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05-06-2013 01:13 PM
Ryken01 I also have no Idea where to go to talk to people about my jeep problems
05-06-2013 01:06 PM
Ryken01 A spring over is an awesome poor mans lift. I did a spring over with 2 inch bds lift springs and 2 inch body lift. I also have tera flex revolver and z box spring shackles. almost all came with the jeep lol. I'm a newbie who also has questions about oil coming out of disrtibuter on a 2.5 4 cylinder.
05-05-2013 11:34 PM
WGHyrum
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Originally Posted by TipperD View Post
Wow that is pretty....way back in the day....like 1975 or so I had the use of my uncle's 1960 Willy's....and also owned a 1970 Willy's pick up for a time.....never got into the car thing really til now.....got out of large sailboats ans airplanes....at the stage where all the toys have to live in the backyard!
I love the old Willys. I grew up with my legs hanging off the tailgate of my Grandpa's '52 Willys while sitting on an old ammo box, crawling around the national parks near Moab, UT. It is why I have a YJ; 92 and newer YJs were built in the same factory as the old Willys.
05-04-2013 11:26 PM
Grizzlycb I just did my lift and everything on there at least springs shocks and shackles all look Identical to my 92. Why they're is a tcase drop I don't know.. But I had 31x10.5s on my old stock springs but here is a before and after of my setup I have a 2.5 rough country lift with 1 inch rough country shackles
05-04-2013 08:21 AM
TipperD Wow that is pretty....way back in the day....like 1975 or so I had the use of my uncle's 1960 Willy's....and also owned a 1970 Willy's pick up for a time.....never got into the car thing really til now.....got out of large sailboats ans airplanes....at the stage where all the toys have to live in the backyard!
05-04-2013 07:30 AM
Tarby I've had my Rio for 10 years now...I had the 31's on it up until a year and a half ago. The only reason I lifted it a little more and went to 33's was because I got rid of my CJ5 trail rig to get a JK for my wife (although, she cried when I traded my CJ)...her TJ was a money bucket and she never liked it from the moment I brought it home. Now, she is happy...so that means everyone is happy...lol!! Here was the last pic I took of my old CJ...[IMG][/IMG]
05-04-2013 06:35 AM
TipperD Tarby that is a great looking Jeep...gives me something to aspire to.... will keep mine it at 31".

Thanks to all you that responded, I learned a lot. Will definitely be doing springs, shocks and shackles later this summer. Something not right as there is a sharp metal sound coming from one of the rear springs, sometimes it sits level and sometimes it is down in the back. I will only do this once as ultimate goal is to tow behind my Safari Trek MH and once I have it lifted will need to set up tow bar level to MH...
05-04-2013 01:42 AM
WGHyrum Zone Offroad also makes a good set of 1" lift boomerang shackles for a decent price. I have them on my 95 Rio Grand in conjunction with a BDS 2" lift and it rides wonderfully. Great as a dd or offroad.
I would replace those stock springs with something. I really wouldn't do an add-a-leaf judging by the condition my stock springs were in.
05-03-2013 10:52 PM
Siffo3012 With regard to shackles: make sure you don't overtighten!!!!! I was even warned and I over tightened... Those shackle bolts have to allow the shackles to move so the spring flexes... My jeep rode like a 400 lbs hooker until I figured out my shackles weren't moving. I loosened them and now she only rides like a 200 lbs hooker...
05-03-2013 10:14 PM
n2trucking
05-03-2013 07:32 AM
Tarby
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That looks great.....seems like it is the answer, did you have to any other mods to the drive train?...like the fender flares too...

No other mods needed...In Pennsylvania, it is illegal to run without flares covering the wheels...stock are fine and no rub with alot of flex with the 31's.

Also, if you want to upgrade later, you can do a 1 inch body lift, extend brake lines, use flat fender flares and throw on some 33's, and it will come out like this...as mine sits now...and no rub...[IMG][/IMG]
05-03-2013 06:53 AM
WellsR
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Originally Posted by AV8R View Post
31s are hard to fit without a spring or body lift.

The RE lift is a nice lift...


As bone stock as could be sitting on 31's. No rub anywhere at all
05-03-2013 05:51 AM
TipperD That looks great.....seems like it is the answer, did you have to any other mods to the drive train?...like the fender flares too...
05-02-2013 08:49 PM
Tarby Here is what mine looked like when I had 31 inch tires, RE 2.5 lift with 1 inch over stock shackles (from RE). Plenty of clearance and nice ride.[IMG][/IMG]
05-02-2013 07:02 PM
beardown those shackles are def stock!!! ome greasables are the best! 110$ though, as far as a 2.5 inch at least,,,
05-02-2013 06:42 PM
tigerblood
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RE 2.5 would be a great choice
haha
05-02-2013 06:30 PM
TipperD Thanks so much for the great input...gotta love forum for this!....There are a few broken ends on those U bolts as well.....I want to correct all this, I am not looking for extreme off road, want a better ride-- it's rough now....I know it's a Jeep, but the springs make noise and I know it is not 100%. In reading and trying to learn as much as possible here it seems I can do a 2.5...would lean towards the RE standard ... new shackles, but also would consider the Black Diamond 1.5,,,,any thoughts on this?.....As the tires are at about 80% no point in not keeping them and continuing with 31".
05-02-2013 05:16 PM
Gothere
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Originally Posted by roadyrob View Post
the spring eye in the last pic has a half wrap, its not a stock spring.
No my springs (factory) have that half wrap, it's kind of funky, but those are stock, in fact the pictures look alot like my Heep...One thing I did notice is on the U bolts the outboard u bolt threads extend way down, looks like the PO have definitely been monkeying with it...
05-02-2013 05:11 PM
Gothere
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Originally Posted by TipperD View Post
Any suggestions on which shackles to use if I do the 2.5 RE lift? It seems there is so much choice in all of this.
I did a small lift of an add a leaf 2", then added Con-Ferr extended shackles, i think they are about 4-6" in length, that gave me about a 3-4 inch lift and was fairly cheap...$200 for add a leaf's, and about $75 for the shackles. Now this was done way back in 95/96 so prices have changed and I think Con-Ferr is out of biz. I'm now in the process of redoing the entire lift to a SOA.

If your into doing this on a budget, you can go with extended long shackles (they use to be fairly cheap $$$), I never liked mine due to interfering with approach angles (shackles hitting stuff first before I could get up and over the obstacle) as I live in AZ and rocks get in the way out here. I believe I read you were using this as a beach jeep, which shackles shouldn't be a big problem cruising in sand. Basic rule for lift height when adding long shackles is that you gain half the height of the shackle..ie...4" inch shackle should give you about 2" of lift.

If you got some cash to put into it go with one of the MFG's 2.5" kits, there is an abundance of types and designs which will fit you applications...One good thing is you already have the TC drop installed, you will need it once you go over about 2" in lift.

Hope that helps a little..
05-02-2013 05:09 PM
roadyrob crown makes a nice set of boomerang shackles at a reasonable price, you can find them on ebay or crt performance.
05-02-2013 05:07 PM
roadyrob
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Originally Posted by Gothere View Post
No, I got to disagree, the shackles are stock, not a 100% on this but at least 99%. When I took my stock shackles off on my 95 YJ they looked the same, got to admit I haven't seen them in years, but I can dig them out and double check. I recall the shackles being made out of cheap pig iron and they came apart in 2 plates.
your right, the shackles are stock and one has been modified like tigerblood said. my comment was about the bolts themselves, they kind of look like greasable bolts but the pic is a little fuzzy so I could be wrong. the spring eye in the last pic has a half wrap, its not a stock spring.
05-02-2013 04:49 PM
TipperD Any suggestions on which shackles to use if I do the 2.5 RE lift? It seems there is so much choice in all of this.
05-02-2013 04:34 PM
Gothere
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Originally Posted by roadyrob View Post
looks like a well worn lift of some kind. that last pic isn't a stock spring. 2nd to last pic looks like greaseable bolts.
No, I got to disagree, the shackles are stock, not a 100% on this but at least 99%. When I took my stock shackles off on my 95 YJ they looked the same, got to admit I haven't seen them in years, but I can dig them out and double check. I recall the shackles being made out of cheap pig iron and they came apart in 2 plates.
05-02-2013 04:12 PM
roadyrob looks like a well worn lift of some kind. that last pic isn't a stock spring. 2nd to last pic looks like greaseable bolts.
05-02-2013 04:09 PM
Gothere
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Originally Posted by TipperD View Post
here are the front and rear shackles...are they stock too?

This jeep was salvage as the rear door was hit and back window broken...maybe the PO was in the process of a lift when he lost it. Or maybe he just went as far as the tires and rims. In any case it needs new suspension.

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Yeah, they look stock to me...
05-02-2013 04:08 PM
tigerblood haha, thats the first ive ever seen someone cut and shorten a stock shackle. I think you hit the nail on the head with it needing new suspension.
05-02-2013 04:01 PM
TipperD
Pics of shackles

here are the front and rear shackles...are they stock too?

This jeep was salvage as the rear door was hit and back window broken...maybe the PO was in the process of a lift when he lost it. Or maybe he just went as far as the tires and rims. In any case it needs new suspension.

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05-02-2013 03:00 PM
Gothere I have a 95 YJ, initally I put on 31's with no issue, then added about 3' to the lift for 32's. I then got a bad driveline vibe and did a cheap quick TC drop like the one here, my guess is the prior owner had a small lift (extended shackles..or..?) and did the TC drop, when he sold it he might have pulled the lift but left the TC drop....Just a wild guess. All the other components look like they are stock. When you do the 2.5 lift, you at least will be good for the TC drop though.
05-02-2013 01:52 PM
beardown it looks to me that it's all stock other thn tires and wheels... I have a formula to figure out lift but I will have to dig it up... I thought that 31s can still avoid rubbing, but 32s will, 2.5 inch lift with ome all the way around is what I did with 32s and noticed a lot more thn I expected! not the cheapest route,, I also think that above 33s with 2.5 lift you have to look in to messing with gear ratios,,,, which I want no part of with a daily driver,,
05-01-2013 08:18 PM
tigerblood RE 2.5 would be a great choice
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