|09-11-2013 01:14 PM|
Also, let's not forget how long people keep wranglers when they fall in love with them. $2K work for minimum 6 years of extra off road enjoyment is well worth it. And 6 is a minimum, more like 10.
|09-11-2013 12:54 PM|
I know this is an older thread but thought I would add my two cents for any new views.
I also have a 2WD and bought it for $14,900. The price of a used 4x4 was around $22k. From all the other conversion post around, the parts bolt right up.
D30 complete - $350
NP241J - $550 + $50 shipping
Front and rear Driveshafts - $80
I still have about $600 in parts to go. At less than $1700 in parts it's still way under a 4WD.
I think its going to be a worth it as I do plan on keeping it for quite some time.
|05-03-2013 06:48 PM|
|Jeepin07||I was told the jeep has a Dana 44 rear end with a 4.10 gear ratio. I found a brand new Dana 44 front axle w/o gears for a little over a grand front and new front and rear drive shafts for around 600 for both. I'm sure finding a rear ended jeep would be easier and cheap. I don't have deep pockets so this build wouldn't be a rush. Basiclly just wanting to look around and buy the needed parts when I find good deals and then do the conversion when I have what I need. Not looking to build a rock crawler, just something to have fun with and light off-roading. In that being said I'd still like to keep this one rather than trading it in.|
|05-03-2013 03:32 PM|
If you have the time and money and know how, it should be fun.
|05-03-2013 02:44 PM|
|05-03-2013 02:30 PM|
|Jaker jk||Being a 07 he will have 3.73 or 4.10 , mine had 4.10 in it|
|05-03-2013 02:13 PM|
|05-03-2013 02:09 PM|
No you are right about front and rear , but I didn't do them at the same time , I regear the rear a year before
But depending on what gears he has he might not need to , one guy I help found a front with the same gears so he didn't need to
|05-03-2013 02:05 PM|
I'm not trying to get into a pissing argument here. Just stating some basic facts to make sure the OP is fully informed.
|05-03-2013 01:51 PM|
|Jaker jk||It had a carrier in it and since it was a loose axle , it cost 425 to regear it to 5.13|
|05-03-2013 01:22 PM|
|PStov98TJ||I figured the case would be easier. But how much did those gears and gear install & setup cost you in the front axle?|
|05-03-2013 01:19 PM|
The swap is easier then you can imagine , to put the transfer case in took 4 hours and it took more time to put the drive shafts in then the case
The axle was not from a friend saw it on sale on the forums , it did not have gears or shafts
So the housing was 150 and the shafts where 150 , so 300 total
I was going to a 44 but the cost was crazy and when I was gathering parts at the time there was not to many axles running around not like now
I didnt do all of it over a weekend , one month the axle another month the transfer case
|05-03-2013 11:29 AM|
Honestly, a D30 for $150 is pretty unrealistic, kinda like wrong/misleading information on a forum. Unless you have a friend that took theirs out you're not gonna get one for $150... Most are for sale for significantly more than that. And why would you sub in a D30? Why not just go for the D44. They will be similar in cost and you may even find a 44 with a locker already installed.
|05-03-2013 11:15 AM|
For most folks, that is just not the case. The previous posts you reference have an underlying assumption that labor charges are built in. IMO that was clear from the context of the discussion.
|05-03-2013 11:11 AM|
You're exactly right. It's not that its hard, and doing it with a friend would make it even more fun. But the OP needs to weigh his/her options. Do you have the time and commitment to do all of the necessary mods? The jeep will likely be out of commission for full weekends (possibly more) at a time when the t-case needs to be swapped, the transmission output shaft has to be swapped, and the axle has to be swapped as the basic modifications. Granted, the axle will be a bolt on if he gets a D30 or D44 out of another JK, but the t-case will require a cross member be added. Or he could just go ahead and do a TT while it's not there anyway I guess.
There's lots of options and great possibilities here to truly build an awesome rig. But there's also alot of commitment involved. If he gets in over his head, there's no way to sell a half broken down 2wd jeep.... Not trying to scare anyone, just stating the reality of the situation.
|05-03-2013 09:33 AM|
A new dana 30 front axle would run you 3500 just for the complete axle.
You could easily buy a wrecked jeep for much less....
Your front axle looks identical to my 4x4 except for the big pumpkin thats missing.... i think i could do it. And im not a good mechanic.
Get a wrecked jeep and befriend a redneck....lol
|05-03-2013 09:23 AM|
|05-03-2013 09:08 AM|
Just tagging this to see what happens.
And, to share an observation: Yall ever notice that every single web forum about vehicles that have part-time 4WD models has threads on it about converting a 2WD version to 4WD.
Sometimes I think there's a secret society of people who have but one goal, ask how to convert 2WD to 4WD on forums. I imagine them being wealthy 30-somethings who meet in fancy board rooms to plot how to ranomly sprinkle the internet with 4WD conversion questions.
- Just being silly
- Good luck to the OP and pics if it happens!
|05-03-2013 08:42 AM|
|05-03-2013 08:16 AM|
|Shammy OShea||Just gonna add my .02 here for self-satisfying reasons. You could easily get out of this for less than a couple grand. It's been done before. That being said, unless you plan on keeping this Jeep forever, I'd get rid of it now. No matter how much work/time/money you put into converting it, on paper you still have a 2 wheel drive Jeep. Trade-in or private sale price will not come close to recouping your money. Then again, I'll never see the 3k+ that I put into mine either. Good luck and keep us posted.|
|05-03-2013 08:07 AM|
2wd front axle
|05-03-2013 08:05 AM|
And again a lot of wrong info on a forum from the ones above
Depending on where you get the parts and if upgrade some of them and you do the work it can cost between 900 to 2000
It cost me 1200 and 500 in upgrades , here is my conversion thread any questions just ask 2wd conversion build thread - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
|05-03-2013 03:08 AM|
go to a junkyard and find a rearended JK. grab the T-Case, front axle, probably the shift assembly and the center console plastic if you need it. buy a good set of front and rear driveshafts.
I think you could probably get away with spending $4000 or so on it.
|05-03-2013 01:36 AM|
Well I have to ask what is your budget? I assume that you bought the 2wd cheap right?
Have to say all of the above us correct unless you want to do a serious build. And in the end for resale it will still have a 2wd Vin so it will not matter that u made it 4wd. But I have not seen one but I am willing to bet you have to change the transmission as well to accept the transfer case also your stock rear drive shaft is now no good because you need the shorter 4wd rear shaft. And then as said above for transmission and transfer case wiring, mounting brackets, for all of this ECM interior panels, have to most likely cut the tub for the 4wd shifters. Also have to get a gear matched front axle assembly I am willing to bet your 2wd has 3.21 gears to stay with that in a 4wd build will result in utter dissattification in off road performance. So youight want to look into a rear assembly to.
It is doable but labor intensive. If you we're building a rock buggy or something if that nature then it would be more doable cause you would most likely be changing out drive train axles all that good stuff.
My suggestion sell it and by a 4wd or just enjoy it for what it is and stick to dirt roads and highway.
|05-03-2013 01:30 AM|
Here's an idea of what you'd be getting into. I didn't read the whole thread but this guy is going slightly above and beyond the call of duty with the custom Dana 60's; however, it gives you a reality check on what this entails.
|05-03-2013 01:21 AM|
|PStov98TJ||Yeah. And all that I listed above doesn't include changing the interior an possibly reprogramming the computer to recognize the fact that you've converted it to a 4wd. Too much work in my mind, especially when you can get one with 4wd then spend the money on lift and/or tires.|
|05-03-2013 01:17 AM|
|Rubi513||Sell it and buy a 4wd|
|05-03-2013 01:08 AM|
A 4x4 conversion isn't a normal mod because most Jeepers on here have the 4x4 jeep already. I've never personally even seen a 2wd wrangler before. But as stated above, it may look cheap on the price tag; but the complications that will potentially come with it aren't worth the headache in my opinion. You'll need a whole new front axle that has the ability to accept a DS and obviously has a differential in it (just curious, what does your front axle even look like? Like I said, never seen a non 4wd wrangler, post pics of it if you don't mind, kinda curious). And you'll need a selectable transfer case with a 4wd hi and low options on it so that you can engage the front DS to turn the front wheels. The hi and low options are important features when you get into the trickier situations.
Then you have to worry about odd clearance issues with the newly install DS at full droop, full bump, and full flex. I have no idea if the Jeep engineers designed the undercarriage of 2wd jeeps the same way the 4wd ones are structured (once again, never seen one).
Does all that make sense? Not trying to be a downer but there's alot to consider here and if it's truly worth your time, money, and the inevitable aggravation to convert or if it's smarter to just sell and buy one with 4wd...
And I've gotta ask, did you not know it was 2wd before you bought it? Just curious.
|05-03-2013 12:54 AM|
|i82much||I have never heard of a cost-efficient 4x4 conversion. I would sell it and get a different Jeep or trade it in. Sorry, I know that sucks.|
|05-03-2013 12:10 AM|
Newbie with Questions! Converting a 2WD to 4WD
What's up fellas!! I'm new to the jeep scene. I just got a hold of an 07 wrangler Sahara about 6 months ago and to my luck it was NOT 4x4. This was very discouraging at first concidering that it defeats the purpose of owning a jeep IMO, but as I looked into it, I am finding out the conversion isn't as expensive as I assumed it would be. So now I'm in the market for the parts needed for the swap. I know lots of you jeep owners upgrade and/or know WAY more than me and any of your input would be appreciated. Any thoughts on what I should look for and what would be a reasonable price?