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Today 08:30 AM
lee indy
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Originally Posted by SteveC1187 View Post
+15 says it'll stick out 1.5" as opposed to the -10 only 2.5".... I'd think the +15 would be better ?
no. you want the 4.5 in back spacing. with the larger tire and the potential to move to an even bigger wider tire next time around.

you are only worrying about how far it sticks out. start remembering turning too. the tire has to not rub on a bunch of stuff.
Yesterday 05:09 PM
SteveC1187
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1quick1 View Post
Nice. I have the same wheels and tires but no spacers. Mine hit the air dam at full lock. I'm debating any number of fixes including 1'' spacers.
What's the back spacing on your rims ?
Yesterday 04:49 PM
1quick1
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2012Cosmos View Post
Additional pics from my prior postings....285/70/17 DTs on '13 Moab edition wheels, 1.5" Spidertrax. No rubbing.







Nice. I have the same wheels and tires but no spacers. Mine hit the air dam at full lock. I'm debating any number of fixes including 1'' spacers.

Yesterday 04:42 PM
SteveC1187
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Originally Posted by lee indy View Post
+15 is 5.4 in back spacing -10 is 4.4 in back spacing go for the -10. trust me on this one
+15 says it'll stick out 1.5" as opposed to the -10 only 2.5".... I'd think the +15 would be better ?
Yesterday 01:34 PM
crujones76 I just put new tires and wheels on my 2013 Sahara
General tire AT2, LT275/65/R18. (Great tires, no noise, and the ride is much smoother than the stock tires)
KMC XD Series Enduro 18 inch wheels
No modifications to the vehicle were needed.
Yesterday 10:29 AM
lee indy +15 is 5.4 in back spacing
-10 is 4.4 in back spacing

go for the -10. trust me on this one
07-27-2014 02:37 PM
SteveC1187 So I just read majority of this thread and my head is spinning.... But here's my combo that I'd like to run based off the thread so can some one tell me if it will work or what's wrong with it.... I'm looking at a tire of 285/75/17 with a rim of 17x8.5 with either a -10mm or a +15mm offset. Thanks and will be adding a leveling kit as well.
07-23-2014 08:22 AM
cicatriz63
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Originally Posted by lee indy View Post
5 to 4.5 is the backspacing you want to stay under the factory fender. Closer to 5 is best. Or stock with 1.5 spacers
Thanks for this. Anyone else have any pics of some wheels with 33s that don't stick out a ton from the fenders?
07-22-2014 08:39 AM
lee indy 5 to 4.5 is the backspacing you want to stay under the factory fender. Closer to 5 is best. Or stock with 1.5 spacers
07-22-2014 06:45 AM
cicatriz63
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Originally Posted by EFD330 View Post
If you go back to the first page or two in this thread it'll explain backspace tire size and all pertinent measurements so you can study up and order with confidence
I read through pretty much this entire thread and didn't see anything related to my question. I know what will fit, I just want to know what will fit AND not stick out 2 inches from the fenders which it looks like a majority of the 33s on aftermarket wheels stick out a ton.
07-19-2014 08:40 AM
EFD330 If you go back to the first page or two in this thread it'll explain backspace tire size and all pertinent measurements so you can study up and order with confidence
07-19-2014 08:20 AM
cicatriz63
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Originally Posted by 2012Cosmos View Post
I'm in PA....with the 1.5" Spidertrax spacers I stick out about 1/8 of an inch from fenders. So you can run a tire between stock and the 285/70s I have on, install 1.5" spacers (assuming with stock wheels here), and be within the fenders.
Thanks for that. So you're running stock wheels? I prefer not to run spacers so I guess the stock size would be the best bet if I stay with the stock wheels. If I go aftermarket I'm guessing something with 1.5inch less back spacing would work?
07-18-2014 09:34 PM
Number8
285/70/17 Duratracs

I had 285/70/17 Duratracs installed (today!) on AEV Savegres. Stock suspension. Granted the Savegres have 5.2" backspacing, but fit is all-around perfect. Just need a slight trim on the air dam (right side was fine but left side seemed to catch at full turn reverse with sway bar released). These photos are at full flex.
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07-18-2014 10:27 AM
Iffer Just purchased a 2014 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Unlimited, and I am wondering the same thing. I will not be getting a lift kit for another 5 years or so but at some point I will be putting in a leveling kit as I hate the way it leans forward But for now I'd like to get some bigger and wider tires on there. I don't want to have to do a whole lot so I just want to know what size would work well without rubbing or anything
07-17-2014 09:57 AM
2012Cosmos
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Originally Posted by cicatriz63 View Post
Anyone have an idea on this?
I'm in PA....with the 1.5" Spidertrax spacers I stick out about 1/8 of an inch from fenders. So you can run a tire between stock and the 285/70s I have on, install 1.5" spacers (assuming with stock wheels here), and be within the fenders.
07-17-2014 08:37 AM
cicatriz63
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Originally Posted by cicatriz63 View Post
Anyone have any info on tire size/wheel combo so that the tires DON'T stick out past the fenders? I'm in PA and I know certain places don't care about it but I would rather not risk it. Was debating on just getting the stock sized duratracs and keeping the stock wheels, or going to a 33 with aftermarket wheels.
Anyone have an idea on this?
07-15-2014 07:35 AM
jrtubb I had to add four washers on the right side to stop rubbing, two on the left did the trick, but I added the same on both sides to keep it the same. I also added some blue loctite to the bolt because I didn't want it backing out on my wife. There was still +1/2" thread going into the lower arm, these are pretty long bolts.
07-11-2014 09:43 AM
2012Cosmos Additional pics from my prior postings....285/70/17 DTs on '13 Moab edition wheels, 1.5" Spidertrax. No rubbing.







07-10-2014 05:43 PM
gtolbert09
2014 JKU Rubicon

I just replace my Stock Wheels and Tires with 17x8 Black Rock viper Wheels with a 4.5 inch BS and P285/70R17 Nitto Terra Grappler Tires. No Lift and No Rubbing

07-09-2014 10:32 PM
jrtubb 18 vs 17 or even 16 rims means for the same size tire diameter (33", 34", 35") you are reducing the sidewall which means less give for bumps.
07-09-2014 06:37 PM
Em52 Dam.... Just saw this (another great video from Teraflex) http://youtu.be/apJiCmyMPnM, can't remember if I did this or not! Almost due for my first tire rotation, will check this then.
07-09-2014 05:22 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
based on the op's (1st page) I can run 285/70/17 duratrecs on the 17" x 8 offset 10mm rim above (4.69 backspace if i did maths correctly) with a slight chance of rubbing only on full lock off road which can be easily overcome with a set of spidertraks spacers down the road.. is that correct? -GB
I'd say YES, but the chances of rubbing should be very very slight if any, imho.

Em ...
07-09-2014 05:20 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
Let me try this from a different angle. Can anyone advise me on a set up with these conditions; 2012 sahara 4 door unlimited (stock) for no rub on or off road as big as poss. stock suspension so spacers etc using one of these XD811 Rockstar II rims; 17" x 8 offset 10mm 17" x 8 offset 35mm 17" x 9 offset -12mm 18" x 9 offset 0mm 18" x 9 offset 30mm then that rim with what duratrec tire...what combo am I looking at? I am re-reading all the posts and am still thoroughly confused. sorry for the nooob hassle -GB
Go with 17x8 with +10 offset, this is the same as the ALL the AEV wheels. I got 17x8 with +6 offset on my Fuel Anza wheels as that was the closest I could get to +10.

This site helped me do compares and decide, it may help you http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

Em...
07-09-2014 12:09 PM
Golden Boy based on the op's (1st page)

I can run 285/70/17 duratrecs
on the 17" x 8 offset 10mm rim above (4.69 backspace if i did maths correctly)

with a slight chance of rubbing only on full lock off road which can be easily overcome with a set of spidertraks spacers down the road..

is that correct?

-GB
07-09-2014 11:10 AM
Golden Boy Let me try this from a different angle.
Can anyone advise me on a set up with these conditions;


2012 sahara 4 door unlimited (stock)
for no rub on or off road
as big as poss.
stock suspension
so spacers etc

using one of these XD811 Rockstar II rims;
17" x 8 offset 10mm
17" x 8 offset 35mm
17" x 9 offset -12mm
18" x 9 offset 0mm
18" x 9 offset 30mm

then that rim with what duratrec tire...what combo am I looking at?
I am re-reading all the posts and am still thoroughly confused.

sorry for the nooob hassle

-GB
07-09-2014 09:33 AM
Golden Boy I thought the stock sahara rims are 18?


18 x 7.5 according to the spec sheet I found online....
but yeah just looked at tire size and they 18" rims.

would going up to 18" x 9 create that big of a difference in ride?
07-09-2014 07:43 AM
jrtubb I'd listen to those with 18" too, they seem to have been there done that. I've read many times about ride being pretty harsh with bigger 18". If you are changing rims anyway I'd go with 16".
07-09-2014 07:40 AM
jrtubb
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
I did
still hard to know what im looking at...

hmmm

ok so the 30mm+ offset is closer to the stock rims offset is it not?
Wouldnt this be smarter to keep it closer to stock in the offset?

-j
I'm not sure what stock offset is, backspacing is more important to reduce if you are going for a bigger tire. Offset adds to this number some, but I'm not sure if it really matters. When I looked at getting rims, backspacing and lug spacing was all I looked at. In the end the 285 look good on my stock 17", the rubbing is pretty minor and only when I hold it hard on the stops left or right.
07-09-2014 05:06 AM
gecko4
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
Hey peeps

lotsa info here...

still confused, mbbe if i just ask...

Im getting a set of the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs

to put on a set of the XD811 Rockstar II 's
they offer to offsets;
18" x 9 offset-0mm
18" x 9 offset-30mm

I read the OP, but have a little tardo and still dont fully "get it".

I dont want to lift it, but dont fully understand the offset.

Need heps pairing up the rims with the tires.
want to go big with the Dura's, no lift, no rubbing.

the Goodyear people were pretty clueless, as was the dealership and Big-O tires.

any help would be awesome!!!
ty

-Golden Boy
I put 295/65/18 duratracs on 7031 procomp rims, and they fit with no lift. As I remember, I think they were 4.75 backspacing. You'd have to convert that to offset to compare with your figures. One word of caution, they road terrible. In that size, they are an e rated tire, with a short sidewall. I ran them at 28psi to get a decent ride. The Jeep still felt a little squirly. I'd go smaller rim, lighter tire by my experience.
07-08-2014 10:46 PM
Golden Boy I did
still hard to know what im looking at...

hmmm

ok so the 30mm+ offset is closer to the stock rims offset is it not?
Wouldnt this be smarter to keep it closer to stock in the offset?

-j
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