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Today 09:47 AM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by JoeBot13 View Post
Heck yeah that's awesome ... And dedication for staying up til 4am! Do 35s cause problems? Depends on who you ask... Some people say you can get away with 35s for a long time ... Some people say you'll snap an axle the first time out My 2 cents; this is entirely subjectable: If you plan on upgrading tires look at upgrading ball joints. The higher ratio you have (lower the number) the more the engine will have to work to push those 35s. 3.8 with auto is the weakest combo power wise. If you have 3.21 or 3.73 you may not be seeing O/D or 5th gear for a while, but who cares about those anyways. The lowest you can go with a D30 is 4.88 and there is a carrier break at 3.73. When it's comes a D30 the 35s on JKU, this is a double edged sword. The JKs hp D30 is stronger than older D30s, but it still has it's weaknesses. The taller tires improve clearance and breakover but the added unsprung weight and tire radius puts stress on the axle tubes, c gussets, and shafts. You may not break anything, but the possibility increases the bigger you go. The heavier you wheel, the more your risk of breakage increases. But that is true no matter if you drive, a baja bug or a tank. If you plan on keeping your D30 for a while you can sleeve, gusset, truss and get chromo shafts (more splines/more strength) to make a so called super 30. Believe it or not lockers can play a factor in breakage on weaker axles and is a double edged sword again. Locked axles may build up axle wrap, and axle wrap is your enemy. If you have weak shafts and lockers, torque can build up if the wheels can't spin and will have to release the energy somewhere. Usually with a snap. Conversely lockers limit wheel spin, on open axles the torque is transferred to the free wheel, so if you have a lot of wheel spin on a wheel and that wheel contacts something solid, all that energy will be transferred and snap! A lot of these issues can be avoided by smart wheeling. Easy on the skinny pedal and don't bite off more than you can chew until you learn the limits of your rig. That case 35s can last a while before causing problems. Thanks for reading this far... And if one thing I say is true without argument, it's: If you want 35s, that is the only justification you need to get them.
That's good advise from Joe. Human thrower is yours a rubicon? Only asking because the spare tire. The front D44 can handle 35s, some people have broken stock shafts when they were going through some extremely technical sections. They actually use the same size axle joints as the d30.

Normally the larger the tire and less back spacing plays hell on the flanges of JK rear axles. Not many people warranty the flanges either. I believe it's on 10 factory and RCV that do, I could be wrong though.
Today 09:16 AM
JoeBot13
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Originally Posted by calijudo View Post
Okay its 4am and i'm finally done with the install. I recieved my lift kit from ups at about 6pm last night. I skipped dinner and got super dirty. But I'm happy with my lift. Now I just need my front bumper to arrive. Next step is to save up for tires and gears. I like the idea of 33's without regearing it. But 35's with gears sounds awesome. What do you guys think? Do 35's cause problems?
Heck yeah that's awesome ... And dedication for staying up til 4am!

Do 35s cause problems? Depends on who you ask...

Some people say you can get away with 35s for a long time ... Some people say you'll snap an axle the first time out

My 2 cents; this is entirely subjectable:

If you plan on upgrading tires look at upgrading ball joints.

The higher ratio you have (lower the number) the more the engine will have to work to push those 35s. 3.8 with auto is the weakest combo power wise. If you have 3.21 or 3.73 you may not be seeing O/D or 5th gear for a while, but who cares about those anyways. The lowest you can go with a D30 is 4.88 and there is a carrier break at 3.73.

When it's comes a D30 the 35s on JKU, this is a double edged sword. The JKs hp D30 is stronger than older D30s, but it still has it's weaknesses. The taller tires improve clearance and breakover but the added unsprung weight and tire radius puts stress on the axle tubes, c gussets, and shafts. You may not break anything, but the possibility increases the bigger you go. The heavier you wheel, the more your risk of breakage increases. But that is true no matter if you drive, a baja bug or a tank. If you plan on keeping your D30 for a while you can sleeve, gusset, truss and get chromo shafts (more splines/more strength) to make a so called super 30.

Believe it or not lockers can play a factor in breakage on weaker axles and is a double edged sword again. Locked axles may build up axle wrap, and axle wrap is your enemy. If you have weak shafts and lockers, torque can build up if the wheels can't spin and will have to release the energy somewhere. Usually with a snap. Conversely lockers limit wheel spin, on open axles the torque is transferred to the free wheel, so if you have a lot of wheel spin on a wheel and that wheel contacts something solid, all that energy will be transferred and snap!

A lot of these issues can be avoided by smart wheeling. Easy on the skinny pedal and don't bite off more than you can chew until you learn the limits of your rig. That case 35s can last a while before causing problems.

Thanks for reading this far... And if one thing I say is true without argument, it's:

If you want 35s, that is the only justification you need to get them.
Today 06:17 AM
calijudo Okay its 4am and i'm finally done with the install. I recieved my lift kit from ups at about 6pm last night. I skipped dinner and got super dirty. But I'm happy with my lift. Now I just need my front bumper to arrive. Next step is to save up for tires and gears. I like the idea of 33's without regearing it. But 35's with gears sounds awesome. What do you guys think? Do 35's cause problems?

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Today 01:23 AM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
I have a used older RK single rate springs and RK 2.0 shocks. It is lots rougher on the road than stock but I can blast the whoops way better than I use to. Don't know what it flexes because it is just the get it lifted kit while I am deciding what I want to do to it next. Seems to work adequately for now. I really just don't know what I want this jeep to do. The TJ was so much easier to figure. Rocks. But this thing is really hard for me to get a handle on. For cruising the trails and mild rocks it works fine as is. But if I want to really do some serious rocks then I do need to step it up.
Looking at your profile, maybe do the front bumper and a winch next. Diff covers if you don't already have them yet.
Today 01:06 AM
Gunner I have a used older RK single rate springs and RK 2.0 shocks. It is lots rougher on the road than stock but I can blast the whoops way better than I use to. Don't know what it flexes because it is just the get it lifted kit while I am deciding what I want to do to it next. Seems to work adequately for now. I really just don't know what I want this jeep to do. The TJ was so much easier to figure. Rocks. But this thing is really hard for me to get a handle on. For cruising the trails and mild rocks it works fine as is. But if I want to really do some serious rocks then I do need to step it up.
Today 12:57 AM
Gunner I got tired of filling the tank. It was so fast but then I always wanted to help those without air and I ended up needing a refill every run. My OBA is a lot slower but it works and I can fill my tires in about 7 or 8 minutes. My buddy has one of those 4000 psi carbon fiber scuba tanks and he fills it at his fire station. He takes less than a minute for a 35.
Today 12:37 AM
Lab Lover
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
I havent been to Pismo in years.. all I remember about that place is people taking their cars and getting stuck everywhere.
There are still dumb people that think a Honda should be down there in the soft sand, that will never end. In high school we would go down there and pull them out for beer, haha. Shhh.....I don't think my dad knew that's what I was doing with his Scout
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Im getting kinda tired of having to fill the CO2. I can never make it there during the week and they are closed on the weekends. An OBA is just so much better.
The place that I have ours filled is right by the grocery store I go to, it's very convenient for Mike since I drop it off when I go shopping and pick it up when I'm done
Yesterday 11:31 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
Im getting kinda tired of having to fill the CO2. I can never make it there during the week and they are closed on the weekends. An OBA is just so much better.
I'm just out here in the middle of no where lol I could build a whole York OBA cheaper than buying a pump that would do half as good lol
Yesterday 11:10 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post

Same here dude.
Im getting kinda tired of having to fill the CO2. I can never make it there during the week and they are closed on the weekends. An OBA is just so much better.
Yesterday 10:58 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
I still need to go and pick up a York.
I will jeep a eye out for them. I will let you guys know what I find.
Yesterday 10:50 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Almighty90 View Post
No problem, just throwing it out there. He had extras from when he linked the front.
Is it chromoly?
Yesterday 10:48 PM
Almighty90
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Meh I really wanted to go with .250 wall
No problem, just throwing it out there. He had extras from when he linked the front.
Yesterday 10:46 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
I still need to go and pick up a York.
Same here dude.
Yesterday 10:46 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Almighty90 View Post
If they don't, I know someone with .188 wall DOM tubing laying in his garage.
Meh I really wanted to go with .250 wall
Yesterday 10:36 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
Pick a part tomorrow see what we find.
I still need to go and pick up a York.
Yesterday 10:36 PM
Almighty90
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Thanks I'll call them Monday and see if they carry it
If they don't, I know someone with .188 wall DOM tubing laying in his garage.
Yesterday 10:19 PM
Ditchdoc Pick a part tomorrow see what we find.
Yesterday 08:20 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by RKCWLER View Post
Crest steel is in riverside.
Thanks I'll call them Monday and see if they carry it
Yesterday 08:19 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
.25 is kinda rare. What are you making a cannon?
Tie rod, drag link, and a rear track bar. Lol I like beef
Yesterday 07:36 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by Lab Lover View Post

Apparently quite a few people are spending Easter in Pismo, I stopped at the strawberry stand and there were a ton of people headed onto the beach. I know they stagger Spring Break, I guess quite a few people will be spending it here. Good for the economy, tourist money is always welcome.

I won't have to deal with them, we're headed to Havasu tomorrow sometime
I havent been to Pismo in years.. all I remember about that place is people taking their cars and getting stuck everywhere.
Yesterday 07:31 PM
Ditchdoc There are some guys running Berdo canyon. I think I may go with a coworker.
Yesterday 07:27 PM
RKCWLER
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
So anybody know a good place to get DOM in SoCal? Looking for some 1.5 DOM .250 wall. Called barstow industrial and they want to charge $310 for a 20ft stick. That's ridiculous, called industrial metal supply in riverside and they sell it $6.39 a foot. Any other ideas of places? Willing to go to Murrieta and around the IE.
Crest steel is in riverside.
Yesterday 07:18 PM
Lab Lover
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
So whos wheelin this weekend?
Apparently quite a few people are spending Easter in Pismo, I stopped at the strawberry stand and there were a ton of people headed onto the beach. I know they stagger Spring Break, I guess quite a few people will be spending it here. Good for the economy, tourist money is always welcome.

I won't have to deal with them, we're headed to Havasu tomorrow sometime
Yesterday 07:10 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
Not many people stock or carry .250 wall is what I've found. I think that's what's making the prices so high at most places.
.25 is kinda rare. What are you making a cannon?
Yesterday 07:05 PM
Moabrubi
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Originally Posted by R8DRIZD View Post

Wildomar OHV tomorrow.
I've heard that place is really small?
Yesterday 06:59 PM
R8DRIZD
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Originally Posted by Moabrubi View Post
So whos wheelin this weekend?
Wildomar OHV tomorrow.
Yesterday 06:55 PM
iwaxmyjimmy
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Originally Posted by Ditchdoc View Post
If I remember right schorr metal. I have to find my price schedule but I remember grabbing some 1.5 dom for a little over $4 per foot. They also have a lot of cut dom that go for .58/ # just have to pick n choose.
Not many people stock or carry .250 wall is what I've found. I think that's what's making the prices so high at most places.
Yesterday 06:54 PM
Moabrubi So whos wheelin this weekend?
Yesterday 06:53 PM
Ditchdoc
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Originally Posted by iwaxmyjimmy View Post
So anybody know a good place to get DOM in SoCal? Looking for some 1.5 DOM .250 wall. Called barstow industrial and they want to charge $310 for a 20ft stick. That's ridiculous, called industrial metal supply in riverside and they sell it $6.39 a foot. Any other ideas of places? Willing to go to Murrieta and around the IE.
If I remember right schorr metal. I have to find my price schedule but I remember grabbing some 1.5 dom for a little over $4 per foot. They also have a lot of cut dom that go for .58/ # just have to pick n choose.
Yesterday 06:19 PM
iwaxmyjimmy So anybody know a good place to get DOM in SoCal? Looking for some 1.5 DOM .250 wall. Called barstow industrial and they want to charge $310 for a 20ft stick. That's ridiculous, called industrial metal supply in riverside and they sell it $6.39 a foot. Any other ideas of places? Willing to go to Murrieta and around the IE.
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