|05-05-2013 10:08 AM|
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|05-05-2013 09:00 AM|
"Chill Winston..." mindset.
|05-05-2013 08:43 AM|
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|05-05-2013 08:11 AM|
|jk'n||BTW I tow a covered utility trailer that is purposed for camping when I'm on vacation. I is near the tow limit of 3500 lbs. I've towed it from Florida to Maine. It has issues going up hills with that kind of weight but no worse than a tractor trailer truck towing a full load uphill. I could keep up with those and even pass them occasionally when I had a long opening. At that weight, you will know it is back there.|
|05-05-2013 08:07 AM|
I have both a 2 door and 4 door with 4.1 gearing and both standard. Mine (4 door) is not a slug but not a race car either. The new jeeps with the pentafarse engine are not much different from the first JKs with the 3.8 in it - the main difference being the transmission. My wife's jeep (2 door) seems to have more pep than mine but that is just because of the extra weight that the 4 door carries around.
This may be related to my mid 50's old man image while driving - yesterday while driving around the idiot in the muscle truck behind me passed me at a 4 way stop in a no passing zone in a residential neighborhood. Made me feel kind of small and old man-ish when it happened but it could also just be an idiot driver who also happened to be a young woopersnapper. This also made me feel a little sluggish in my jeep but it is not related to its performance. If you want race car performance buy a racecar. If you are looking for great off road capability and winter driving security then a jeep is a great choice.
|05-05-2013 07:51 AM|
|05-05-2013 07:42 AM|
|MichaelEdwardsDO||Manual or automatics is your preference. I've had many of both. Yes a manual is an aficionados choice but all of the new "halo" automobiles are electronically shifted automatics for a reason. A human simply cannot shift faster than one which is properly tuned. I drive around using the electronic shifter in my automatic jku all the time because I like to control shift points. I miss out on a little engine braking below 10mph. Oh well. And I may yet buy a manual trams next time. My advice go to every dealership within 20miles and drive ever single jeep they will let you get into. The more your try the more you are likely to figure out what YOU prefer.|
|05-05-2013 07:13 AM|
So you were driving a '11, that explains everything.
gsn, my '12 was a 6-speed, and that vehicle was my seventh manual trans vehicle. Pretty sure I know how to drive a stick. No way in hell that one would take my '13 with the auto in a drag.
|05-04-2013 05:34 PM|
So, I drove the 2013 today. Wow, I'm impressed. The motor is COMPLETELY different from the 2011. I mean, GOBS more power. I didn't find the manual to be a big deal, it shifted nicely, and I even got in a power shift or two on my test drive. Lots of kick. The automatic was the big surprise though. I could be happy with that. This the first automatic I've ever driven where I'm completely happy with it. I am actually having a hard time deciding which to get to tell the truth. Really the only reason to get the manual over the automatic is because nobody drives stick anymore, and I enjoy it. (Plus I guess, potential thieves are too stupid to drive stick).
That being said, the auto gives me much more legroom. The clutch on the manual is kind of out there in the way. Hrm, decisions decisions.
|05-01-2013 04:09 PM|
Its simple as preference, if the person knows how to properly drive a manual, he wouldn't use an auto for other than comfort and probably not on his aficionado car. Except on some drag racing cars where highly tuned autos are beneficial and better.
|05-01-2013 03:21 PM|
I am curious about how much better the manual is.
No doubt, you have more control. My last two Wranglers were manual, but my current 2013 JKR is an auto (first one I have ever owned)...and it seems to rock. If I stand on the accelerator, it goes pretty much to red line. In fact, I find that I back down a bit to let it switch gears. I am really loving driving it. The new 5-speed auto trans coupled with the new 3.6L and 4.10 gearing makes this thing a heck of a lot more fun to drive than my old manual trans TJ.
Either way though, if you were driving a BMW before, you are going to have to rebaseline your expectations.
|05-01-2013 02:36 PM|
This is a 2012 wrangler with 3.21 and auto, pretty fast. Seems to be faster than the manual or what do you guys think
2012 jeep wrangler JK 0-100mph - YouTube
|05-01-2013 12:28 PM|
You probably had a tighter than usual inner shifting boot or whatever. If it were to shift like a truck all the acceleration ratings for the pentastar wranglers would not be the same. Unless you were not shifting properly.
Just a quick search found this
And he doesn't even seem to be peaking it which would make the transition even much easier.
|05-01-2013 08:08 AM|
I don't feel it back there. Plenty of power to pull and ample brakes to stop it. Even through the mountains. This JRUR manual is the best of the 4 Jeeps I've owned.
|05-01-2013 07:19 AM|
I used the exact same word ,,,(guttless) to discribe my first test drive in a 2010 JK.
You will be pleasantly surprised when you drive one with the 3.6 aluminum block JK.
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|04-30-2013 09:54 PM|
Test drive a 2012+ 2dr Rubi with the 4.10's and report back
If I could turn back time...
The 3.21's are horrible. Oh well, just means I will eventually re-gear to 4.56 or 4.88.
|04-30-2013 06:55 PM|
Now ditch that S-10 and buy a new 2013!
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|04-30-2013 05:29 PM|
Hey, I'm not a troll. It turns out it was a 2011, not a 2012 that I test drove. If I could fix the post title I would.
|04-30-2013 04:52 PM|
|HK_Runner||2012 4.10 2-door. Not a speed demon but not gutless either. Now with 35s, it is becoming less great but the 2011 I drove was no fun at all. Report back when you do this right.|
|04-30-2013 04:44 PM|
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|04-30-2013 12:22 PM|
why to people post in troll threads?
damnit.. i just did.
|04-30-2013 09:19 AM|
|Reece||BLK 2012 nailed it! Chopper, call back when you get it right. My 2013 2dr automatic is way faster than it needs to be.|
|04-30-2013 09:13 AM|
You guys do know that the auto has a manual mode, right? You can manually shift if you choose.
Except for low end torque, my 3.6 has more usable power than my 4.7 v8 did in my 01 WJ. So I don't know how people can say the new Wrangler is gutless. It's not a sports car and never will be one. So stop comparing it to Mustangs and Camaros. It's a go anywhere convertible vehicle... don't know of any other vehicles that even compete against it. It's in a category of it's own.
|04-30-2013 08:11 AM|
|Binx||I bought a 2 door six speed with the 3.73, I drove the auto and it didn't feel good, clunky. The manual is clunky as well but at least I know why. It has decent pep for what it is and the weight. The gear box does feel like shifting an old bread truck and at 3500 plus rpm in 2wd the motor sounds like it's going to explode, but in 4 low it is phenomenal.|
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