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05-21-2013 10:16 PM
03WranglerRubicon
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
X2 on both responses above. And removing your TJ's rear antiswaybar does not (!) increase its usable articulation.

If completely removing the rear antiswaybar on a coil spring suspension helped, the hardcore rock crawlers would all be doing that... and they're not.

For example, John Currie won the overall U.S. national (ARCA) rockcrawling championship on his Fireant Wrangler TJ running front and rear antirock antiswaybars. You can see John's rear suspension with its antiswaybar below in a pic I took years ago at the ARCA championship in Johnson Valley.

Removing the track bar & antiswaybar can help with a leaf spring suspension like the older CJs and Wrangler YJs but not with the coil spring suspension of '97 and newer Wranglers.

is this a 4 link short arm? if this is in a kit i want it...
05-05-2013 12:43 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by 00silverTJ View Post
5 times you typed "antiswaybar". I've known for a while that you had a pet peeve for the "proper" nomenclature for that part, but damn that is tiring to read. Then 2 "anti-rock antiswaybar "'s and I have a headache.
If there's one thing I've learned on the internet over the years is you just can't win. For every thousand people who will jump on you for not using the right terminology, there will be one yahoo who jumps on you for using the correct terminology.
05-05-2013 10:23 AM
00silverTJ
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
X2 on both responses above. And removing your TJ's rear antiswaybar does not (!) increase its usable articulation.

If completely removing the rear antiswaybar on a coil spring suspension helped, the hardcore rock crawlers would all be doing that... and they're not.

For example, John Currie won the overall U.S. national (ARCA) rockcrawling championship on his Fireant Wrangler TJ running front and rear antirock antiswaybars. You can see John's rear suspension with its antiswaybar below in a pic I took years ago at the ARCA championship in Johnson Valley.

Removing the track bar & antiswaybar can help with a leaf spring suspension like the older CJs and Wrangler YJs but not with the coil spring suspension of '97 and newer Wranglers.
5 times you typed "antiswaybar". I've known for a while that you had a pet peeve for the "proper" nomenclature for that part, but damn that is tiring to read. Then 2 "anti-rock antiswaybar "'s and I have a headache.

Don't you know that it is called a sway-bar because its inventor was John Sway, not John Anti-Sway? Jeesh!
05-03-2013 08:19 PM
1rbotma I lied!! I have the stock rear track bar! I have it installed and heading out to the jeep blessing tomorrow morning!!!
05-03-2013 11:08 AM
PStov98TJ
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Ok. I have an adjustable rough country track bar
You have it installed? Those are by far the worst for clearance issues. You'd be better off with a stock on on the relocation bracket.
05-03-2013 10:49 AM
1rbotma Ok. I have an adjustable rough country track bar
05-03-2013 10:46 AM
PStov98TJ Ok. Just making sure. With an sye/cv you'd need an angled braket. But with that much lift, as Jerry said, it's definitely needed. You could also get the Currie rear track bar if you're looking to upgrade to an aftermarket one. I believe it's the only one that doesn't cause major clearance issues.
05-03-2013 10:37 AM
1rbotma Tc drop kit. 4" lift

Stock driveline
05-03-2013 10:36 AM
PStov98TJ How tall is your lift? And do you have an sye/cv or stock driveline?
05-03-2013 10:36 AM
Jerry Bransford Yes indeed if you have a suspension lift. That bracket helps recenter the axle once a suspension lift is added.
05-03-2013 10:34 AM
1rbotma Will do! I bracket came with my lift for the rear track bar. Should I utilize that extended bracket on my d44 ?

I think I should
05-03-2013 10:10 AM
Jerry Bransford Great, now go reinstall your rear antiswaybar... its presence actually helps offroad & can actually help prevent a flop or a roll in some situations.
05-03-2013 10:09 AM
1rbotma
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
X2 on both responses above. And removing your TJ's rear antiswaybar does not (!) increase its usable articulation.

If completely removing the rear antiswaybar on a coil spring suspension helped, the hardcore rock crawlers would all be doing that... and they're not.

For example, John Currie won the overall U.S. national (ARCA) rockcrawling championship on his Fireant Wrangler TJ running front and rear antirock antiswaybars. You can see John's rear suspension with its antiswaybar below in a pic I took years ago at the ARCA championship in Johnson Valley.

Removing the track bar & antiswaybar can help with a leaf spring suspension like the older CJs and Wrangler YJs but not with the coil spring suspension of '97 and newer Wranglers.
thanks as always Jerry
05-03-2013 10:08 AM
1rbotma thanks guys.

yes i will double check for clearance issues.

ready for some summer weather!
05-03-2013 10:07 AM
Jerry Bransford X2 on both responses above. And removing your TJ's rear antiswaybar does not (!) increase its usable articulation.

If completely removing the rear antiswaybar on a coil spring suspension helped, the hardcore rock crawlers would all be doing that... and they're not.

For example, John Currie won the overall U.S. national (ARCA) rockcrawling championship on his Fireant Wrangler TJ running front and rear antirock antiswaybars. You can see John's rear suspension with its antiswaybar below in a pic I took years ago at the ARCA championship in Johnson Valley.

Removing the track bar & antiswaybar can help with a leaf spring suspension like the older CJs and Wrangler YJs but not with the coil spring suspension of '97 and newer Wranglers.
05-03-2013 10:04 AM
PStov98TJ
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
ok thanks for the info... I just got done installing 488s in my d30 and a g2 d44 axle in the rear.

and now the last thing to do is install my track bar! today will be the first time ive drove my jeep since last june!!!!!!!
That's a good feeling! Congrats man! Be sure to check for clearance issues with the new axle at full bump, droop, and flex on each side.
05-03-2013 10:03 AM
PStov98TJ x2 about the sway bar. Forgot to mention that. In some situations it helps to disconnect the front but the rear should remain connected at all times.
05-03-2013 10:03 AM
1rbotma ok thanks for the info... I just got done installing 488s in my d30 and a g2 d44 axle in the rear.

and now the last thing to do is install my track bar! today will be the first time ive drove my jeep since last june!!!!!!!
05-03-2013 09:56 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by 1rbotma View Post
Do i need my rear track bar? I took off my rear sway bar for more articulation but I was wondering if i really need my track bar.

It is not my DD and I only drive it to the trails and back. not trailering.

any opinions or first hand experience with this issue?
yes, you need your rear track bar. and you need your rear sway bar...if it's properly setup, removing it won't give you any more articulation, it's absence will just make the jeep more unstable.
05-03-2013 09:52 AM
PStov98TJ Yes you absolutely need it!! TJ's are not built on leaf spring suspensions. They are a link suspension. The only way to remove the rear track bar is to triangulate the CA's

The track bar keeps the axle centered under the Jeep, without it the Jeep will track oddly on the road and can cause you to wreck!
05-03-2013 09:47 AM
1rbotma
Keep the rear track bar?

Do i need my rear track bar? I took off my rear sway bar for more articulation but I was wondering if i really need my track bar.

It is not my DD and I only drive it to the trails and back. not trailering.

any opinions or first hand experience with this issue?

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