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05-05-2013 12:59 PM
Jerry Bransford Speed sensitive shimmies like that are invariably from a bad tire or imperfect tire balance. The bigger the tire, the more critical perfect tire balance becomes.
05-05-2013 12:08 PM
invmgmt Damn. Still had DW after replacing track bar. Tires are aggressive mudders. Keep rotating and balancing but having no effect anymore. Put BFG KOs on and it really smoothed everything out....for a while.

After a week, starting to get a shimmy -- but not full DW -- again around 52 (same speed as before). It goes away at 55.

Any ideas?
04-15-2013 09:36 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by invmgmt View Post
Steering wheel is now slightly turned to the right. (WTF?)
Normal after having slightly changed the length of the track bar. Recenter the steering wheel with the adjustment link on the drag link.
04-14-2013 09:21 PM
invmgmt Okay...JKS track bar is in. Centering the axle under the jeep was a pain in the rear-end. Steering wheel is now slightly turned to the right. (WTF?)

Now I get to see if that was the ONLY thing causing DW.
04-13-2013 07:30 PM
Patrick H I had no problems at all. There isn't much material to be removed. I didn't use any oil (yeah, I know) and used a regular old black oxide drill bit of unknown brand..
04-13-2013 06:25 PM
Jerry Bransford Try slowing the drill bit down & using a bit of cooling oil on it. I've enlarged that hole on my own TJs and others without problem just using standard drill bits.
04-13-2013 06:23 PM
invmgmt Okay...bought the JKS. Now the problem is that I have broken TWO 9/16" bits trying to enlarge the hole. The only bits at Home Depot are Milwaulkee in a 9/16". Seriously, broke two. Guess I will see what Lowes has, but these are supposed to drill steel.

Any ideas??
04-05-2013 02:08 PM
OhSixTJ
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Originally Posted by invmgmt View Post
How much play is there around the axle-side bolt? I removed the existing Track Bar to see if it was ovaled...it was not. But there is some play around that bolt, is that normal? I just don't know how tight the tolerances are supposed to be on that part.
It's probably a bad bushing. I'm in for this question as well, just found my track bar is loose too
04-02-2013 06:40 PM
invmgmt How much play is there around the axle-side bolt? I removed the existing Track Bar to see if it was ovaled...it was not. But there is some play around that bolt, is that normal? I just don't know how tight the tolerances are supposed to be on that part.
03-26-2013 12:43 PM
Patrick H Yep, made an 1/8" plate for mine..
03-26-2013 12:10 PM
All Terrain JK
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
i'm a big fan of welding a piece of 1/8" over the stock axle side mount. I did it on my HP D30, and would recommend it to everyone....regardless of track bar.
I will be doing this when I install my axle housing JJ kit. I'll have the welder right there, no more excuses lol.
03-26-2013 11:53 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by All Terrain TJ View Post
Or you can cut and weld a cover plate on the mount and re-drill. UnlimitedLJ04 has a nice pic of that. I think a write up to.
i'm a big fan of welding a piece of 1/8" over the stock axle side mount. I did it on my HP D30, and would recommend it to everyone....regardless of track bar.
03-26-2013 11:45 AM
All Terrain JK
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Another question...since the track bar is bad at both ends, should I assume that the axle side mounting hole is ovaled? If so, does that change potential replacement bar? The bar shifts on the axle side a little bit which is how I was able to diagnose as DW contributor.
I have no experience with the JKS bar but for the TJJ the housing mount is drilled out to 1/2".


Attachment 227755


So I guess it depends on how distorted the hole is. Or you can cut and weld a cover plate on the mount and re-drill. UnlimitedLJ04 has a nice pic of that. I think a write up to.
03-26-2013 11:35 AM
invmgmt Another question...since the track bar is bad at both ends, should I assume that the axle side mounting hole is ovaled? If so, does that change potential replacement bar? The bar shifts on the axle side a little bit which is how I was able to diagnose as DW contributor.
03-25-2013 09:29 PM
Arch Stanton Maybe I'll get a skid or a guard for the bottom half.

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Originally Posted by All Terrain TJ View Post
I had to go back to stock.
03-25-2013 08:57 PM
All Terrain JK
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Originally Posted by Arch Stanton View Post
I have BDS 2" springs and OME shocks, and I have somewhere between 1.5 to 1.75 of bump stop in the front and rear. I have the Crown HD Steering Kit with the ZJ bent tie rod, and the track bar is making contact with the ODC diff cover. I was wondering if the JKS would provide more clearance over the stock TB. If not, I'm going to remove the ODC diff cover and go back to stock or maybe the Barnett cover.
I had to go back to stock.
03-25-2013 08:52 PM
Arch Stanton That's pretty close. Maybe the ZJ tie rod would provide enough clearance.


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This is the JKS track bar with stock tie rod, and 2" bump stops. Not mine.

03-25-2013 08:50 PM
Arch Stanton I have BDS 2" springs and OME shocks, and I have somewhere between 1.5 to 1.75 of bump stop in the front and rear. I have the Crown HD Steering Kit with the ZJ bent tie rod, and the track bar is making contact with the ODC diff cover. I was wondering if the JKS would provide more clearance over the stock TB. If not, I'm going to remove the ODC diff cover and go back to stock or maybe the Barnett cover.


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Originally Posted by Patrick H View Post
I haven't pulled the springs and pushed it to full bump yet as I'm waiting on new shocks to get here, but I've seen pics and claims that it'll clear with 2" bump stops, even shorter with the ZJ tie rod, which I have...\

And right now I have about 2 1/2" bump stops, but I'll probably be able to reduce that to 2" with my new shocks, if the tire still stays out of the fender.
03-25-2013 07:27 PM
Patrick H This is the JKS track bar with stock tie rod, and 2" bump stops. Not mine.

03-25-2013 07:25 PM
Patrick H
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Did the JKS track bar clear your diff cover? I'm thinking of getting the JKS TB as well.
I haven't pulled the springs and pushed it to full bump yet as I'm waiting on new shocks to get here, but I've seen pics and claims that it'll clear with 2" bump stops, even shorter with the ZJ tie rod, which I have...\

And right now I have about 2 1/2" bump stops, but I'll probably be able to reduce that to 2" with my new shocks, if the tire still stays out of the fender.
03-25-2013 07:16 PM
Arch Stanton
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Originally Posted by Patrick H View Post

The frame side bracket has to be drilled out. JKS has two options, you drill either 9/16", or 5/8" for their "heavy duty" unit. The Currie also requires 5/8", and the axle bracket drilled to 1/2".
I chose the JKS OGS126 that requires 9/16". It removes very little material, and in my opinion, a stock tapered stud track bar could still be used.
Did the JKS track bar clear your diff cover? I'm thinking of getting the JKS TB as well.
03-25-2013 04:57 PM
All Terrain JK I had the same type of clearance issues you're having. I had a Skyjacker track bar and it was a diff masher as well. I decided to go with the currie TJJ track bar and couldn't be happier.

Attachment 227389



Attachment 227390

The thing about clearancing is once you get one part to clear you usually find the next part to hit.
If you want to see what I did to get clearance in my front end you can check out my build thread.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/marc...-221479-2.html
Good luck.
03-25-2013 04:32 PM
Patrick H
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Originally Posted by invmgmt View Post
So, I had emailed Rough Country based on the identification by Mass TJ. Their response..."buy a new track bar".

Thanks guys! Great customer service. You can bet the new track bar will be from Currie or JKS.

Are both Currie and JKS a direct bolt on solution? Or will I need to re-drill holes?
The frame side bracket has to be drilled out. JKS has two options, you drill either 9/16", or 5/8" for their "heavy duty" unit. The Currie also requires 5/8", and the axle bracket drilled to 1/2".
I chose the JKS OGS126 that requires 9/16". It removes very little material, and in my opinion, a stock tapered stud track bar could still be used.
03-25-2013 04:11 PM
invmgmt So, I had emailed Rough Country based on the identification by Mass TJ. Their response..."buy a new track bar".

Thanks guys! Great customer service. You can bet the new track bar will be from Currie or JKS.

Are both Currie and JKS a direct bolt on solution? Or will I need to re-drill holes?
03-24-2013 02:47 PM
invmgmt Didn't realize that was an aftermarket pitman arm...was on the Jeep when I bought it.
03-23-2013 09:58 PM
Patrick H I couldn't tell if that mark was from track bar impact, or just a grease spot.
03-23-2013 09:32 PM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by invmgmt View Post
Are you certain? It doesn't appear to be that close to the diff cover.
100% certain. you have a big mark in your diff cover. smashing the track bar into the diff cover is what killed your track bar ends.



you have a major clearance problem, even with the giant aluminum bumpstop extensions already bolted to the spring pad. you need a different track bar that fits - I'd suggest a Currie TJS or TJJ model from Savvy Offroad, or a JKS. Currie is the better choice, IMHO.

read here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/tj...it-fit-738948/

also, as previously stated, that drop pitman arm is crap and needs to be replaced with a stock pitman arm.
03-23-2013 09:15 PM
Hiatus83 x2... def ditch the dropped pitman arm and put back on stock, the drag link angle will be better.. i have the same adj track bar, and the nut stripped out, recommend welding it into place so it can not be adjustable anymore, and doesnt look like you have enough grease in that tie rod end on the track bar..., got death wobble scary as hell cause of a stripped rough country adj track bar nut.. welded it, no problems since... also all new exhaust and other fun expenses related to severe death wobble
03-23-2013 07:45 PM
Patrick H Pull the springs and jack the axle up to full bump. I'd bet the track bar hits the diff cover. I see you do have bump stop extensions, but not sure they're enough.
Also not sure about your death wobble, but I'd bet that dropped pitman arm along with stock track bar mounting locations are causing bump steer.
03-23-2013 07:33 PM
invmgmt
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
Are you certain? It doesn't appear to be that close to the diff cover.
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