I'll be using monstaliner. Seen it in person and love the way it looks and it seems to last a lot longer.
04-21-2013 07:35 PM
michiganhunter Lining the tub with either duplicolrs bedliner, herculiner, or the monsta liner,,, does it effect the way the seats or belts or consoles when they get reinstalled? I mean there has to be thickness there right? I just tore the carpet out of mine and removed everything to get ready to lin3 my tub I washed out tonight and letting it dry good, then I have to get to sanding.. I have not bought any lining stuff yet, but was leaning toward the duplicolors with kevlar, inoticed someone said it was garbage, does anyone have any input on it as to why? What would most use if they were doing it?
04-21-2013 07:25 PM
madecant How many galons of liner did it take to do the tub?

Also Im not sure why some of these jeep owners are worried so much about how easy it is to clean, especialy those talking about waxing the tub. lining the tub is more for protection than anything else
04-19-2013 01:46 PM
viperx6x9x Mine is stock carpeting. Actually really good shape, kind of a shame to take it out and discard it. But yeah lots of wear on the paint underneath up front. Maybe PO just didn't have any rear seat passengers because the paint in back looks new still.

Another benefit I just thought about. currently I have to leave the carpet in the back so the dogs don't scratch up the paint. A lot harder for them to hurt bedliner. Plus they like to jump up on the wheel wells to look around so I gotta go pretty high with my bedliner when I do it.
04-19-2013 01:32 PM
erickpl
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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x View Post
Wow, a lot of argument going on here. I pulled my carpet up a while back just to see what I was in for as far as prep work. The paint was all scratched and worn up front anyway. Still looked good in the back though.

I figure the carpet can't stay during the summer, it will just get wet and mildew. And the paint already looks like crap. Might as well just line it to help prevent corrosion when water gets in it. I can always throw my floor mats back on top for heat insulation, and get one of those rear cargo liners for the dogs so they have a little cushioning from the rough hard surface.
My carpet was an aftermarket setup and never really sat right, plus the metal underneath was all messed up like you described. The scuffing process helps get rid of the surface rust that may have started (esp if you have a leak in the Jeep!). That is exactly why I decided to line the tub. I use mats too most of the time.
04-19-2013 01:30 PM
erickpl That part won't get too hot from any engine/exhaust stuff. But it can get warm due to sun. Shouldn't be an issue. Monstaliner even offers different colors, so if you wanted to do it closer to your Jeep's color, you can 'color match' a bit...
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